Al Horford has been mediocre. He doesnt deserve his salary

[rondofan1255]

All Horford series Team MVP if C’s win the series!!!

I think Jaylen Brown might have something to say about that before all is said and done

That would be swell too.

[JSD]

I think the problem people have is that Horford is paid about what he's worth, while some superstars in the league are vastly underpaid as MAX players. Without a MAX on players salary, someone like Lebron or Durant would be making $80-90 Million a year. These type of max players skew the fan perspective of what a MAX player really is.

[mctyson]

This post is not aging well.

[Moranis]

I think the problem people have is that Horford is paid about what he's worth, while some superstars in the league are vastly underpaid as MAX players. Without a MAX on players salary, someone like Lebron or Durant would be making $80-90 Million a year. These type of max players skew the fan perspective of what a MAX player really is.

Horford has the 12th highest salary in the league. He isn't the 12th best player and isn't all that close to that.

[RockinRyA]

I think the problem people have is that Horford is paid about what he's worth, while some superstars in the league are vastly underpaid as MAX players. Without a MAX on players salary, someone like Lebron or Durant would be making $80-90 Million a year. These type of max players skew the fan perspective of what a MAX player really is.

Horford has the 12th highest salary in the league. He isn't the 12th best player and isn't all that close to that.

Its close once you ignore the players on rookie deals. Counting stats isnt everything, and Horford is such a rarity. You need guys who will enable other players to do what they do best, Horford is that guy. You cannot put 5 guys who all need the ball in their hands at the same time.

Between defending Cavs, Sixers and continued downplaying of Celtics players and staff, I have serious doubts you are a legit Celtics fan.

[Celtics4ever]

Between defending Cavs, Sixers and continued downplaying of Celtics players and staff, I have serious doubts you are a legit Celtics fan.

He has been here forever, so I think he is,  but it is clear that he does like other teams.  Celtics are my only NBA team that I root for, but each of us is different, free country and all that stuff...

A lot of what Al does is not measured in the stat lines.  One thing he does is make every one else better.

[Green-18]

I still get a laugh out of everyone who p*sses & moans about Horford & his contract.

I am grateful when they do. They just identify themselves as someone whose opinion about anything in basketball can be easily dismissed.

I've said it before in this thread. We're getting exactly what we should have expected from production, professionalism and leadership standpoints. If anyone had different expectations then that's their problem.

Well put.  Horford is like an extension of Stevens when it comes to leadership on and off the court.  He is a stabilizing presence for such a young group of players.  Horford can anchor the defense, post up when needed, hit 3's consistently, guard perimeter players, and run the offense.  What makes it more impressive is that he does all of these things simultaneously while making the right basketball play almost every time.  There aren't many selfless players in the league that can accomplish all of these things.  Simply put, Horford impacts winning at a VERY high level. 

I don't care that Al is at a stage where he needs to scale back throughout the course of an 82 game season.  It's clear that he can still deliver the goods come playoff time.   

[kozlodoev]

I think the problem people have is that Horford is paid about what he's worth, while some superstars in the league are vastly underpaid as MAX players. Without a MAX on players salary, someone like Lebron or Durant would be making $80-90 Million a year. These type of max players skew the fan perspective of what a MAX player really is.

Horford has the 12th highest salary in the league. He isn't the 12th best player and isn't all that close to that.

Its close once you ignore the players on rookie deals. Counting stats isnt everything, and Horford is such a rarity. You need guys who will enable other players to do what they do best, Horford is that guy. You cannot put 5 guys who all need the ball in their hands at the same time.

Between defending Cavs, Sixers and continued downplaying of Celtics players and staff, I have serious doubts you are a legit Celtics fan.

Now might be a good time to re-read the forum rules. 

[tonydelk]

Al Horford is an all-star.  He's is a 1st team Defensive type player.  People have issues if he doesn't average 20 and 10 to justify his contract.  Without Al this team is not as good as it is.  The reason why they are still playing at such a high level is because of Horford.  It doesn't show on the stats but he is vital to our defensive identity.  I love Horford and will never complain about his production because like Marcus Smart there are things he does that do not show up on the stat sheet that are vital to a teams success.  Go C's!

[celticsclay]

So if Horford is the 12th highest paid player and their are obviously a few people that are younger and will get paid higher when they are older and eligible for more, he is getting pretty close to where he should be. He was an allstar so really a top 25 player. Plus he is probably making all defensive second team. You got a guy that is a top 10 defensive player making the allstar game and performing in the playoffs. What is to complain about?

[PhoSita]

Every single season of Al Horford's career that he has played >60 games, he's been the best or second best player on his team, and his team has (a) made the playoffs and (b) either won a playoff series or been competitive against a quality first round opponent.

Best or second best player on a playoff team that wins one or more rounds in the playoffs, year after year.

Even if you're a traditionalist, how is that not max contract worthy?  I think people lose their minds sometimes when they get caught up in salary numbers.

[greece66]

I think the problem people have is that Horford is paid about what he's worth, while some superstars in the league are vastly underpaid as MAX players. Without a MAX on players salary, someone like Lebron or Durant would be making $80-90 Million a year. These type of max players skew the fan perspective of what a MAX player really is.

Horford has the 12th highest salary in the league. He isn't the 12th best player and isn't all that close to that.

Its close once you ignore the players on rookie deals. Counting stats isnt everything, and Horford is such a rarity. You need guys who will enable other players to do what they do best, Horford is that guy. You cannot put 5 guys who all need the ball in their hands at the same time.

Between defending Cavs, Sixers and continued downplaying of Celtics players and staff, I have serious doubts you are a legit Celtics fan.

Now might be a good time to re-read the forum rules.

Yep.

And in any case it's not very nice to a) revive a thread to tell the world someone was wrong about something and b) doubt he is a true fan.

[celticsclay]

I think the problem people have is that Horford is paid about what he's worth, while some superstars in the league are vastly underpaid as MAX players. Without a MAX on players salary, someone like Lebron or Durant would be making $80-90 Million a year. These type of max players skew the fan perspective of what a MAX player really is.

Horford has the 12th highest salary in the league. He isn't the 12th best player and isn't all that close to that.

Its close once you ignore the players on rookie deals. Counting stats isnt everything, and Horford is such a rarity. You need guys who will enable other players to do what they do best, Horford is that guy. You cannot put 5 guys who all need the ball in their hands at the same time.

Between defending Cavs, Sixers and continued downplaying of Celtics players and staff, I have serious doubts you are a legit Celtics fan.

I don't really get what people want Horford to do to be better.

[Big333223]

I think the problem people have is that Horford is paid about what he's worth, while some superstars in the league are vastly underpaid as MAX players. Without a MAX on players salary, someone like Lebron or Durant would be making $80-90 Million a year. These type of max players skew the fan perspective of what a MAX player really is.

Horford has the 12th highest salary in the league. He isn't the 12th best player and isn't all that close to that.

Its close once you ignore the players on rookie deals. Counting stats isnt everything, and Horford is such a rarity. You need guys who will enable other players to do what they do best, Horford is that guy. You cannot put 5 guys who all need the ball in their hands at the same time.

Between defending Cavs, Sixers and continued downplaying of Celtics players and staff, I have serious doubts you are a legit Celtics fan.

I don't really get what people want Horford to do to be better.

It's the raw counting numbers. That's all that matter to some people. If he was garbage and the Celtics were losing games but he was putting up big point and rebounding totals these same people would love him, is my guess.

[rondofan1255]

I think the problem people have is that Horford is paid about what he's worth, while some superstars in the league are vastly underpaid as MAX players. Without a MAX on players salary, someone like Lebron or Durant would be making $80-90 Million a year. These type of max players skew the fan perspective of what a MAX player really is.

Horford has the 12th highest salary in the league. He isn't the 12th best player and isn't all that close to that.

Its close once you ignore the players on rookie deals. Counting stats isnt everything, and Horford is such a rarity. You need guys who will enable other players to do what they do best, Horford is that guy. You cannot put 5 guys who all need the ball in their hands at the same time.

Between defending Cavs, Sixers and continued downplaying of Celtics players and staff, I have serious doubts you are a legit Celtics fan.

I don't really get what people want Horford to do to be better.

His PPG would need to be 18-20 at least. After all, Drew Bledsoe averaged 17.7 PPG this year and 21.1 PPG last year.