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Re: First Impressions of 2018 draft class
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2018, 01:51:50 PM »

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Re: First Impressions of 2018 draft class
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2018, 07:43:27 PM »

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Having trouble copying the embedded YouTube link, but here's the potential unicorn, at least according to ESPN...


Potential unicorn developing in France
Victor Wembanyama | 6-10, 7-7 wingspan | PF/C

play
1:05
Scouting Victor WembanyamaThe French prospect is becoming one of Europe's most interesting long-term prospects.
The 2004-born French big man is gaining steam as one of the top long-term prospects in all of Europe. Most American prospects don't surface in scouting circles until age 15 or 16, but with the number of clubs and agents in Europe, the top players are generally identified much earlier with many turning pro as teenagers. Competing with his home club of Nanterre in the under-15 Lions Cup, Wembanyama showed his incredible physical upside and talent level for his age.

Wembanyama has massive hands, size 19.5 shoes, toothpick thighs and an incredible reach. For reference, Rudy Gobert was 6 inches shorter and playing on the wing when he was Wembanyama's age. While there have been plenty of young prospects with freakish measurements, it's Wembanyama skill level combined with his unique physical profile that makes him so intriguing. He shoots an easy 3-ball with soft touch, steps into midrange jumpers or floaters off the dribble, has a fairly advanced handle for his size and can pass with either hand, playing unselfishly. Despite his lack of lower-body strength, he's coordinated and competitive, protecting the rim impressively with sharp timing when fully engaged. Wembanyama's long-term success will depend on staying healthy and maintaining a strong physical regimen, as he's nowhere near his peak athletically. His development can shoot in a variety of directions, as he's skilled enough to trend toward a stretch big, long enough to become a lob-catcher/shot-blocker and talented enough with the ball to become a point-center type.

Highly touted, young prospects fail to live up to lofty expectations every year, but Wembanyama's background and support system makes us more comfortable even discussing him as a prospect at this age. His mother was described as the "Kendrick Perkins of women's basketball in France" for her tough mentality as a 6-3 big. Wembanyama's father was an accomplished long jumper, and his sister a champion basketball player on France's under-16 national team. His family is said to have a great grasp of the importance of developing him slowly.

Wembanyama played with Barcelona on loan at the 2018 Minicopa in Spain but long-term will stay with Nanterre. Next season he'll play in the France under-18 league while practicing with the under-21 team.

Mike
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Re: First Impressions of 2018 draft class
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2018, 08:26:13 PM »

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The Jaren Jackson comparison was funny because you said 3 good things about him 1st, that he was "solid, strong, decent shot blocker". But then you roasted him with the PJ Brown comp.

I like Jackson a lot. I think he will be like Serge Ibaka, and be a great role player. But I don't think he has much star potential, so I have a hard time seeing him go super high. But he can still be a very versatile and valuable asset for a team.
That's what I meant re: Jackson, solid, but not spectacular.  PJ played 15 years in the league and was a starter from day 1.  There's always a rush to anoint every lotto pick as some former All-star.  That's not how it works.  PJ Brown is a compliment.

PJ was 24 his first year in the league, after being 29th pick in the second round. Nobody saw a high ceiling player. He averaged 9 points and eight rebounds for his career, on low efficiency. His second year in the league, he scored 8pg and grabbed 6rpg.  If somebody spends a high lottery pick for that production, I guarantee they’ll be disappointed.

PJ in his prime was a great defender and perennial all-defensive team. Think of him as Ibaka type player. That's still pretty good player regardless of the spot he was picked.

Re: First Impressions of 2018 draft class
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2018, 08:31:53 PM »

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For this draft class the top prizes are Ayton, Bamba, Young, and a sleeper in Gary Trent Jr.  I'm not sold on Bagley as a pro.  I think of all the Dukies Trent Jr. has the game that best translates to the NBA.  Ayton can be a franchise cornerstone.  And Bamba COULD become the next Dikembe. 

Re: First Impressions of 2018 draft class
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2018, 09:02:31 PM »

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Blah
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: First Impressions of 2018 draft class
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2018, 11:16:45 PM »

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You're completely missing the boat on Doncic. I got him and Bagley as the two best players in this draft.
right on about doncic. he is going to be a very good nba player. i wish the celtics could get hold of him.
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Re: First Impressions of 2018 draft class
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Having trouble copying the embedded YouTube link, but here's the potential unicorn, at least according to ESPN...


Potential unicorn developing in France
Victor Wembanyama | 6-10, 7-7 wingspan | PF/C

play
1:05
Scouting Victor WembanyamaThe French prospect is becoming one of Europe's most interesting long-term prospects.
The 2004-born French big man is gaining steam as one of the top long-term prospects in all of Europe. Most American prospects don't surface in scouting circles until age 15 or 16, but with the number of clubs and agents in Europe, the top players are generally identified much earlier with many turning pro as teenagers. Competing with his home club of Nanterre in the under-15 Lions Cup, Wembanyama showed his incredible physical upside and talent level for his age.

Wembanyama has massive hands, size 19.5 shoes, toothpick thighs and an incredible reach. For reference, Rudy Gobert was 6 inches shorter and playing on the wing when he was Wembanyama's age. While there have been plenty of young prospects with freakish measurements, it's Wembanyama skill level combined with his unique physical profile that makes him so intriguing. He shoots an easy 3-ball with soft touch, steps into midrange jumpers or floaters off the dribble, has a fairly advanced handle for his size and can pass with either hand, playing unselfishly. Despite his lack of lower-body strength, he's coordinated and competitive, protecting the rim impressively with sharp timing when fully engaged. Wembanyama's long-term success will depend on staying healthy and maintaining a strong physical regimen, as he's nowhere near his peak athletically. His development can shoot in a variety of directions, as he's skilled enough to trend toward a stretch big, long enough to become a lob-catcher/shot-blocker and talented enough with the ball to become a point-center type.

Highly touted, young prospects fail to live up to lofty expectations every year, but Wembanyama's background and support system makes us more comfortable even discussing him as a prospect at this age. His mother was described as the "Kendrick Perkins of women's basketball in France" for her tough mentality as a 6-3 big. Wembanyama's father was an accomplished long jumper, and his sister a champion basketball player on France's under-16 national team. His family is said to have a great grasp of the importance of developing him slowly.

Wembanyama played with Barcelona on loan at the 2018 Minicopa in Spain but long-term will stay with Nanterre. Next season he'll play in the France under-18 league while practicing with the under-21 team.

Mike

here are a couple of brief videos on wembanyama...

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Wembanyama
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Re: First Impressions of 2018 draft class
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2018, 12:59:26 AM »

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Having trouble copying the embedded YouTube link, but here's the potential unicorn, at least according to ESPN...


Potential unicorn developing in France
Victor Wembanyama | 6-10, 7-7 wingspan | PF/C

play
1:05
Scouting Victor WembanyamaThe French prospect is becoming one of Europe's most interesting long-term prospects.
The 2004-born French big man is gaining steam as one of the top long-term prospects in all of Europe. Most American prospects don't surface in scouting circles until age 15 or 16, but with the number of clubs and agents in Europe, the top players are generally identified much earlier with many turning pro as teenagers. Competing with his home club of Nanterre in the under-15 Lions Cup, Wembanyama showed his incredible physical upside and talent level for his age.

Wembanyama has massive hands, size 19.5 shoes, toothpick thighs and an incredible reach. For reference, Rudy Gobert was 6 inches shorter and playing on the wing when he was Wembanyama's age. While there have been plenty of young prospects with freakish measurements, it's Wembanyama skill level combined with his unique physical profile that makes him so intriguing. He shoots an easy 3-ball with soft touch, steps into midrange jumpers or floaters off the dribble, has a fairly advanced handle for his size and can pass with either hand, playing unselfishly. Despite his lack of lower-body strength, he's coordinated and competitive, protecting the rim impressively with sharp timing when fully engaged. Wembanyama's long-term success will depend on staying healthy and maintaining a strong physical regimen, as he's nowhere near his peak athletically. His development can shoot in a variety of directions, as he's skilled enough to trend toward a stretch big, long enough to become a lob-catcher/shot-blocker and talented enough with the ball to become a point-center type.

Highly touted, young prospects fail to live up to lofty expectations every year, but Wembanyama's background and support system makes us more comfortable even discussing him as a prospect at this age. His mother was described as the "Kendrick Perkins of women's basketball in France" for her tough mentality as a 6-3 big. Wembanyama's father was an accomplished long jumper, and his sister a champion basketball player on France's under-16 national team. His family is said to have a great grasp of the importance of developing him slowly.

Wembanyama played with Barcelona on loan at the 2018 Minicopa in Spain but long-term will stay with Nanterre. Next season he'll play in the France under-18 league while practicing with the under-21 team.

Mike

here are a couple of brief videos on wembanyama...

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Wembanyama

TP thanks Mike