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Idea: sell high on Rozier
« on: February 03, 2018, 03:13:24 PM »

Offline jbpats

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Just bored on a Saturday so don’t rip my head off at the notion of dumping everyone’s new favorite Celtic.

Proposal:
T. Rosé, Lakers pick and maaaybe the Grizzlies pick
For
Devin Booker

Why we do it?
Obvious answer we have Kyrie and need more scoring. He is also a good fit in terms of the  youth/vet ratio we have right now.

Why Phoenix does it?
They’re terrible, they’ll get a solid young starter in T. Rosé and two more near guaranteed lottery picks  over the next few years.

I also like the idea of Jalen coming off the bench, I think he’d be a helliva sixth man who covers multiple positions.

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Re: Idea: sell high on Rozier
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2018, 03:18:54 PM »

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(1) Suns would never do that
(2) Well-rounded teams need talented role players. There’s only one ball. A guy like Rozier who doesn’t need the ball in his hand all the time, is an incredible rebounder, and clearly well-liked is more valuable than he appears.
(3) As of now, the year Booker would be up for a new contract we’ll likely have to offer Jaylen Brown a max contract. The next year we’ll have to offer Tatum the same. We don’t have enough money!
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Re: Idea: sell high on Rozier
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2018, 03:19:27 PM »

Offline KGs Knee

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I don't think that would be enough for the Suns to move Booker.

And I don't think Booker and Kyrie would be a particularly great match anyway. Booker has never played a lick of defense in his entire life, and is even more ball-dominant than Kyrie.

Re: Idea: sell high on Rozier
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2018, 03:40:01 PM »

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You can't say you're selling high till you know what his true potential is and we don't.  He's still improving - rapidly.

Re: Idea: sell high on Rozier
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2018, 11:15:28 PM »

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Selling high would be this summer.  We need him right now.  We may not need him next season depending on what he's worth. 

Re: Idea: sell high on Rozier
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2018, 11:34:20 PM »

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(1) Suns would never do that
(2) Well-rounded teams need talented role players. There’s only one ball. A guy like Rozier who doesn’t need the ball in his hand all the time, is an incredible rebounder, and clearly well-liked is more valuable than he appears.
(3) As of now, the year Booker would be up for a new contract we’ll likely have to offer Jaylen Brown a max contract. The next year we’ll have to offer Tatum the same. We don’t have enough money!
It’s certainly too early to be declaring both Brown and Tatum deserving of max contracts.
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Re: Idea: sell high on Rozier
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2018, 05:03:52 PM »

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I don't think that would be enough for the Suns to move Booker.

And I don't think Booker and Kyrie would be a particularly great match anyway. Booker has never played a lick of defense in his entire life, and is even more ball-dominant than Kyrie.

He is the only piece they're building around.  They don't answer the phone with that offer...

Re: Idea: sell high on Rozier
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2018, 05:20:12 PM »

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(1) Suns would never do that
(2) Well-rounded teams need talented role players. There’s only one ball. A guy like Rozier who doesn’t need the ball in his hand all the time, is an incredible rebounder, and clearly well-liked is more valuable than he appears.
(3) As of now, the year Booker would be up for a new contract we’ll likely have to offer Jaylen Brown a max contract. The next year we’ll have to offer Tatum the same. We don’t have enough money!
It’s certainly too early to be declaring both Brown and Tatum deserving of max contracts.

Only slightly too early.  Given their age, draft pedigree, current production, and year-to-year growth in the case of Brown, about the only way they aren't getting a max deal, or at least within about 5% of one, is if either suffer a major injury between now and extension time.  Let’s hope thats not the case.
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2018, 06:12:03 PM »

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Re: Idea: sell high on Rozier
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2018, 06:49:13 PM »

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Have to admit, I came into this thread thinking of rolling my eyes after how good Rozier has looked lately, we're seriously considering trading him now, but this is actually not a horrible idea.

Still don't think PHO would even consider it though, and I honestly don't know if Booker and Kyrie can co-exist together.
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Re: Idea: sell high on Rozier
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2018, 06:51:13 PM »

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You can't say you're selling high till you know what his true potential is and we don't.  He's still improving - rapidly.

This. It’s impossible to claim selling high when an assets’ long term value is still TBD.

Don’t wanna end up like those people who sold amazon stock from 2000-2010.

Re: Idea: sell high on Rozier
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2018, 07:09:25 PM »

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Interesting, but as the LA pick looks less and less likely to be conveyed to us and looks likely to wind up as the SAC pick in 2019, I don't think Phoenix would even consider waiting. TP

Re: Idea: sell high on Rozier
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2018, 11:50:00 AM »

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Haha.  They are not giving us Booker.  But I'd love this trade if it happens, which shows why Phoenix doesn't do it.  Now if you mention Jaylen Brown's name too, they might not hang up right away.

Re: Idea: sell high on Rozier
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2018, 09:42:29 AM »

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though i don't agree with the trade, i do think rozier's trade value this summer will attract some bidders. easy 1st round pick trade
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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2018, 06:19:56 PM »

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Booker and Kyrie can absolutely co-exist as a back court, but they are gonna be woefully awful on defense. Booker needs the ball in his hands, but he's also an excellent shooter/scorer. The problem is Booker and Kyrie both like to score, and take the last shot. So it really does come down to whether or not you firmly believe Booker is willing to commit to defense.

A better trade would be Jaylen Brown+ T-Roz, and 2 first round picks.

Allows Smart to PG/SG as a sixth man, and allows Booker to have free space on the floor during the 1st and 2nd unit to ball handle.

I also forget Booker is only 21, and while his team isn't that good. He's already putting up similar numbers to Kyrie, and is only 0.2 APG behind Kyrie's.
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