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Why can't we us Tatum the way Philly uses Simmons?
« on: April 09, 2018, 11:21:21 AM »

Offline __ramonezy__

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Seeing the dominance of larger ball handlers, such as Lebron and Simmons, I'm wondering why isn't Tatum used in a similar fashion... even in spells.

Is there an aspect of his game that needs development? Through my eyes he has the handles, driving ability, shot... am I missing something.

Re: Why can't we us Tatum the way Philly uses Simmons?
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2018, 11:31:18 AM »

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Because Tatum doesnt even have 1/4th the court vision that Simmons has.

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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2018, 11:37:45 AM »

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i guess , IF tatum actually wants to be a point guard.  this might not be how he envisions himself , just as Al doesn't envision himself as a center .

Bron wants ...repeats....wants to,control everything , he wants to decide every play , who scores when .  He wants to control the game ....like Great guards .....Rondo or Magic Johnson .....or Lebron.

Simmons is a Magic Johnson build clone , an athletic center who sees himself as guard .  Simmons also has the more alpha traits to BE THE decision maker on the court.  High court IQ.

Tatum has the skills and IQ ....but may not want to,play that role or see himself like those two you mention.   Thats a special personality. Simmons always knew he was better than everybody else.  In college too.

I see Tatum s game growing to a KD type game .  He seems more like KD in his style and

team player.    Scorer first ..passer second , deceptive defensive player .  Hope he grows another inch or two.

Re: Why can't we us Tatum the way Philly uses Simmons?
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He isn't good enough in those skills to do that.
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Re: Why can't we us Tatum the way Philly uses Simmons?
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2018, 12:27:40 PM »

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Because Tatum doesnt even have 1/4th the court vision that Simmons has.

This got me thinking. Is there a larger gap between Tatum and Simmons shooting, or between their ability as a playmaker. Just as you wouldn't consider Tatum a playmaker, Simmons won't even try to shoot the ball.

Note, I'm not saying which is an easier skill to develop (shooting is easier.) I'm just curious about the difference between their current skillsets.
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I think Tatum could be taught some playmaking. I have a feeling he will spend one or more of his off seasons building that point forward skill set. He already has the ball handling ability. If he can just get the Xs and Os, there’s no reason he can’t bring the ball up and play point for spot minutes

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Jayson's a wing, Simmons is a point guard in a 6'10'' body.
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2018, 01:12:29 PM »

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Like others have pointed out...different mindset / different skillset.


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Because Tatum doesnt even have 1/4th the court vision that Simmons has.

I think this is an incomplete yet sufficient answer. TP.

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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2018, 03:07:46 PM »

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It’s a very specialized, unique skill set.  Tatum can improve as a playmaker, but he’s not going to be in the 7+ assists per game category.


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Could magic play like bird and bird play like magic?

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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2018, 03:22:30 PM »

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Could magic play like bird and bird play like magic?

TP .....there ya go

not all 6 -10 guys are wired and built the same.

simmons is a monster sized dude. .....super sized Rondo

boston needs shooters .....too many fancy passers and it turns in Harlem Globtrotters .   

we got Irving ,   we need the shooting wing who can create like PP did or KD .....a guy who can find a way to make a bucket on his own against the best .  Tatum will make Irving unguardable ....can't leave either alone for a sec ....or you get scored on .
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And why can't Simmons play like Tatum like hitting 3's?

Because he can't shoot!!

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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2018, 11:35:22 PM »

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This is like Asking why Magic wasn't as dominant as Kobe... Oh, wait... Nevermind...

Side note..  Is it just me or do folks have a hard time appreciating what We actually have..


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Tatum was actually a point forward in high school.  I’m sure he has the skills necessary to be a point forward at times but he doesn’t really need to and probably isn’t ready to do so at he NBA level full time.