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Re: More Trump White House Staff Leaving
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2018, 01:40:45 PM »

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Not only was Tillerson fired (via Trump tweet (because Trump can't actually take any responsibility and inform anyone in person) but also fired was Steve Goldstein, the State Department Under Secretary.  Goldstein was reportedly fired for disputing the timeline for how Tillerson was fired.  What an administration, what a president. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-fires-top-tillerson-deputy-in-state-department-shake-up/

It is also a strange coincidence that yesterday Tillerson calls out Russia for the nerve gas attempted murder of Sergei Skripal.  Next day Trump fires Tillerson.

Yeah, normally with a sequence like that I'd say it's silly to attribute the firing to the comments because a major move like that would've been in the works for weeks, and that it's more likely the comments were enabled by knowing the ax was going to drop soon than the other way around.

But with this administration...there've been rumors Tillerson was going down for a while, especially after calling Trump a moron. But the final decision appears to have been a snap one, and it's plausible taking a stronger stance against Russia than the White House is willing to was the final straw.

It'll be very interesting to see how Pompeo is willing to characterize the use of a military nerve agent for assassination purposes inside our closest ally's borders. I wish I had confidence that our government was more on the UK's side than Putin's, especially after such a blatant attack, but that doesn't really seem to be the case any more.

Yeah, no one probably knows at this point if Tillerson's statement about the russian nerve gas was the reason why he finally got the ax.  I am just saying it is a interesting coincidence.  So he didn't fire Tillerson after he called him a *blanking* moron, but he does now.  It is interesting. 

It is sick that we aren't standing completely beside the UK.  But that comes directly from Trump.

Re: More Trump White House Staff Leaving
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2018, 01:43:15 PM »

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I think the plan is for Trump to fire or get everyone to resign so that he can then fire Sessions to end the Comey investigation, and it won't look unusual since he cleaned house already.

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« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2018, 01:44:00 PM »

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Not only was Tillerson fired (via Trump tweet (because Trump can't actually take any responsibility and inform anyone in person) but also fired was Steve Goldstein, the State Department Under Secretary.  Goldstein was reportedly fired for disputing the timeline for how Tillerson was fired.  What an administration, what a president. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-fires-top-tillerson-deputy-in-state-department-shake-up/

It is also a strange coincidence that yesterday Tillerson calls out Russia for the nerve gas attempted murder of Sergei Skripal.  Next day Trump fires Tillerson.

Yeah, normally with a sequence like that I'd say it's silly to attribute the firing to the comments because a major move like that would've been in the works for weeks, and that it's more likely the comments were enabled by knowing the ax was going to drop soon than the other way around.

But with this administration...there've been rumors Tillerson was going down for a while, especially after calling Trump a moron. But the final decision appears to have been a snap one, and it's plausible taking a stronger stance against Russia than the White House is willing to was the final straw.

It'll be very interesting to see how Pompeo is willing to characterize the use of a military nerve agent for assassination purposes inside our closest ally's borders. I wish I had confidence that our government was more on the UK's side than Putin's, especially after such a blatant attack, but that doesn't really seem to be the case any more.

Yeah, no one probably knows at this point if Tillerson's statement about the russian nerve gas was the reason why he finally got the ax.  I am just saying it is a interesting coincidence.  So he didn't fire Tillerson after he called him a *blanking* moron, but he does now.  It is interesting. 

It is sick that we aren't standing completely beside the UK.  But that comes directly from Trump.

I think there’s a lot more to it than the Russian comments. I mean, Nikki Haley said this yesterday:

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The Russian and Syrian regimes label anyone as terrorists who resist their absolute control. In the eyes of Russia, Iran, and Assad, the neighborhoods of eastern Ghouta are full of ‘terrorists.’ The hospitals are full of ‘terrorists.’ The schools are full of ‘terrorists.’”


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Re: More Trump White House Staff Leaving
« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2018, 02:25:01 PM »

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Not only was Tillerson fired (via Trump tweet (because Trump can't actually take any responsibility and inform anyone in person) but also fired was Steve Goldstein, the State Department Under Secretary.  Goldstein was reportedly fired for disputing the timeline for how Tillerson was fired.  What an administration, what a president. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-fires-top-tillerson-deputy-in-state-department-shake-up/

It is also a strange coincidence that yesterday Tillerson calls out Russia for the nerve gas attempted murder of Sergei Skripal.  Next day Trump fires Tillerson.

Yeah, normally with a sequence like that I'd say it's silly to attribute the firing to the comments because a major move like that would've been in the works for weeks, and that it's more likely the comments were enabled by knowing the ax was going to drop soon than the other way around.

But with this administration...there've been rumors Tillerson was going down for a while, especially after calling Trump a moron. But the final decision appears to have been a snap one, and it's plausible taking a stronger stance against Russia than the White House is willing to was the final straw.

It'll be very interesting to see how Pompeo is willing to characterize the use of a military nerve agent for assassination purposes inside our closest ally's borders. I wish I had confidence that our government was more on the UK's side than Putin's, especially after such a blatant attack, but that doesn't really seem to be the case any more.

Yeah, no one probably knows at this point if Tillerson's statement about the russian nerve gas was the reason why he finally got the ax.  I am just saying it is a interesting coincidence.  So he didn't fire Tillerson after he called him a *blanking* moron, but he does now.  It is interesting. 

It is sick that we aren't standing completely beside the UK.  But that comes directly from Trump.

I think there’s a lot more to it than the Russian comments. I mean, Nikki Haley said this yesterday:

Quote
The Russian and Syrian regimes label anyone as terrorists who resist their absolute control. In the eyes of Russia, Iran, and Assad, the neighborhoods of eastern Ghouta are full of ‘terrorists.’ The hospitals are full of ‘terrorists.’ The schools are full of ‘terrorists.’”

I don't get the connection.  I mean Haley has been tougher on Russia than Trump as well. 

Re: More Trump White House Staff Leaving
« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2018, 02:37:49 PM »

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Not only was Tillerson fired (via Trump tweet (because Trump can't actually take any responsibility and inform anyone in person) but also fired was Steve Goldstein, the State Department Under Secretary.  Goldstein was reportedly fired for disputing the timeline for how Tillerson was fired.  What an administration, what a president. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-fires-top-tillerson-deputy-in-state-department-shake-up/

It is also a strange coincidence that yesterday Tillerson calls out Russia for the nerve gas attempted murder of Sergei Skripal.  Next day Trump fires Tillerson.

Yeah, normally with a sequence like that I'd say it's silly to attribute the firing to the comments because a major move like that would've been in the works for weeks, and that it's more likely the comments were enabled by knowing the ax was going to drop soon than the other way around.

But with this administration...there've been rumors Tillerson was going down for a while, especially after calling Trump a moron. But the final decision appears to have been a snap one, and it's plausible taking a stronger stance against Russia than the White House is willing to was the final straw.

It'll be very interesting to see how Pompeo is willing to characterize the use of a military nerve agent for assassination purposes inside our closest ally's borders. I wish I had confidence that our government was more on the UK's side than Putin's, especially after such a blatant attack, but that doesn't really seem to be the case any more.

Yeah, no one probably knows at this point if Tillerson's statement about the russian nerve gas was the reason why he finally got the ax.  I am just saying it is a interesting coincidence.  So he didn't fire Tillerson after he called him a *blanking* moron, but he does now.  It is interesting. 

It is sick that we aren't standing completely beside the UK.  But that comes directly from Trump.

I think there’s a lot more to it than the Russian comments. I mean, Nikki Haley said this yesterday:

Quote
The Russian and Syrian regimes label anyone as terrorists who resist their absolute control. In the eyes of Russia, Iran, and Assad, the neighborhoods of eastern Ghouta are full of ‘terrorists.’ The hospitals are full of ‘terrorists.’ The schools are full of ‘terrorists.’”

I don't get the connection.  I mean Haley has been tougher on Russia than Trump as well.

If Trump is firing people because they’re tough on Russia, he would have fired Haley long ago.


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Re: More Trump White House Staff Leaving
« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2018, 02:42:36 PM »

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Interesting. In Tillerson's live comments today after his firing, he made a strong point to criticize Russia.

He also stated he was making a concerted effort to address sexual harassment in the department. I put my money on that being the major issue him and Trump differed on.
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Re: More Trump White House Staff Leaving
« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2018, 02:49:54 PM »

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Not only was Tillerson fired (via Trump tweet (because Trump can't actually take any responsibility and inform anyone in person) but also fired was Steve Goldstein, the State Department Under Secretary.  Goldstein was reportedly fired for disputing the timeline for how Tillerson was fired.  What an administration, what a president. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-fires-top-tillerson-deputy-in-state-department-shake-up/

It is also a strange coincidence that yesterday Tillerson calls out Russia for the nerve gas attempted murder of Sergei Skripal.  Next day Trump fires Tillerson.

Yeah, normally with a sequence like that I'd say it's silly to attribute the firing to the comments because a major move like that would've been in the works for weeks, and that it's more likely the comments were enabled by knowing the ax was going to drop soon than the other way around.

But with this administration...there've been rumors Tillerson was going down for a while, especially after calling Trump a moron. But the final decision appears to have been a snap one, and it's plausible taking a stronger stance against Russia than the White House is willing to was the final straw.

It'll be very interesting to see how Pompeo is willing to characterize the use of a military nerve agent for assassination purposes inside our closest ally's borders. I wish I had confidence that our government was more on the UK's side than Putin's, especially after such a blatant attack, but that doesn't really seem to be the case any more.

Yeah, no one probably knows at this point if Tillerson's statement about the russian nerve gas was the reason why he finally got the ax.  I am just saying it is a interesting coincidence.  So he didn't fire Tillerson after he called him a *blanking* moron, but he does now.  It is interesting. 

It is sick that we aren't standing completely beside the UK.  But that comes directly from Trump.

I think there’s a lot more to it than the Russian comments. I mean, Nikki Haley said this yesterday:

Quote
The Russian and Syrian regimes label anyone as terrorists who resist their absolute control. In the eyes of Russia, Iran, and Assad, the neighborhoods of eastern Ghouta are full of ‘terrorists.’ The hospitals are full of ‘terrorists.’ The schools are full of ‘terrorists.’”

I don't get the connection.  I mean Haley has been tougher on Russia than Trump as well.

If Trump is firing people because they’re tough on Russia, he would have fired Haley long ago.

I never said he was only firing people who are tough on Russia.  I just said it might have been the final straw.  I don't think every decision Trump makes is based on the Russia investigation, he is way too random, undisciplined and incompetent to have any one explanation for his actions.

Re: More Trump White House Staff Leaving
« Reply #37 on: March 13, 2018, 11:06:19 PM »

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just in case you can't keep track of depatures from the white house, this article may bring you up to speed.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/03/fired-recap-official-turnover-trump-180313160447342.html
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Re: More Trump White House Staff Leaving
« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2018, 11:19:41 PM »

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Also lost in the crap storm that is the Trump presidency was this nugget:

Johnny McEntee, Trump's long time personal aide was fired because he was under investigation by Homeland Security for serious financial crimes.  If that wasn't bad enough, as soon as he was fired, he was re-HIRED by the 2020 Trump Campaign.  So he was fired because he was in serious trouble, so lets hire him back for the campaign. 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/13/politics/john-mcentee-white-house-security-clearance/index.html
That is some serious swamp draining right there...MAGA! 

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Re: More Trump White House Staff Leaving
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2018, 12:18:10 PM »

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OK....now with the Russia probe....the LEAD attorney resigns.....
https://www.apnews.com/b563c766aae74dba9a658ee3bffc7896/Lead-Trump-lawyer-in-Russia-probe-leaves-in-legal-shake-up

seems like there's a serious conflict of interest. Any thoughts on why this guy resigns NOW?

I'd love to see how the Right spins this one.

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« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2018, 02:49:52 PM »

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OK....now with the Russia probe....the LEAD attorney resigns.....
https://www.apnews.com/b563c766aae74dba9a658ee3bffc7896/Lead-Trump-lawyer-in-Russia-probe-leaves-in-legal-shake-up

seems like there's a serious conflict of interest. Any thoughts on why this guy resigns NOW?

I'd love to see how the Right spins this one.

How is there a conflict of interest?

I think this is probably as simple as a lawyer with a stubborn, ignorant client who won’t listen to advice.


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Re: More Trump White House Staff Leaving
« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2018, 02:55:05 PM »

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OK....now with the Russia probe....the LEAD attorney resigns.....
https://www.apnews.com/b563c766aae74dba9a658ee3bffc7896/Lead-Trump-lawyer-in-Russia-probe-leaves-in-legal-shake-up

seems like there's a serious conflict of interest. Any thoughts on why this guy resigns NOW?

I'd love to see how the Right spins this one.

How is there a conflict of interest?

I think this is probably as simple as a lawyer with a stubborn, ignorant client who won’t listen to advice.
Pretty much the way I look at it.

Re: More Trump White House Staff Leaving
« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2018, 04:08:14 PM »

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OK....now with the Russia probe....the LEAD attorney resigns.....
https://www.apnews.com/b563c766aae74dba9a658ee3bffc7896/Lead-Trump-lawyer-in-Russia-probe-leaves-in-legal-shake-up

seems like there's a serious conflict of interest. Any thoughts on why this guy resigns NOW?

I'd love to see how the Right spins this one.

How is there a conflict of interest?

I think this is probably as simple as a lawyer with a stubborn, ignorant client who won’t listen to advice.
yes, and from what i also read, trump was bringing in a new attorney with a different approach to lead the defense. very understandable action of leaving by the legal counsel.

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« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2018, 06:47:12 PM »

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OK....now with the Russia probe....the LEAD attorney resigns.....
https://www.apnews.com/b563c766aae74dba9a658ee3bffc7896/Lead-Trump-lawyer-in-Russia-probe-leaves-in-legal-shake-up

seems like there's a serious conflict of interest. Any thoughts on why this guy resigns NOW?

I'd love to see how the Right spins this one.

How is there a conflict of interest?

I think this is probably as simple as a lawyer with a stubborn, ignorant client who won’t listen to advice.
yes, and from what i also read, trump was bringing in a new attorney with a different approach to lead the defense. very understandable action of leaving by the legal counsel.

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UPDATE: 4 defense attorneys at different large law firms have been approached to join Trump's legal defense team in recent weeks. All 4 turned him down.

Still, he'll be hiring only the best people.  We won't believe how good they'll be.

Re: More Trump White House Staff Leaving
« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2018, 06:49:31 PM »

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General McMaster is the latest to be shown the (revolving) door...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-replacing-mcmaster-bolton-223718289--politics.html
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