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Can the Celtics waive their protection on the Laker pick?
« on: April 12, 2018, 10:37:54 PM »

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Just in case a big they want is available where the Lakers pick.
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Re: Can the Celtics waive their protection on the Lakerpick
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2018, 10:50:01 PM »

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No.  I think it is allowed to make changes to the protection but both teams would have to agree to it. 

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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2018, 10:56:24 PM »

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No.  I think it is allowed to make changes to the protection but both teams would have to agree to it.

Lakers ain't agreeing to anything the Celtics want LOL.

Either we really luck out with the pick conveying at 2-3, or we move on to Sacramento Kings.

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No.  I think it is allowed to make changes to the protection but both teams would have to agree to it.

Lakers ain't agreeing to anything the Celtics want LOL.

Either we really luck out with the pick conveying at 2-3, or we move on to Sacramento Kings.

The Lakers donít have any rights to the pick. Any modification would be between Boston and Philly.


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Re: Can the Celtics waive their protection on the Laker pick?
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2018, 11:56:34 PM »

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Sure, if the Sixers agreed. In which case they would keep Sac 2019 pick. Doubt they would agree though. Interesting question.

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Sure, if the Sixers agreed. In which case they would keep Sac 2019 pick. Doubt they would agree though. Interesting question.

This is actually very interesting.  I didn't know that teams could alter the protection after finalizing a trade.  I guess the question is which pick is more valuable? 

The tank race was crowded this year, who knows if it will be quite this crazy next year.  Hard to see Sac improving a lot over the next year.  The griz pick in 2019 might be as good as the sac pick too.

There are a whole lot of variables with these upcoming picks.  It is really hard to know which picks to hang onto. 

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Sure, if the Sixers agreed. In which case they would keep Sac 2019 pick. Doubt they would agree though. Interesting question.

This is actually very interesting.  I didn't know that teams could alter the protection after finalizing a trade.  I guess the question is which pick is more valuable? 

The tank race was crowded this year, who knows if it will be quite this crazy next year.  Hard to see Sac improving a lot over the next year.  The griz pick in 2019 might be as good as the sac pick too.

There are a whole lot of variables with these upcoming picks.  It is really hard to know which picks to hang onto.

Forgot we still have the Grizzlies' pick. Although it's 1-8 protected. And we also have Clippers' pick too. Wow we definitely mortgaged the future.

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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2018, 12:35:38 AM »

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I would think that the Celtics should be able to waive the protection since it appears to have been placed for their benefit. The team with the protection should retain the option to waive it.....bad negotiating if Cs did not get that option. The 2-5 window may prove too tight in a loaded draft.

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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2018, 12:49:03 AM »

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I would think that the Celtics should be able to waive the protection since it appears to have been placed for their benefit. The team with the protection should retain the option to waive it.....bad negotiating if Cs did not get that option. The 2-5 window may prove too tight in a loaded draft.
I honestly think I'd rather wait on the Kings pick than select 10th in this draft.

This draft is said to be top-heavy and the top is gone by 10.
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Re: Can the Celtics waive their protection on the Laker pick?
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2018, 12:51:26 AM »

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I would think that the Celtics should be able to waive the protection since it appears to have been placed for their benefit. The team with the protection should retain the option to waive it.....bad negotiating if Cs did not get that option. The 2-5 window may prove too tight in a loaded draft.
I honestly think I'd rather wait on the Kings pick than select 10th in this draft.

This draft is said to be top-heavy and the top is gone by 10.

What if the laker pick is 6 0r 7?

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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2018, 01:18:15 AM »

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I would think that the Celtics should be able to waive the protection since it appears to have been placed for their benefit. The team with the protection should retain the option to waive it.....bad negotiating if Cs did not get that option. The 2-5 window may prove too tight in a loaded draft.
I honestly think I'd rather wait on the Kings pick than select 10th in this draft.

This draft is said to be top-heavy and the top is gone by 10.

What if the laker pick is 6 0r 7?
Not possible.

Lotto only determines picks 1-3.

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Almost positive that once terms of a trade have been submitted to the league office, the terms are final and complete. The only way the C's could change the terms of the trade would be to create another trade that changes the terms of the first trade.

So Boston and Philly would have to complete a trade where if the Lakers pick doesn't convey to Boston based on the terms of the original trade, the pick would convey to Boston no matter where the pick lands in exchange for....

What that exchange is would be important. My guess is it wouldn't be for just swapping the 2018 conveyance for the 2019 Sac. conveyance. Gotta remember, the Sixers could still end up with the 1st pick this year and the first pick next year. Gonna take a lot to have them give up that chance for the Cs to get the LA pick this year.

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I would be livid if the Celtics gave up their kings pick to pick 10th this year

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I know it's different, but the Blazers agreed to take the 2017 Cavs 1st instead of the 2018 one so that the Cavs could send their 2019 1st to Atlanta in the Korver trade.

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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2018, 02:10:33 AM »

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Of course they could. Itís called trading our Kings pick to Philly for their Lakers pick. Nothing stopping that if Philly wanted the deal.