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Would You Trade Tatum In A Bigger Package If It Meant Acquiring The Greek Freak?

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Re: Purely Hypothetical: Would You Trade Tatum In Package For Greek Freak?
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2018, 04:14:49 PM »

Offline CF033

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Of course you would.

Tatum might become great but a player like Giannis is a true rarity. IMO he's the type of player you'd bend over backwards to acquire.

If we had to do something like Tatum + Horford + Lakers Pick (or whatever coveted pick at the time) I think it would probably be a no brainer for Danny.

Re: Purely Hypothetical: Would You Trade Tatum In Package For Greek Freak?
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2018, 04:21:26 PM »

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You have to make that deal. I love me some Tatum, but this is some "do we trade Al Jefferson for Kevin Garnett" level stuff.

Giannis is an MVP level player in his prime. Tatum is a really good prospect who might get there one day. You trade a prospect for a top-5 player in the league 100 times out of 100.

Tatum, Smart, Morris, Yabusele, LAL18 (let's say #4), two more 1st rounders... and MIL probably still says no.

Irving / Brown/ Hayward/ Giannis core would have a 5+ year window.
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Re: Purely Hypothetical: Would You Trade Tatum In Package For Greek Freak?
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2018, 04:39:52 PM »

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I am sure we would but they WOULD NOT!

Re: Purely Hypothetical: Would You Trade Tatum In Package For Greek Freak?
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2018, 04:49:19 PM »

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Re: Purely Hypothetical: Would You Trade Tatum In Package For Greek Freak?
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2018, 04:52:15 PM »

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Yup. In a minute. But unless Giannis is making a complete mess of things for the Bucks with threats and demands of wanting out of Milwaukee, its not happening.

Feel the same way about Kawhi and San Antonio.

Re: Purely Hypothetical: Would You Trade Tatum In Package For Greek Freak?
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2018, 05:09:28 PM »

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I would not trade Tatum for anyone because his value is the lowest it will ever be. And it's not just an age thing of rookies will always grow and become better. For example, I believe that Jaylen Browns value is the highest it will ever be right now. I don't consider him to be more than a good starter because he doesn't have the killer instinct to be the guy, but some GMs still think that he has star potential.

If it's Giannis for Tatum straight up in a hypothetical world where it's legal, sure. But you'd have to throw in picks, players, the kitchen sink. It's just not worth it.

Re: Purely Hypothetical: Would You Trade Tatum In Package For Greek Freak?
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2018, 05:19:27 PM »

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Yes. I would trade Tatum in a package for Giannis every time. We are talking about a 23 year old MVP candidate who is one of the bets defenders in the league. Tatum has been nice, but the chances he ever has a singe season as good as the one Giannis is having right now is very low. Thats before we even factor what his ceiling is to begin with, which is debatable. i view him as more like a paul george level guy if everything goes right, which is really good but easily worth giving up for Giannis.

Re: Purely Hypothetical: Would You Trade Tatum In Package For Greek Freak?
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2018, 05:21:30 PM »

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I would not trade Tatum for anyone because his value is the lowest it will ever be. And it's not just an age thing of rookies will always grow and become better. For example, I believe that Jaylen Browns value is the highest it will ever be right now. I don't consider him to be more than a good starter because he doesn't have the killer instinct to be the guy, but some GMs still think that he has star potential.

If it's Giannis for Tatum straight up in a hypothetical world where it's legal, sure. But you'd have to throw in picks, players, the kitchen sink. It's just not worth it.

I dont want to get off topic here but Jaylen Brown in his time in the league has dunked over Lebron, clapped in Currys face, flexed on Cousins and blew kisses at the 76ers bench. I think he has plenty of killer instinct.

Re: Purely Hypothetical: Would You Trade Tatum In Package For Greek Freak?
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2018, 05:35:23 PM »

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I would not trade Tatum for anyone because his value is the lowest it will ever be. And it's not just an age thing of rookies will always grow and become better. For example, I believe that Jaylen Browns value is the highest it will ever be right now. I don't consider him to be more than a good starter because he doesn't have the killer instinct to be the guy, but some GMs still think that he has star potential.

If it's Giannis for Tatum straight up in a hypothetical world where it's legal, sure. But you'd have to throw in picks, players, the kitchen sink. It's just not worth it.

I dont want to get off topic here but Jaylen Brown in his time in the league has dunked over Lebron, clapped in Currys face, flexed on Cousins and blew kisses at the 76ers bench. I think he has plenty of killer instinct.

And yet he's shooting well under league average in FGs % both 0-3 ft and 3-10 ft from rim. For someone as athletic as him, that's a red flag. I'm not talking about attitude. Lance Stephenson does that garbage as well. I'm talking about I have the ball and I'm going to take it down your throat.

I'm sorry to blow the dreams of all, but he's a very average offensive player so far. I'm seeing very little signs of superstar. I'd trade him in the package because some GM might be fooled in thinking he's a franchise player based on the handful of amazing plays he's done. He needs much more consistency to convince me.

Re: Purely Hypothetical: Would You Trade Tatum In Package For Greek Freak?
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2018, 05:43:29 PM »

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I would not trade Tatum for anyone because his value is the lowest it will ever be. And it's not just an age thing of rookies will always grow and become better. For example, I believe that Jaylen Browns value is the highest it will ever be right now. I don't consider him to be more than a good starter because he doesn't have the killer instinct to be the guy, but some GMs still think that he has star potential.

If it's Giannis for Tatum straight up in a hypothetical world where it's legal, sure. But you'd have to throw in picks, players, the kitchen sink. It's just not worth it.

I dont want to get off topic here but Jaylen Brown in his time in the league has dunked over Lebron, clapped in Currys face, flexed on Cousins and blew kisses at the 76ers bench. I think he has plenty of killer instinct.

And yet he's shooting well under league average in FGs % both 0-3 ft and 3-10 ft from rim. For someone as athletic as him, that's a red flag. I'm not talking about attitude. Lance Stephenson does that garbage as well. I'm talking about I have the ball and I'm going to take it down your throat.

I'm sorry to blow the dreams of all, but he's a very average offensive player so far. I'm seeing very little signs of superstar. I'd trade him in the package because some GM might be fooled in thinking he's a franchise player based on the handful of amazing plays he's done. He needs much more consistency to convince me.

Signs of superstar is really too high a bar to be fair when analyzing Jaylen Brown.  It's hard for me to look at a 21 yo who is averaging 14 ppg, has shown significant improvement from year 1 to year 2 and appears to have a very high defensive ceiling and not think he has all-star potential (which is a fairer bar).

Re: Purely Hypothetical: Would You Trade Tatum In Package For Greek Freak?
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2018, 06:05:11 PM »

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I would not trade Tatum for anyone because his value is the lowest it will ever be. And it's not just an age thing of rookies will always grow and become better. For example, I believe that Jaylen Browns value is the highest it will ever be right now. I don't consider him to be more than a good starter because he doesn't have the killer instinct to be the guy, but some GMs still think that he has star potential.

If it's Giannis for Tatum straight up in a hypothetical world where it's legal, sure. But you'd have to throw in picks, players, the kitchen sink. It's just not worth it.

I dont want to get off topic here but Jaylen Brown in his time in the league has dunked over Lebron, clapped in Currys face, flexed on Cousins and blew kisses at the 76ers bench. I think he has plenty of killer instinct.

And yet he's shooting well under league average in FGs % both 0-3 ft and 3-10 ft from rim. For someone as athletic as him, that's a red flag. I'm not talking about attitude. Lance Stephenson does that garbage as well. I'm talking about I have the ball and I'm going to take it down your throat.

I'm sorry to blow the dreams of all, but he's a very average offensive player so far. I'm seeing very little signs of superstar. I'd trade him in the package because some GM might be fooled in thinking he's a franchise player based on the handful of amazing plays he's done. He needs much more consistency to convince me.

He's shooting 63% from 0-3 feet, 26% from 3-10, 45% from 10-16, 47% from 16-3PT and 38% from 3PT.

He's only attempted 62 shots from 3-10 all year. Overall he's giving us 14 points on 11 FGA. Sure, superstar or franchise player is a lot to ask, but he's above average at age 21 and projects to a 20+ guy in his prime.
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Re: Purely Hypothetical: Would You Trade Tatum In Package For Greek Freak?
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2018, 06:16:41 PM »

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Yup. In a minute. But unless Giannis is making a complete mess of things for the Bucks with threats and demands of wanting out of Milwaukee, its not happening.

Feel the same way about Kawhi and San Antonio.

Yeah, as I said this is just a purely hypothetical scenario.

As for the "Kawhi drama", wouldn't surprise me if Pop just leaked that to the media to get some chuckles while eating popcorn and reading the reports and trade rumors  :laugh:
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Re: Purely Hypothetical: Would You Trade Tatum In Package For Greek Freak?
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2018, 06:45:52 PM »

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Re: Purely Hypothetical: Would You Trade Tatum In Package For Greek Freak?
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2018, 07:15:54 PM »

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Wow this poll looks one sided. At one point, it was 5 "yes" vs. 2 "No".

Now it's 26 "yes", 6 "no"  :P
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Re: Purely Hypothetical: Would You Trade Tatum In Package For Greek Freak?
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2018, 07:26:46 PM »

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I would not trade Tatum for anyone because his value is the lowest it will ever be. And it's not just an age thing of rookies will always grow and become better. For example, I believe that Jaylen Browns value is the highest it will ever be right now. I don't consider him to be more than a good starter because he doesn't have the killer instinct to be the guy, but some GMs still think that he has star potential.

If it's Giannis for Tatum straight up in a hypothetical world where it's legal, sure. But you'd have to throw in picks, players, the kitchen sink. It's just not worth it.
Brown's value is as high as it ever will be?
Half way through his second year?
At 21?
After being about the most improved player in the league this year?
After tremendously improving his defense, outside shooting, handle, aggressiveness, and ability to finish in traffic?

Wow! Talk about a hot take!