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Re: Picking James Young over Rodney Hood, and missing out on Nance
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2018, 10:33:52 AM »

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Danny picks well at the top of the draft...but struggles in the mid rounds...Melo, Sullinger, Young, Giddens, etc all were not good picks.
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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2018, 10:48:57 AM »

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Danny picks well at the top of the draft...but struggles in the mid rounds...Melo, Sullinger, Young, Giddens, etc all were not good picks.
It's entertaining how the story changes. People were saying exactly the opposite after Ainge picked up Allen, West, Perkins, Jefferson, Bradley, and Rondo (I'm sure I'm forgetting someone).
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Re: Picking James Young over Rodney Hood, and missing out on Nance
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2018, 10:57:48 AM »

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James Young one of the biggest busts I can remember. Along with Fab Melo.

If he was still here there would still be a contingent that would be saying that he is still too young to give up on him.

Lol true

Re: Picking James Young over Rodney Hood, and missing out on Nance
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2018, 10:59:19 AM »

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Danny picks well at the top of the draft...but struggles in the mid rounds...Melo, Sullinger, Young, Giddens, etc all were not good picks.

He also got Avery Bradley, Rajon Rondo, Tony Allen, and Al Jefferson in the middle of the draft. It's hit and miss.

There's also an argument for Sullinger as a good pick at #21. I know that sounds crazy because the Celtics let him walk for nothing and he's out of the league at 25 but getting 3 years of 12 and 8 form the #21 pick isn't bad. Sure Draymond Green would've been better but Perry Jones (there was a lot of noise that the C's should've drafted him) would've been worse. I don't mind it, I guess.
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Re: Picking James Young over Rodney Hood, and missing out on Nance
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2018, 11:08:22 AM »

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Re: Picking James Young over Rodney Hood, and missing out on Nance
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2018, 12:04:28 PM »

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Danny picks well at the top of the draft...but struggles in the mid rounds...Melo, Sullinger, Young, Giddens, etc all were not good picks.

Sullinger was a good pick and a productive player

Re: Picking James Young over Rodney Hood, and missing out on Nance
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2018, 12:37:44 PM »

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Despite the outcome, I have defended and will continue to defend the James Young pick.  Young was a high upside guy - top 10 recruit coming out of high school, arguably Kentucky's most consistent player on a team that played in the title game.  There were reasons for optimism.   Hood has turned out better, but we didn't know that was going to be the case at the time the pick was made.  That's the risk of upside picks - sometimes you miss.  It's easy to judge draft picks when you have the benefit of hindsight. 

Also, how is it "missing out on Nance" when he was selected before our pick?  Was Danny supposed to hold the Lakers at gunpoint and make them pick somebody else?  Or was he supposed to trade extra assets to move up and select a guy who is just decent? 

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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2018, 12:41:49 PM »

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Danny picks well at the top of the draft...but struggles in the mid rounds...Melo, Sullinger, Young, Giddens, etc all were not good picks.

Sullinger was a good pick and a productive player

As an Ohio State alum...I love Sully. But the fact is Boston did not get nearly enough out of him.
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« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2018, 12:47:03 PM »

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Danny picks well at the top of the draft...but struggles in the mid rounds...Melo, Sullinger, Young, Giddens, etc all were not good picks.

Sullinger was a good pick and a productive player

As an Ohio State alum...I love Sully. But the fact is Boston did not get nearly enough out of him.

That doesn't make it a bad pick.  We got more out of Sully than teams typically get out of the #21 pick historically. 

If you want to criticize Boston's inability to develop him, then I wouldn't argue with you there.  But he was a good pick. 

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« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2018, 12:52:51 PM »

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Despite the outcome, I have defended and will continue to defend the James Young pick.  Young was a high upside guy - top 10 recruit coming out of high school, arguably Kentucky's most consistent player on a team that played in the title game.  There were reasons for optimism.   Hood has turned out better, but we didn't know that was going to be the case at the time the pick was made.  That's the risk of upside picks - sometimes you miss.  It's easy to judge draft picks when you have the benefit of hindsight. 

Also, how is it "missing out on Nance" when he was selected before our pick?  Was Danny supposed to hold the Lakers at gunpoint and make them pick somebody else?  Or was he supposed to trade extra assets to move up and select a guy who is just decent?

That is the way I saw it. I believed Young had the immense potential and I definitely think as Danny said himself, "he was a project with high reward but low risk." Most late first round lottery picks don't pan out, and agreed about the Nance. But Nance would've been a fan favorite, and I think he would've been better off being drafted by us personally, especially in Steven's offense.
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« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2018, 01:05:29 PM »

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I want to hear from Celtics fans that knew a lot about the Greek Freak before he came to the NBA. During the draft, I remember being intrigued by him, but knew little about the big guy.


Nobody knew about Yannis.....

Nobody was interested n him till a Spanish team tried to sign him. Then a couple of first division teams started scouting him but it was a bit late.  It was impossible to judge his bball abilities and his athleticism  because of the level of the rest of the league. He was a tall agile extremely thin guy who couldn't make a basket further than the paint playing against mostly Sunday leaguers..... The level of the Greek A2 league is low.... I am mean seriously low!!!! I ve posted once a couple of youtube links with full games to judge it yourselves. If anyone wants to hurt his eyes i can post some links again .... I would advise against it though :)


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« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2018, 01:23:26 PM »

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Danny picks well at the top of the draft...but struggles in the mid rounds...Melo, Sullinger, Young, Giddens, etc all were not good picks.

Sullinger was a good pick and a productive player

As an Ohio State alum...I love Sully. But the fact is Boston did not get nearly enough out of him.

That doesn't make it a bad pick.  We got more out of Sully than teams typically get out of the #21 pick historically. 

If you want to criticize Boston's inability to develop him, then I wouldn't argue with you there.  But he was a good pick.

More of that he had a bad back at OSU he suffered through as well as the weight issue. It would have been nice for him to be still playing
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« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2018, 01:25:28 PM »

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I felt Gary Harris was the miss not Hood. I liked Young's upside vs Hood but Harris was better than both in terms of college play and future projection.
I agree that Harris was the big miss there but hood was a moderate miss too. I just mention hood because he helped create this 30 pt defeat today  while James young was probably smoking marijuana somewhere

Isn't James Young on the 76ers

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« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2018, 01:50:28 PM »

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Danny picks well at the top of the draft...but struggles in the mid rounds...Melo, Sullinger, Young, Giddens, etc all were not good picks.

Sully was the best out of everyone you listed there.

At one point I almost called him mini Kevin Love because of his rebounding machine and scoring. At least in his early days of the NBA.

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« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2018, 01:56:30 PM »

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I felt Gary Harris was the miss not Hood. I liked Young's upside vs Hood but Harris was better than both in terms of college play and future projection.
I agree that Harris was the big miss there but hood was a moderate miss too. I just mention hood because he helped create this 30 pt defeat today  while James young was probably smoking marijuana somewhere

Isn't James Young on the 76ers
He is one of their 2 way players.  He has played in 5 games this year, but with poor stats.  he is doing well in the GLeague though, so maybe one day he will be an end of the bench type player in the NBA.
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