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Re: woj: "tremendous disconnect" Between kawhi and spurs
« Reply #45 on: February 26, 2018, 06:06:59 PM »

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If he does get traded, as long as it's not to the Lakers, Warriors or Cavaliers, I'll be happy.

I don't think he gets traded BUT it's certainly getting interesting. I think there is something going on between Kawhi and the Spurs behind the scenes. Doesn't mean it can't get resolved but it's also hard to overlook that Kawhi doesn't want to come back even though the Spurs are a Top-4 team in the West without him (just imagine how they'd be WITH him + Gay), and he's been medically cleared for a while according to reports.  ???
Add the 76ers to that list. I really would hate to see Embiid with Leonard against us

And what would the 76ers give up for Leonard, Simmons?  Doubtful they want to get rid of that kid and I'm pretty sure Spurs are not interested in a broken jumpshot Markelle Fultz.

Celtics still have the biggest stash of tradeable assets.  If Leonard becomes available in the offseason, I have to believe we are top of the list of desirable trade partners.
The Warriors arenít a likely trade partner, but that doesnít stop me from not wanting Kawhi to go there

Re: Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #46 on: February 26, 2018, 07:19:17 PM »

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.  I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a package of Fultz,

I would be surprised if any one wants Fultz at this time...

Re: Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #47 on: February 26, 2018, 07:23:17 PM »

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Yeah, the Spurs were one of the first teams to really focus on personality type and confidence when acquiring players. I don't think Fultz would be on their short list.

Saric, on the other hand, might get the Spurs to the table, but I'd think the Spurs would want more back, and the Sixers draft stash has a lot of picks, but not very many good ones anymore.

Re: Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #48 on: February 26, 2018, 08:04:35 PM »

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.  I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a package of Fultz,

I would be surprised if any one wants Fultz at this time...
agreed. Fultz  contract at this point is dead weight

Re: Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #49 on: February 26, 2018, 10:17:50 PM »

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.  I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a package of Fultz,

I would be surprised if any one wants Fultz at this time...
agreed. Fultz  contract at this point is dead weight
you guys are crazy.  He was the near consensus #1 pick less than a year ago.  He obviously isn't worth what he was, but he absolutely still carries a lot of value
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Re: Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #50 on: February 26, 2018, 10:46:30 PM »

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.  I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a package of Fultz,

I would be surprised if any one wants Fultz at this time...
agreed. Fultz  contract at this point is dead weight
you guys are crazy.  He was the near consensus #1 pick less than a year ago.  He obviously isn't worth what he was, but he absolutely still carries a lot of value

The guy has a broken shot all together, apparently is suffering an injury, and has been reportedly using virtual reality goggles to figure out his shot.

Are we really crazy to believe his trade value isn't high right now??  ???

I mean sure, maybe he can be a piece in a trade, but he's definitely NOT going to be the 1st or even 2nd best asset I imagine that would be in the trade. So yeah, in a hypothetical Leonard trade, PHI has to give up a Simmons or a bunch of other pieces (even besides the multiple 1sts)
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Re: Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #51 on: February 27, 2018, 03:36:47 AM »

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.  I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a package of Fultz,

I would be surprised if any one wants Fultz at this time...
agreed. Fultz  contract at this point is dead weight
you guys are crazy.  He was the near consensus #1 pick less than a year ago.  He obviously isn't worth what he was, but he absolutely still carries a lot of value
nerlens Noel at one point was a consensus #1 pick. Canít crack a rotation on a bad mavs team. Some things just donít work out even in a consensus

Re: Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #52 on: February 27, 2018, 05:43:21 AM »

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.  I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a package of Fultz,

I would be surprised if any one wants Fultz at this time...
agreed. Fultz  contract at this point is dead weight
you guys are crazy.  He was the near consensus #1 pick less than a year ago.  He obviously isn't worth what he was, but he absolutely still carries a lot of value
nerlens Noel at one point was a consensus #1 pick. Canít crack a rotation on a bad mavs team. Some things just donít work out even in a consensus
Noel has proven that he's not very good.  Fultz hasn't.  He still has tons of upside.  And even if he never regains his shot, look no further than his teammate Simmons for an example of how that can go.

Re: Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #53 on: February 27, 2018, 07:06:52 AM »

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you guys are crazy.  He was the near consensus #1 pick less than a year ago.  He obviously isn't worth what he was, but he absolutely still carries a lot of value

1) Look at his shot, and tell me with a straight face, he is a NBA quality shooter.
2) Consensus can be wrong and  I am not afraid to challenge it if it is so.
3) We dodged a bullet by not drafting him

Chad Ford was clearly wrong about Fultz and Ball.   I think consensus you are speaking of, was quite frankly, hype.  There was a reason they hide Fultz for most of the year last year and we may be seeing why.

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« Reply #54 on: February 27, 2018, 07:15:04 AM »

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.  I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a package of Fultz,

I would be surprised if any one wants Fultz at this time...
agreed. Fultz  contract at this point is dead weight
you guys are crazy.  He was the near consensus #1 pick less than a year ago.  He obviously isn't worth what he was, but he absolutely still carries a lot of value
nerlens Noel at one point was a consensus #1 pick. Canít crack a rotation on a bad mavs team. Some things just donít work out even in a consensus
Noel has proven that he's not very good.  Fultz hasn't.  He still has tons of upside.  And even if he never regains his shot, look no further than his teammate Simmons for an example of how that can go.
Simmons has a far more versatile skill set.  If Fultz can't fix whatever is wrong, he could become the biggest bust of all time.

Re: Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #55 on: February 27, 2018, 08:14:09 AM »

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you guys are crazy.  He was the near consensus #1 pick less than a year ago.  He obviously isn't worth what he was, but he absolutely still carries a lot of value

1) Look at his shot, and tell me with a straight face, he is a NBA quality shooter.
2) Consensus can be wrong and  I am not afraid to challenge it if it is so.
3) We dodged a bullet by not drafting him

Chad Ford was clearly wrong about Fultz and Ball.   I think consensus you are speaking of, was quite frankly, hype.  There was a reason they hide Fultz for most of the year last year and we may be seeing why.
You're right the guy that shot over 41% from 3 in college and 40% in summer league from 3 can't shoot.  Come on, give me a break.
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Re: Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #56 on: February 27, 2018, 09:38:47 AM »

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you guys are crazy.  He was the near consensus #1 pick less than a year ago.  He obviously isn't worth what he was, but he absolutely still carries a lot of value

1) Look at his shot, and tell me with a straight face, he is a NBA quality shooter.
2) Consensus can be wrong and  I am not afraid to challenge it if it is so.
3) We dodged a bullet by not drafting him

Chad Ford was clearly wrong about Fultz and Ball.   I think consensus you are speaking of, was quite frankly, hype.  There was a reason they hide Fultz for most of the year last year and we may be seeing why.
You're right the guy that shot over 41% from 3 in college and 40% in summer league from 3 can't shoot.  Come on, give me a break.

Example of the eye test versus the stats.

Eye test is pretty obvious right now. I always felt like his shot varied a bit too much for him to have that good of shooting percentages.

Re: Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #57 on: February 27, 2018, 09:45:24 AM »

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Guys, you understand this is a Kawhi thread. Fultz has a dozen of his own threads.
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Re: Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #58 on: February 27, 2018, 11:30:58 AM »

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Guys, you understand this is a Kawhi thread. Fultz has a dozen of his own threads.
It is a thread about trading for Leonard.  Philly is an obvious potential landing spot, and Fultz is an obvious piece that would go to San Antonio.
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Re: Kawhi Leonard
« Reply #59 on: February 27, 2018, 11:42:51 AM »

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Hasn't it been reported that Kawhi is returning to the Spurs and that he should be playing again in March?
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