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Re: Al Horford has been mediocre. He doesnt deserve his salary
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2018, 12:56:23 PM »

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And if you're wondering, shooting 44% from 3 while averaging 8 rebounds a game where Al Horford is currently hovering?

It's only been done once in @NBA history (Troy Murphy, 2009), and never on a winning team

Put Hayward next to Horford and Kyrie, and watch him lead in the league in assists as a center...

Oh wait...

He does!

Without checking I can confidently say that Al Horford does NOT lead the league in assists. If you are saying he leads centers in assists then I would believe it.

It's funny that you're so confident that my comment was wrong when it clearly says center.

You said he leads the league in assists as a center which is different than leads centers in assists. So I guess that is funny.


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Re: Al Horford has been mediocre. He doesnt deserve his salary
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2018, 12:58:00 PM »

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And if you're wondering, shooting 44% from 3 while averaging 8 rebounds a game where Al Horford is currently hovering?

It's only been done once in @NBA history (Troy Murphy, 2009), and never on a winning team

Put Hayward next to Horford and Kyrie, and watch him lead in the league in assists as a center...

Oh wait...

He does!

Without checking I can confidently say that Al Horford does NOT lead the league in assists. If you are saying he leads centers in assists then I would believe it.

It's funny that you're so confident that my comment was wrong when it clearly says center.

You said he leads the league in assists as a center which is different than leads centers in assists. So I guess that is funny.

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Re: Al Horford has been mediocre. He doesnt deserve his salary
« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2018, 01:07:27 PM »

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And if you're wondering, shooting 44% from 3 while averaging 8 rebounds a game where Al Horford is currently hovering?

It's only been done once in @NBA history (Troy Murphy, 2009), and never on a winning team

Put Hayward next to Horford and Kyrie, and watch him lead in the league in assists as a center...

Oh wait...

He does!

Without checking I can confidently say that Al Horford does NOT lead the league in assists. If you are saying he leads centers in assists then I would believe it.

It's funny that you're so confident that my comment was wrong when it clearly says center.
you didn't actually say he is the leading among centers for assists.  You said he was leading the league in assists and then stated his position as a center.  It was clear what you meant, but you didn't actually say that. 

The thing is, Horford still plays an awful lot at PF, and that is where he starts.  ESPN doesn't even have him listed as a center, but rather a PF.  Either way Draymond Green averages more assists than Horford, and Green plays a lot at center (less than Horford, but still a not so insignificant amount of time). 
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Re: Al Horford has been mediocre. He doesnt deserve his salary
« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2018, 01:18:22 PM »

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And if you're wondering, shooting 44% from 3 while averaging 8 rebounds a game where Al Horford is currently hovering?

It's only been done once in @NBA history (Troy Murphy, 2009), and never on a winning team

Put Hayward next to Horford and Kyrie, and watch him lead in the league in assists as a center...

Oh wait...

He does!

Without checking I can confidently say that Al Horford does NOT lead the league in assists. If you are saying he leads centers in assists then I would believe it.

It's funny that you're so confident that my comment was wrong when it clearly says center.
you didn't actually say he is the leading among centers for assists.  You said he was leading the league in assists and then stated his position as a center.  It was clear what you meant, but you didn't actually say that. 

The thing is, Horford still plays an awful lot at PF, and that is where he starts.  ESPN doesn't even have him listed as a center, but rather a PF.  Either way Draymond Green averages more assists than Horford, and Green plays a lot at center (less than Horford, but still a not so insignificant amount of time).

Yeah I mistyped it.

I apologize to hodgy for being snippy.

Horford will eventually evolve to become a great playmaking 5 though. Another year and he will no longer be able to switch on faster 4s. I also think Green gets inflated assists due to great shooters. Switch Horford with Green and I think he would have similar, if not more than Green personally.
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Re: Al Horford has been mediocre. He doesnt deserve his salary
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2018, 01:47:31 PM »

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And if you're wondering, shooting 44% from 3 while averaging 8 rebounds a game where Al Horford is currently hovering?

It's only been done once in @NBA history (Troy Murphy, 2009), and never on a winning team

Put Hayward next to Horford and Kyrie, and watch him lead in the league in assists as a center...

Oh wait...

He does!

Without checking I can confidently say that Al Horford does NOT lead the league in assists. If you are saying he leads centers in assists then I would believe it.

It's funny that you're so confident that my comment was wrong when it clearly says center.
you didn't actually say he is the leading among centers for assists.  You said he was leading the league in assists and then stated his position as a center.  It was clear what you meant, but you didn't actually say that. 

The thing is, Horford still plays an awful lot at PF, and that is where he starts.  ESPN doesn't even have him listed as a center, but rather a PF.  Either way Draymond Green averages more assists than Horford, and Green plays a lot at center (less than Horford, but still a not so insignificant amount of time).

Yeah I mistyped it.

I apologize to hodgy for being snippy.

Horford will eventually evolve to become a great playmaking 5 though. Another year and he will no longer be able to switch on faster 4s. I also think Green gets inflated assists due to great shooters. Switch Horford with Green and I think he would have similar, if not more than Green personally.

Agree with the bolded statement above. No problem on snippiness.



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Re: Al Horford has been mediocre. He doesnt deserve his salary
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2018, 01:54:00 AM »

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This over reaction of getting rid of a main cog on this team simply because he isn't a #1A scoring option, when you signed him to be a #3 or #4 scoring option is pretty ridiculous. Horford has played a whole 5 minutes with the Kyrie-Hayward 1-2 punch. He is here to be the ball moving focal point of the offense, the defensive communicator of the defense and give you 11 shots a game with 7 rebounds and 6 assists while playing great defense.

I think he has played amazing this year. You just don't trade him because he isn't Hayward offensively. You accept what happens this year and let the team be what they will be next year with everyone healthy and playing their role.

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Re: Al Horford has been mediocre. He doesnt deserve his salary
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2018, 06:47:33 AM »

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Al brings a lot of intangibles to the team and leadership that are not measured in stats.

Re: Al Horford has been mediocre. He doesnt deserve his salary
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2018, 09:30:29 AM »

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Alís been great this year and even his bad games have been good enough. If thereís anything to blame itís poor team defense and a bunch of careless turnovers. Morris looked bad being in the starting lineup. I hope Baynes gets healthy because he does a lot of things right.

Also, our bench has been atrocious. You just know that the bench is going to give any lead up or let a deficit balloon. It seems like itís been the rarer case that the bench holds the fort.
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Re: Al Horford has been mediocre. He doesnt deserve his salary
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2018, 09:34:42 AM »

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Re: Al Horford has been mediocre. He doesnt deserve his salary
« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2018, 12:10:41 AM »

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Maybe (maybe) it would be worth it to trade him for another star big such as LaMarcus Aldridge or Marc Gasol. If not getting another star back in return, why trade him?

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« Reply #40 on: January 28, 2018, 12:15:56 AM »

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Horford is going to shine when Hayward returns. Horford is a 3rd banana, not a 2nd

Re: Al Horford has been mediocre. He doesnt deserve his salary
« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2018, 12:31:29 AM »

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Horford is going to shine when Hayward returns. Horford is a 3rd banana, not a 2nd
He also makes all the other banana's more ripe ;D
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« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2018, 12:41:39 AM »

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without Horford C's are toast.  Great player....great playoffs last year.

Re: Al Horford has been mediocre. He doesnt deserve his salary
« Reply #43 on: January 28, 2018, 12:44:05 AM »

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Sadly itís really the inconsistency of our young wings that is responsible for this losing streak
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Re: Al Horford has been mediocre. He doesnt deserve his salary
« Reply #44 on: January 28, 2018, 12:48:04 AM »

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Sadly itís really the inconsistency of our young wings that is responsible for this losing streak
JB seems to play down to the competition very often, and Tatum has hit a wall. Definitely big factors
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