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Re: DeMarcus Cousins is out for the rest of the season with torn left achilles
« Reply #105 on: January 29, 2018, 09:38:32 AM »

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I know we get on Stevens a lot for his love of rotations but limiting players minutes is important. Fatigue and overuse is a problem over the course of a long season.
I don’t really see how this is relevant to Cousins though.  He plays with the intensity of a walk through.  The amazing thing is that he can get you 30 and 15 with such little effort.


I think this is a false conclusion.  Boogie ran the 7th most miles of any center this year, just barely behind Horford and Steven Adams. He was 5th in miles run on defense.

He’s still putting a ton of wear and tear on his body.


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Re: DeMarcus Cousins is out for the rest of the season with torn left achilles
« Reply #106 on: January 29, 2018, 11:46:20 AM »

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Re: DeMarcus Cousins is out for the rest of the season with torn left achilles
« Reply #107 on: January 29, 2018, 12:27:01 PM »

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I know we get on Stevens a lot for his love of rotations but limiting players minutes is important. Fatigue and overuse is a problem over the course of a long season.
I don’t really see how this is relevant to Cousins though.  He plays with the intensity of a walk through.  The amazing thing is that he can get you 30 and 15 with such little effort.
This is the first time I've ever heard cousins doesn't play intense.

He bangs down low for offensive and defensive rebounds, he runs around all over the place To defend the perimeter on switches, and his height and weight alone means when he's playing 40 mpg no matter what play style it will be intense

Re: DeMarcus Cousins is out for the rest of the season with torn left achilles
« Reply #108 on: January 29, 2018, 12:38:17 PM »

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I know we get on Stevens a lot for his love of rotations but limiting players minutes is important. Fatigue and overuse is a problem over the course of a long season.
I don’t really see how this is relevant to Cousins though.  He plays with the intensity of a walk through.  The amazing thing is that he can get you 30 and 15 with such little effort.
This is the first time I've ever heard cousins doesn't play intense.

He bangs down low for offensive and defensive rebounds, he runs around all over the place To defend the perimeter on switches, and his height and weight alone means when he's playing 40 mpg no matter what play style it will be intense

Really? You’ve never heard that before?  Is this the first thread on Cousins that you’ve ever read on Celticsblog?  Without taking a stance on whether or not it’s accurate, it’s certisnly not an uncommon opinion.

Re: DeMarcus Cousins is out for the rest of the season with torn left achilles
« Reply #109 on: January 29, 2018, 02:20:21 PM »

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I know we get on Stevens a lot for his love of rotations but limiting players minutes is important. Fatigue and overuse is a problem over the course of a long season.
I don’t really see how this is relevant to Cousins though.  He plays with the intensity of a walk through.  The amazing thing is that he can get you 30 and 15 with such little effort.
This is the first time I've ever heard cousins doesn't play intense.

He bangs down low for offensive and defensive rebounds, he runs around all over the place To defend the perimeter on switches, and his height and weight alone means when he's playing 40 mpg no matter what play style it will be intense

Really? You’ve never heard that before?  Is this the first thread on Cousins that you’ve ever read on Celticsblog?  Without taking a stance on whether or not it’s accurate, it’s certisnly not an uncommon opinion.
haha you're right. Tp. The funny thing is I made the thread the other day showing how he gave up playing for a few minutes cuz he didn't get a foul call

 idk how but I forgot he does these things

Re: DeMarcus Cousins is out for the rest of the season with torn left achilles
« Reply #110 on: January 29, 2018, 04:49:46 PM »

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I know we get on Stevens a lot for his love of rotations but limiting players minutes is important. Fatigue and overuse is a problem over the course of a long season.
I don’t really see how this is relevant to Cousins though.  He plays with the intensity of a walk through.  The amazing thing is that he can get you 30 and 15 with such little effort.
How is it not relevant? The article posted a few posts ago mentioned he was almost averaging 40 minutes per game in his last 10 games. It's pretty excessive,  especially for a big man.

Re: DeMarcus Cousins is out for the rest of the season with torn left achilles
« Reply #111 on: January 29, 2018, 04:54:54 PM »

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I know we get on Stevens a lot for his love of rotations but limiting players minutes is important. Fatigue and overuse is a problem over the course of a long season.
I don’t really see how this is relevant to Cousins though.  He plays with the intensity of a walk through.  The amazing thing is that he can get you 30 and 15 with such little effort.
How is it not relevant? The article posted a few posts ago mentioned he was almost averaging 40 minutes per game in his last 10 games. It's pretty excessive,  especially for a big man.

I was surprised to see those numbers. Definitely was not a good situation

Re: DeMarcus Cousins is out for the rest of the season with torn left achilles
« Reply #112 on: January 29, 2018, 06:37:44 PM »

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I know we get on Stevens a lot for his love of rotations but limiting players minutes is important. Fatigue and overuse is a problem over the course of a long season.
I don’t really see how this is relevant to Cousins though.  He plays with the intensity of a walk through.  The amazing thing is that he can get you 30 and 15 with such little effort.


I think this is a false conclusion.  Boogie ran the 7th most miles of any center this year, just barely behind Horford and Steven Adams. He was 5th in miles run on defense.

He’s still putting a ton of wear and tear on his body.
Well there's running back on defense and then there's what Cousins does. He kinda of saunters back on defense and that's when he isn't taking forever to get back up off the floor or isn't still complaining to the refs while standing there or walking slowly back.

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I know we get on Stevens a lot for his love of rotations but limiting players minutes is important. Fatigue and overuse is a problem over the course of a long season.
I don’t really see how this is relevant to Cousins though.  He plays with the intensity of a walk through.  The amazing thing is that he can get you 30 and 15 with such little effort.


I think this is a false conclusion.  Boogie ran the 7th most miles of any center this year, just barely behind Horford and Steven Adams. He was 5th in miles run on defense.

He’s still putting a ton of wear and tear on his body.
Well there's running back on defense and then there's what Cousins does. He kinda of saunters back on defense and that's when he isn't taking forever to get back up off the floor or isn't still complaining to the refs while standing there or walking slowly back.
Cousins fans (me included) and lovers (me excluded) - please note that the Pels are no worse without his contributions.
27-25 before the injury, 17-11 since he went down.
Sure, he can score 26 PPG, grab 12 RPG and still it is all worthless if it doesn't change your team's performance in a positive manner.
Empty counting stats.
I am sure that many believe that Mirotić is an inferior player (talent-wise I agree), but the on-court product is no worse.

Give the ball more to Jrue, (7 APG since February, 5,2 before)
Let AD score more, (30.8 PPG since February, 26,4 before)
Niko will space
And Gentry will know what to expect each game (no early 2 PF foul trouble, no 2 technicals, no sleeping in transition D, no getting out of shape after 2 months, no weak body language)

And you get to that 17-11

So is Cousins worth 25-30 mils yearly?
Even before this tough injury, I'd say a resounding - No.
Will he get it?
We will see, but that is a different pair of trousers.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2018, 07:39:57 AM by Androslav »
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I know we get on Stevens a lot for his love of rotations but limiting players minutes is important. Fatigue and overuse is a problem over the course of a long season.
I don’t really see how this is relevant to Cousins though.  He plays with the intensity of a walk through.  The amazing thing is that he can get you 30 and 15 with such little effort.


I think this is a false conclusion.  Boogie ran the 7th most miles of any center this year, just barely behind Horford and Steven Adams. He was 5th in miles run on defense.

He’s still putting a ton of wear and tear on his body.
Well there's running back on defense and then there's what Cousins does. He kinda of saunters back on defense and that's when he isn't taking forever to get back up off the floor or isn't still complaining to the refs while standing there or walking slowly back.
Cousins fans (me included) and lovers (me excluded) - please note that the Pels are no worse without his contributions.
27-25 before the injury, 17-11 since he went down.
Sure, he can score 26 PPG, grab 12 RPG and still it is all worthless if it doesn't change your team's performance in a positive manner.
Empty counting stats.
I am sure that many believe that Mirotić is an inferior player (talent-wise I agree), but the on-court product is no worse.

Give the ball more to Jrue, (7 APG since February, 5,2 before)
Let AD score more, (30.8 PPG since February, 26,4 before)
Niko will space
And Gentry will know what to expect each game (no early 2 PF foul trouble, no 2 technicals, no sleeping in transition D, no getting out of shape after 2 months, no weak body language)

And you get to that 17-11

So is Cousins worth 25-30 mils yearly?
Even before this tough injury, I'd say a resounding - No.
Will he get it?
We will see, but that is a different pair of trousers.
Lol, what a ridiculous way to represent the Pels season. So much of this isn’t even based in reality.

In a world where Jrue Holiday, Mike Conley and Al Horford are worth $25m+ then Cousins is without a doubt.
To disagree with that is straight up foolish, just like the post
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I know we get on Stevens a lot for his love of rotations but limiting players minutes is important. Fatigue and overuse is a problem over the course of a long season.
I don’t really see how this is relevant to Cousins though.  He plays with the intensity of a walk through.  The amazing thing is that he can get you 30 and 15 with such little effort.


I think this is a false conclusion.  Boogie ran the 7th most miles of any center this year, just barely behind Horford and Steven Adams. He was 5th in miles run on defense.

He’s still putting a ton of wear and tear on his body.
Well there's running back on defense and then there's what Cousins does. He kinda of saunters back on defense and that's when he isn't taking forever to get back up off the floor or isn't still complaining to the refs while standing there or walking slowly back.
Cousins fans (me included) and lovers (me excluded) - please note that the Pels are no worse without his contributions.
27-25 before the injury, 17-11 since he went down.
Sure, he can score 26 PPG, grab 12 RPG and still it is all worthless if it doesn't change your team's performance in a positive manner.
Empty counting stats.
I am sure that many believe that Mirotić is an inferior player (talent-wise I agree), but the on-court product is no worse.

Give the ball more to Jrue, (7 APG since February, 5,2 before)
Let AD score more, (30.8 PPG since February, 26,4 before)
Niko will space
And Gentry will know what to expect each game (no early 2 PF foul trouble, no 2 technicals, no sleeping in transition D, no getting out of shape after 2 months, no weak body language)

And you get to that 17-11

So is Cousins worth 25-30 mils yearly?
Even before this tough injury, I'd say a resounding - No.
Will he get it?
We will see, but that is a different pair of trousers.
The Pels were 27-21 in games Cousins played and 17-13 so far in the games he didn't.  They were 18-18 at the beginning of this year.  In January they went 9-3 before Cousins got hurt.  Mirotic has performed worse for the Pels than the Bulls (3pt% dropped from 42.9 to 30.8).  Might they be locked into the playoffs already if they hadn't lost Cousins? 

Before the injury depending on the team, I think he would have been worth 25M.  Especially for the Pels who don't have any cap room even if they let him go.  With the Achilles injury, I don't see how any team pays him much at all.  He's going to miss a lot of next season even if his recovery goes well which is far from certain. 

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Sure, how about Irving and Tatum?
Should thrown in Brown too as filler.

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I know we get on Stevens a lot for his love of rotations but limiting players minutes is important. Fatigue and overuse is a problem over the course of a long season.
I don’t really see how this is relevant to Cousins though.  He plays with the intensity of a walk through.  The amazing thing is that he can get you 30 and 15 with such little effort.


I think this is a false conclusion.  Boogie ran the 7th most miles of any center this year, just barely behind Horford and Steven Adams. He was 5th in miles run on defense.

He’s still putting a ton of wear and tear on his body.
Well there's running back on defense and then there's what Cousins does. He kinda of saunters back on defense and that's when he isn't taking forever to get back up off the floor or isn't still complaining to the refs while standing there or walking slowly back.
Cousins fans (me included) and lovers (me excluded) - please note that the Pels are no worse without his contributions.
27-25 before the injury, 17-11 since he went down.
Sure, he can score 26 PPG, grab 12 RPG and still it is all worthless if it doesn't change your team's performance in a positive manner.
Empty counting stats.
I am sure that many believe that Mirotić is an inferior player (talent-wise I agree), but the on-court product is no worse.

Give the ball more to Jrue, (7 APG since February, 5,2 before)
Let AD score more, (30.8 PPG since February, 26,4 before)
Niko will space
And Gentry will know what to expect each game (no early 2 PF foul trouble, no 2 technicals, no sleeping in transition D, no getting out of shape after 2 months, no weak body language)

And you get to that 17-11

So is Cousins worth 25-30 mils yearly?
Even before this tough injury, I'd say a resounding - No.
Will he get it?
We will see, but that is a different pair of trousers.
Lol, what a ridiculous way to represent the Pels season. So much of this isn’t even based in reality.

In a world where Jrue Holiday, Mike Conley and Al Horford are worth $25m+ then Cousins is without a doubt.
To disagree with that is straight up foolish, just like the post

I might have mixed up their record, at the time, by a game or two,
but my points, especially Mirotić one sticks.
He does impact winning more than DMC.
Jrue looks like a free-man with the ball in his hands more.
AD is AD of course as always, no player can diminish him.
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