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Re: It might be time to close the book on the 2018 Draft...
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2018, 10:19:44 AM »

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don't look now, but the lakers are only 5 games back of the #5 spot in the 2018 draft which would mean a 25.% per cent chance at a top 3 pick.

see? it works two ways.  ;D

Couldn't agree more.

Re: It might be time to close the book on the 2018 Draft...
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2018, 10:29:37 AM »

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What can we possibly get with our own 1st? Another Nader? I don't want another Nader nor do I want the one we have. Let's close the book on this draft because the Lakers are sticking it to us.

Nader was the 58th pick in the draft. Our 1st will be between 27-29.  It’s not the same thing.

Right. The correct guy to lament is JaJuan Johnson.

To this day I don’t know why JaJuan Johnson failed so badly.  He was the guy I wanted heading into the draft (behind Faried, who went earlier) and I was so excited when we got him.  I’d pick him again tomorrow in a do-over and just hope it turned out better.  A projected stretch 4/5 who blocked more shots than he committed fouls, college senior, major conference Player of the Year, 6’10” with a 7’2” wingspan, and one of the best verticals in the draft.  He had the size and athleticism combined with terrific on-court results against the top college competition.

I will always lament JaJuan Johnson, and I will never understand why he flamed out so quickly.

Re: It might be time to close the book on the 2018 Draft...
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2018, 10:46:57 AM »

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What can we possibly get with our own 1st? Another Nader? I don't want another Nader nor do I want the one we have. Let's close the book on this draft because the Lakers are sticking it to us.

Nader was the 58th pick in the draft. Our 1st will be between 27-29.  It’s not the same thing.

Right. The correct guy to lament is JaJuan Johnson.

Or JR Giddens, Fab Melo, RJ Hunter, ect.
Don't understand why people lament the late 1st picks that don't make it.  The likelihood of late 1sts ending up a back bencher or worse is quite high.  I lament Ainge taking Olynyk over Giannis.  Or you could lament taking Young.  Capella would look awfully nice in green. 

Re: It might be time to close the book on the 2018 Draft...
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2018, 10:50:07 AM »

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What can we possibly get with our own 1st? Another Nader? I don't want another Nader nor do I want the one we have. Let's close the book on this draft because the Lakers are sticking it to us.

Nader was the 58th pick in the draft. Our 1st will be between 27-29.  It’s not the same thing.

Right. The correct guy to lament is JaJuan Johnson.

To this day I don’t know why JaJuan Johnson failed so badly.  He was the guy I wanted heading into the draft (behind Faried, who went earlier) and I was so excited when we got him.  I’d pick him again tomorrow in a do-over and just hope it turned out better.  A projected stretch 4/5 who blocked more shots than he committed fouls, college senior, major conference Player of the Year, 6’10” with a 7’2” wingspan, and one of the best verticals in the draft.  He had the size and athleticism combined with terrific on-court results against the top college competition.

I will always lament JaJuan Johnson, and I will never understand why he flamed out so quickly.
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Re: It might be time to close the book on the 2018 Draft...
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2018, 11:10:45 AM »

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What can we possibly get with our own 1st? Another Nader? I don't want another Nader nor do I want the one we have. Let's close the book on this draft because the Lakers are sticking it to us.

Nader was the 58th pick in the draft. Our 1st will be between 27-29.  It’s not the same thing.

Right. The correct guy to lament is JaJuan Johnson.

To this day I don’t know why JaJuan Johnson failed so badly.  He was the guy I wanted heading into the draft (behind Faried, who went earlier) and I was so excited when we got him.  I’d pick him again tomorrow in a do-over and just hope it turned out better.  A projected stretch 4/5 who blocked more shots than he committed fouls, college senior, major conference Player of the Year, 6’10” with a 7’2” wingspan, and one of the best verticals in the draft.  He had the size and athleticism combined with terrific on-court results against the top college competition.

I will always lament JaJuan Johnson, and I will never understand why he flamed out so quickly.

And E'Twaun Moore is still in the league making over 8.5 mil the next couple of years. Who would have predicted their respective paths?

Re: It might be time to close the book on the 2018 Draft...
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2018, 11:21:08 AM »

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What can we possibly get with our own 1st? Another Nader? I don't want another Nader nor do I want the one we have. Let's close the book on this draft because the Lakers are sticking it to us.

Nader was the 58th pick in the draft. Our 1st will be between 27-29.  It’s not the same thing.

Right. The correct guy to lament is JaJuan Johnson.

To this day I don’t know why JaJuan Johnson failed so badly.  He was the guy I wanted heading into the draft (behind Faried, who went earlier) and I was so excited when we got him.  I’d pick him again tomorrow in a do-over and just hope it turned out better.  A projected stretch 4/5 who blocked more shots than he committed fouls, college senior, major conference Player of the Year, 6’10” with a 7’2” wingspan, and one of the best verticals in the draft.  He had the size and athleticism combined with terrific on-court results against the top college competition.

I will always lament JaJuan Johnson, and I will never understand why he flamed out so quickly.

And E'Twaun Moore is still in the league making over 8.5 mil the next couple of years. Who would have predicted their respective paths?

I really liked Moore also, and complained when the Lee sign-and-trade was made that he was included as salary-filler.  (I hated that Lee trade — Moore, 3 seconds, Johnson, all for someone we paid another second to get rid of 18 months later.  Should have just given Moore a shot.)

Re: It might be time to close the book on the 2018 Draft...
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2018, 11:48:38 AM »

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To this day I don’t know why JaJuan Johnson failed so badly.  He was the guy I wanted heading into the draft (behind Faried, who went earlier) and I was so excited when we got him.  I’d pick him again tomorrow in a do-over and just hope it turned out better.  A projected stretch 4/5 who blocked more shots than he committed fouls, college senior, major conference Player of the Year, 6’10” with a 7’2” wingspan, and one of the best verticals in the draft.  He had the size and athleticism combined with terrific on-court results against the top college competition.

I will always lament JaJuan Johnson, and I will never understand why he flamed out so quickly.

he played two years in my hometown and I've seen him play a lot; my guess is that has two limits he can't overcome:
1) he couldn't fill a role on defense (too slow for 4, too skinny for 5)
2) he's very good on the offensive side only if he's the focus of the offense and if he's free to shoot everything he wants to.

btw he has also added a nice 3-pt shoot and here in Europe he's simply unstoppable if he goes on fire;

Re: It might be time to close the book on the 2018 Draft...
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2018, 12:01:58 PM »

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It's been time for a while to close the books. Having said that, the history of the 27th pick (where we are now) is a pretty favorable one:

2017: Kyle Kuzma
2016: Pascal Siakam
2015: Larry Nance Jr
2014: Bogdan Bogdanovic
2013: Rudy Gobert

See? It's all part of DA's plan. :)

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Re: It might be time to close the book on the 2018 Draft...
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2018, 12:04:40 PM »

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To this day I don’t know why JaJuan Johnson failed so badly.  He was the guy I wanted heading into the draft (behind Faried, who went earlier) and I was so excited when we got him.  I’d pick him again tomorrow in a do-over and just hope it turned out better.  A projected stretch 4/5 who blocked more shots than he committed fouls, college senior, major conference Player of the Year, 6’10” with a 7’2” wingspan, and one of the best verticals in the draft.  He had the size and athleticism combined with terrific on-court results against the top college competition.

I will always lament JaJuan Johnson, and I will never understand why he flamed out so quickly.

he played two years in my hometown and I've seen him play a lot; my guess is that has two limits he can't overcome:
1) he couldn't fill a role on defense (too slow for 4, too skinny for 5)
2) he's very good on the offensive side only if he's the focus of the offense and if he's free to shoot everything he wants to.

btw he has also added a nice 3-pt shoot and here in Europe he's simply unstoppable if he goes on fire;

Thanks for the update.  I always knew he had that 3-point shot in him.  He was a good defender in college, but I guess that didn’t translate.

Re: It might be time to close the book on the 2018 Draft...
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2018, 12:05:46 PM »

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It would take a miracle to get the Lakers' pick at this point but SAC really has nothing, they are built around Zach Randolph.  I am not too worried about the projections on the 2019 draft.  There will be some good players or the pick may help with a trade.

It is unbelievable that we got Tatum and this Pick for Fultz.

Re: It might be time to close the book on the 2018 Draft...
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2018, 05:15:11 PM »

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What can we possibly get with our own 1st? Another Nader? I don't want another Nader nor do I want the one we have. Let's close the book on this draft because the Lakers are sticking it to us.

Late 1st round pick and early 2nd round picks are very important for luxury cap strapped teams. These are cheap cost controlled players and landing even lower end rotational players with these picks really helps build a roster.

This draft may yield a few long shot higher ceiling bigs in the late first.

I would be happy if the Cs took a shot on any of the following with their own pick

Jontay Porter
Mitch Robinson
Brandon McCoy
Daniel Gaffod
Chimezie Metu


Their will also be a healthy crop of low ceiling rotation type players who could be plug in 10th-15th man type guys capable of contributing in case of injury. (look at Semi this year)

Bates-Diop big wing
Milton combo guard
Grayson Allen combo guard
Jevon Carter defensive point
Allonzo Tier scoring guard
Devonte Graham pure point
Vince Edwards
combo forward
Mykhailiuk shooting wing
Mavs
Wiz
Hornet

Re: It might be time to close the book on the 2018 Draft...
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2018, 05:23:11 PM »

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Like to see us get Mitchell Robinson  dude was a top 10 player coming out of high school..he's around 6-11...
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: It might be time to close the book on the 2018 Draft...
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2018, 05:43:34 PM »

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don't look now, but the lakers are only 5 games back of the #5 spot in the 2018 draft which would mean a 25.% per cent chance at a top 3 pick.

see? it works two ways.  ;D
That includes a 7.6% chance of it being the #1 pick which would mean the Sixers keep it. 

See.  Every silver lining has a touch of grey.   ;D
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Re: It might be time to close the book on the 2018 Draft...
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2018, 05:55:48 PM »

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don't look now, but the lakers are only 5 games back of the #5 spot in the 2018 draft which would mean a 25.% per cent chance at a top 3 pick.

see? it works two ways.  ;D
That includes a 7.6% chance of it being the #1 pick which would mean the Sixers keep it. 

See.  Every silver lining has a touch of grey.   ;D
Guess I'm the only old fart to get the dead reference
TP for you. 

Re: It might be time to close the book on the 2018 Draft...
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2018, 06:16:10 PM »

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