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Re: SI article on toxic Mavs workplace
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2018, 06:24:46 AM »

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This guy sounds so much like the vast majority of abusers Iíve met. 4 years of counseling, and he still blames his victims, while playing lip service to accountability.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/fired-mavs-com-writer-team-put-back-work-immediately-domestic-violence-arrest-214654941.html


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Re: SI article on toxic Mavs workplace
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2018, 09:30:25 AM »

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Re: SI article on toxic Mavs workplace
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2018, 10:50:36 AM »

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Apparently Mark Cuban was accused of sexual assault in 2011, but no charges were filed after a police investigation.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-mark-cuban-investigated-alleged-sexual-assault-2011-charges-never-filed-054514266.html


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Re: SI article on toxic Mavs workplace
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2018, 01:05:19 PM »

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Re: SI article on toxic Mavs workplace
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2018, 01:19:23 PM »

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https://sports.yahoo.com/ex-mavericks-employee-rips-mark-cubans-response-sexual-harassment-claims-164753777.html
Getting hot in all the right places. Mr. Smug is going down.

Hard to say, as of now there is no actual evidence Cuban is guilty of, or aware of, anything [dang]ing.

This isn't like the Sterling situation where they literally had the man on tape saying racist things. My guess is it will take that sort of evidence against Cuban to take him down.

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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2018, 05:04:12 PM »

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Maybe it's been mentioned in one of the several posted articles already, but one thing I find interesting with everything that's going on is Mark Cuban's comments back when the league was ousting Donald Sterling.

He was against ousting Sterling, said it was a slippery slope.  Maybe, just maybe, it was because Cuban had some skeletons of his own in the closet.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/10854381/mark-cuban-dallas-mavericks-rails-donald-sterling-not-favor-kicking-owner

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However, Cuban was the only one to express concern about the precedent that could be set by forcing Sterling to leave the league.

"I think there's a [league] constitution for a reason, right?" Cuban said before Game 4 of the Mavericks-San Antonio Spurs series. "Because this is a very slippery slope. What Donald said was wrong. It was abhorrent. There's no place for racism in the NBA, any business I'm associated with, and I don't want to be associated with people who have that position.

"But at the same time, that's a decision I make. I think you've got to be very, very careful when you start making blanket statements about what people say and think, as opposed to what they do. It's a very, very slippery slope.

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Cuban said he would support any decision the commissioner made in regard to disciplining Sterling, but Cuban thinks the league constitution will limit that to a fine and suspension.

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Cuban was concerned about an arbitrary line being set for forcing people out of the league because of controversial beliefs that could be considered offensive.

"In this country, people are allowed to be morons," Cuban said. "They're allowed to be stupid. They're allowed to think idiotic thoughts.

"Within an organization like the NBA, we try to do what's in the best interest of the league, and that's why we have a commissioner and a constitution, and I think Adam will be smart and deal with Donald with the full extent available. But, again, if you're saying a blanket, 'Let's kick him out' -- I don't want to go that far because it's not about Donald, it's not about his position, it's about his mess -- and what are we going to make a decision on?

Cuban added that it was "[dang] scary" to ponder the thought of attempting to remove somebody from the NBA because of his personal beliefs.

"In no uncertain terms am I supporting what Donald Sterling said, or his position," Cuban said. "He's obviously racist, he's obviously bigoted. And in this day and age when you're in the public eye, you've got to be [dang] careful -- if that's your position, and that's unfortunately where you're at, you better be [dang] careful what you say, even in the privacy of your own home.

"But regardless of your background, regardless of the history they have, if we're taking something somebody said in their home and we're trying to turn it into something that leads to you being forced to divest property in any way, shape or form, that's not the United States of America. I don't want to be part of that."

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Re: SI article on toxic Mavs workplace
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2018, 05:20:28 PM »

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Maybe it's been mentioned in one of the several posted articles already, but one thing I find interesting with everything that's going on is Mark Cuban's comments back when the league was ousting Donald Sterling.

He was against ousting Sterling, said it was a slippery slope.  Maybe, just maybe, it was because Cuban had some skeletons of his own in the closet.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/10854381/mark-cuban-dallas-mavericks-rails-donald-sterling-not-favor-kicking-owner

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However, Cuban was the only one to express concern about the precedent that could be set by forcing Sterling to leave the league.

"I think there's a [league] constitution for a reason, right?" Cuban said before Game 4 of the Mavericks-San Antonio Spurs series. "Because this is a very slippery slope. What Donald said was wrong. It was abhorrent. There's no place for racism in the NBA, any business I'm associated with, and I don't want to be associated with people who have that position.

"But at the same time, that's a decision I make. I think you've got to be very, very careful when you start making blanket statements about what people say and think, as opposed to what they do. It's a very, very slippery slope.

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Cuban said he would support any decision the commissioner made in regard to disciplining Sterling, but Cuban thinks the league constitution will limit that to a fine and suspension.

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Cuban was concerned about an arbitrary line being set for forcing people out of the league because of controversial beliefs that could be considered offensive.

"In this country, people are allowed to be morons," Cuban said. "They're allowed to be stupid. They're allowed to think idiotic thoughts.

"Within an organization like the NBA, we try to do what's in the best interest of the league, and that's why we have a commissioner and a constitution, and I think Adam will be smart and deal with Donald with the full extent available. But, again, if you're saying a blanket, 'Let's kick him out' -- I don't want to go that far because it's not about Donald, it's not about his position, it's about his mess -- and what are we going to make a decision on?

Cuban added that it was "[dang] scary" to ponder the thought of attempting to remove somebody from the NBA because of his personal beliefs.

"In no uncertain terms am I supporting what Donald Sterling said, or his position," Cuban said. "He's obviously racist, he's obviously bigoted. And in this day and age when you're in the public eye, you've got to be [dang] careful -- if that's your position, and that's unfortunately where you're at, you better be [dang] careful what you say, even in the privacy of your own home.

"But regardless of your background, regardless of the history they have, if we're taking something somebody said in their home and we're trying to turn it into something that leads to you being forced to divest property in any way, shape or form, that's not the United States of America. I don't want to be part of that."

What he says there actually does make a lot of sense though. Also, if the story out of Portland is an accurate one, you would have to imagine he has done this multiple times and other stories will come out and he will be gone. It's never seemed like the case where someone just does that behavior one time randomly and never does anything else bad.

Re: SI article on toxic Mavs workplace
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2018, 10:43:02 AM »

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Re: SI article on toxic Mavs workplace
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2018, 09:50:27 AM »

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/mavericks/2018/03/29/mark-cuban-mavericks-racial-discrimination-petition/471919002/
Looks like Mavs have another problem going on too. Cuban can't run a NBA team but he sure thinks he could make a great president.
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Re: SI article on toxic Mavs workplace
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2018, 10:41:19 AM »

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/mavericks/2018/03/29/mark-cuban-mavericks-racial-discrimination-petition/471919002/
Looks like Mavs have another problem going on too. Cuban can't run a NBA team but he sure thinks he could make a great president.

Don't know what to make of this one.  Seems a lot lighter on the details than the other articles/accusations.

An employee found a noose in a closet?  Was it on display, was it meant to be seen, was it lying on a shelf, was it actually a "noose" or just a rope or maybe a lasso (this is cow town afterall)?  It could have had racist intent or it could have been like the lady who saw a swastika in wrapping paper, seeing something that's not really there.

Sounds like the lady whose trying to bring the suit didn't actually even see the noose, because it was in a closet and Mark Cuban threw it in the trash, which to me sounds like a good thing to do, at least without any more context.


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Newsome was hired in 2004 as a premium sales executive. She went on to become a suite sales executive and said she generated $50 million in sales during her 13 years with the company.

Newsome said she complained throughout her time with the management company about racial discrimination, pay inequity, harassment, and bullying and taunting from her co-workers. She was fired in March 2017 in what she said was retaliation for a 2015 complaint she made to human resources.

There's so much that could be going on here.  Another article states she was fired for not meeting sales quota, which is pretty standard in the sales world, especially in leaner years like the Mavs are probably experiencing now.  So she could be the type of person that blames her failures on anybody but themselves, or she could have some legit gripes.  Need more details/context.

So not sure if this is the tip of the iceberg of some serious problems, or just a bitter ex-employee.

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Re: SI article on toxic Mavs workplace
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2018, 10:53:34 AM »

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/mavericks/2018/03/29/mark-cuban-mavericks-racial-discrimination-petition/471919002/
Looks like Mavs have another problem going on too. Cuban can't run a NBA team but he sure thinks he could make a great president.

Don't know what to make of this one.  Seems a lot lighter on the details than the other articles/accusations.

An employee found a noose in a closet?  Was it on display, was it meant to be seen, was it lying on a shelf, was it actually a "noose" or just a rope or maybe a lasso (this is cow town afterall)?  It could have had racist intent or it could have been like the lady who saw a swastika in wrapping paper, seeing something that's not really there.

Sounds like the lady whose trying to bring the suit didn't actually even see the noose, because it was in a closet and Mark Cuban threw it in the trash, which to me sounds like a good thing to do, at least without any more context.


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Newsome was hired in 2004 as a premium sales executive. She went on to become a suite sales executive and said she generated $50 million in sales during her 13 years with the company.

Newsome said she complained throughout her time with the management company about racial discrimination, pay inequity, harassment, and bullying and taunting from her co-workers. She was fired in March 2017 in what she said was retaliation for a 2015 complaint she made to human resources.

There's so much that could be going on here.  Another article states she was fired for not meeting sales quota, which is pretty standard in the sales world, especially in leaner years like the Mavs are probably experiencing now.  So she could be the type of person that blames her failures on anybody but themselves, or she could have some legit gripes.  Need more details/context.

So not sure if this is the tip of the iceberg of some serious problems, or just a bitter ex-employee.
It may be nothing, But Cuban sure is seeing what it would be like as President. You will get it for sure.
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