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Re: Welp... Ante Zizic Looks Good
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2018, 07:30:42 PM »

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Re: Welp... Ante Zizic Looks Good
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2018, 07:45:20 PM »

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He's getting torched literally every time he switches on the PnR.

Not a good sign in the modern NBA if you're that slow and have no impressive offensive game to offset it

Re: Welp... Ante Zizic Looks Good
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2018, 07:46:35 PM »

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He's getting torched literally every time he switches on the PnR.

Not a good sign in the modern NBA if you're that slow and have no impressive offensive game to offset it

Yeah he doesn't look like an NBA player this game. Overall it seems like this thread will age badly.

Re: Welp... Ante Zizic Looks Good
« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2018, 11:51:24 AM »

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He's getting torched literally every time he switches on the PnR.

Not a good sign in the modern NBA if you're that slow and have no impressive offensive game to offset it

Yeah he doesn't look like an NBA player this game. Overall it seems like this thread will age badly.

I just said "he looks good" not "he's going to become a superstar soon"  :P
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Re: Welp... Ante Zizic Looks Good
« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2018, 12:20:03 PM »

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He fits in perfectly in Cleveland because his defense is just awful. His footwork is terrible and can easily be taken off a PnR. He almost just lets it happen.

I think he's very raw ala Yabu but when has someone "raw" ever turned it into anything other than being a high energy guy off the bench? Tyler Zeller if he gets a mid range jumper at some point.

Why do we as CBers get so hyped on fringe NBA players?



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Re: Welp... Ante Zizic Looks Good
« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2018, 12:28:26 PM »

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He fits in perfectly in Cleveland because his defense is just awful. His footwork is terrible and can easily be taken off a PnR. He almost just lets it happen.

I think he's very raw ala Yabu but when has someone "raw" ever turned it into anything other than being a high energy guy off the bench? Tyler Zeller if he gets a mid range jumper at some point.

Why do we as CBers get so hyped on fringe NBA players?

Depends on the level of athleticism for a “raw” guy. For a guy like DeAndre Jordan, they can grow into all stars. For a guy with Zizic’s athleticism, I’d say you pretty much hit the nail on the head.
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Re: Welp... Ante Zizic Looks Good
« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2018, 01:33:23 PM »

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Someday he may actually be a useful NBA rotation player.

Re: Welp... Ante Zizic Looks Good
« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2018, 05:04:20 PM »

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Slow big men that can't stretch the floor do 2 things in the NBA right now.  They plug up your offense and get your team destroyed on the perimeter on defense against the good teams.

Re: Welp... Ante Zizic Looks Good
« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2018, 08:04:39 PM »

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Slow big men that can't stretch the floor do 2 things in the NBA right now.  They plug up your offense and get your team destroyed on the perimeter on defense against the good teams.

Yeah, you just can't win with guys like that starting at center anymore ... oh wait.

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Zaza Pachulia
Jonas Valanciunas
Aron Baynes
Jusuf Nurkic
Steven Adams

Those are the starting centers on the 6 teams with the best records in the NBA right now.

I don't believe the whole lot of them have combined to shoot even one single 3PT shot all year.
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Re: Welp... Ante Zizic Looks Good
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2018, 09:28:35 PM »

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Someday he may actually be a useful NBA rotation player.
Slow big men that can't stretch the floor do 2 things in the NBA right now.  They plug up your offense and get your team destroyed on the perimeter on defense against the good teams.

Yeah, you just can't win with guys like that starting at center anymore ... oh wait.

Clint Capela
Zaza Pachulia
Jonas Valanciunas
Aron Baynes
Jusuf Nurkic
Steven Adams

Those are the starting centers on the 6 teams with the best records in the NBA right now.

I don't believe the whole lot of them have combined to shoot even one single 3PT shot all year.

All of the guys listed with the exception of Zaza have quickness and/or athletic advantages over Zizic though.
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Re: Welp... Ante Zizic Looks Good
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2018, 09:57:47 PM »

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Slow big men that can't stretch the floor do 2 things in the NBA right now.  They plug up your offense and get your team destroyed on the perimeter on defense against the good teams.

Yeah, you just can't win with guys like that starting at center anymore ... oh wait.

Clint Capela
Zaza Pachulia
Jonas Valanciunas
Aron Baynes
Jusuf Nurkic
Steven Adams

Those are the starting centers on the 6 teams with the best records in the NBA right now.

I don't believe the whole lot of them have combined to shoot even one single 3PT shot all year.

While your point remains, Valanciunas is actually shooting 44% from deep on about a shot per game.  He has that shot in his game and should probably shoot it more than he does.

Re: Welp... Ante Zizic Looks Good
« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2018, 10:14:15 PM »

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Slow big men that can't stretch the floor do 2 things in the NBA right now.  They plug up your offense and get your team destroyed on the perimeter on defense against the good teams.

Yeah, you just can't win with guys like that starting at center anymore ... oh wait.

Clint Capela
Zaza Pachulia
Jonas Valanciunas
Aron Baynes
Jusuf Nurkic
Steven Adams

Those are the starting centers on the 6 teams with the best records in the NBA right now.

I don't believe the whole lot of them have combined to shoot even one single 3PT shot all year.
What does shooting the 3 have to do with this? Zizic can't shoot OR play defense. He is absolutely horrible at defending the pick and roll. He was getting exposed every play against the Lakers by IT and Randle pick and rolls. Add in the fact that he can't do much on offense and that makes him worse than all these centers. Just because they can't shoot either doesn't mean that makes Zizic as good as them.
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Re: Welp... Ante Zizic Looks Good
« Reply #42 on: March 23, 2018, 12:43:10 AM »

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Slow big men that can't stretch the floor do 2 things in the NBA right now.  They plug up your offense and get your team destroyed on the perimeter on defense against the good teams.

Yeah, you just can't win with guys like that starting at center anymore ... oh wait.

Clint Capela
Zaza Pachulia
Jonas Valanciunas
Aron Baynes
Jusuf Nurkic
Steven Adams

Those are the starting centers on the 6 teams with the best records in the NBA right now.

I don't believe the whole lot of them have combined to shoot even one single 3PT shot all year.
All these center's besides Pachulia have at least one good skill.

Capela is an elite rebounder and rim protector
Valanciunas is a very strong rebounder and good scorer
Baynes is a good defender and rebounder
Nurkic is a good rebounder, passer and scorer
Adams is one of the best offensive rebounders in the league and is a solid scorer.

Zizic has worse physical profiles than all these guys besides Zaza, and is less skilled than all of them too. Even with Zaza, it's just a tad dishonest when he starts next to two MVP's, one DPOY and a 3&D All-Star.

Re: Welp... Ante Zizic Looks Good
« Reply #43 on: March 23, 2018, 03:03:38 AM »

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Re: Welp... Ante Zizic Looks Good
« Reply #44 on: March 23, 2018, 06:14:24 AM »

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The hype machine, for Zizic was ridiculous here, at least he was part of the package that got us Kyrie.  Funny how a guy with no hope like Daniel Theis is a way better player than all the hyped guys.