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DeWayne Dedmon available.
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http://hoopshype.com/2018/01/16/dewayne-dedmon-nba-trade-rumors-bucks-cavs-hawks/

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The Atlanta Hawks will reportedly make starting center Dewayne Dedmon available for acquisition before the upcoming NBA trade deadline.

Mark Deeks provided details on what he learned about the 7-footer who played college basketball for the USC Trojans (via GiveMeSport):

“The Atlanta Hawks are trying to trade Dewayne Dedmon. While it appears to not have been reported prior, it nonetheless will (or should) come as no surprise to Hawks fans to know that.”

This dude is athletic.

He can rebound.

He can run.

He can defend.

And he can shoot three's.

Should we?
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Re: DeWayne Dedmon available.
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2018, 01:01:46 PM »

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Signed through next year, so can't be had for the Hayward exception...
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2018, 01:22:19 PM »

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We're okay at center.  Horford, Baynes, a little bit of Theis.  That's solid.  I like Dedmon well enough but I don't think he makes sense for us at this time.

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I agree with Aztar that we don't necessarily need him because our centers are solid.  I do like Dedmon and prefer him to guys like Noel, however.

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I agree with Aztar that we don't necessarily need him because our centers are solid.  I do like Dedmon and prefer him to guys like Noel, however.

While our centers are "solid," Davis and Boogie torched them, showing we are weak against stronger centers.  One wrong playoff matchup and we could be done.  I'm intrigued by Dedmon as a long, defensively capable big getting 10 and 8 in 22 MPG, but definitely not overpaying for him.  I'd consider a 2nd rounder.

That said, I don't think Dedmon would have been able to stop Davis, but he does give us a different look. 
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So why did Atlanta sign him in the first place? How often does a player, as more than just a throw-in or for cap purposes, get traded in the same season that he signed a contract?
It doesn't make sense. What exactly did they expect out of him? I take it he was a big part of Atlanta winning a few games recently. It's why he gots to go!

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Would have to move players to get him, no DPE. I guess it depends what else is out there.

1) Yabu + Larkin for Dedmon
2) draft pick for Lou Williams

Not sure we want rentals, but those would be some pretty strong role player additions for scraps.
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Signed through next year, so can't be had for the Hayward exception...

Next year is a player option, so can be if he chooses to waive it as part of the trade.
2018 Mock Trade Deadline:

Pelicans: Davis, Holiday, Vucevic, Rondo, Clarkson, Nance, Hart, Moore, Ilyasova, Ajinca, Hill, Miller, Jackson, Dotson, Dakari Johnson

Warriors:  KD, Steph, Klay, Draymomd, Iggy, Zaza, Young, Livingston, McGee, West, McCaw, Jones, Casspi, Jones, Looney

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Would have to move players to get him, no DPE. I guess it depends what else is out there.

1) Yabu + Larkin for Dedmon
2) draft pick for Lou Williams

Not sure we want rentals, but those would be some pretty strong role player additions for scraps.

Unless the Clips are blowing it up, we're not getting Williams for picks. Dude is tearing it up. And they've been on  a streak. So unless they lose 90% of their games from now till all star break, doubt it would happen.

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Would have to move players to get him, no DPE. I guess it depends what else is out there.

1) Yabu + Larkin for Dedmon
2) draft pick for Lou Williams

Not sure we want rentals, but those would be some pretty strong role player additions for scraps.

Unless the Clips are blowing it up, we're not getting Williams for picks. Dude is tearing it up. And they've been on  a streak. So unless they lose 90% of their games from now till all star break, doubt it would happen.

Probably true, but only because the Clippers are incompetent. They're a 1st round exit at best and he's an expiring deal at the absolute peak of his value.
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Would have to move players to get him, no DPE. I guess it depends what else is out there.

1) Yabu + Larkin for Dedmon
2) draft pick for Lou Williams

Not sure we want rentals, but those would be some pretty strong role player additions for scraps.

Unless the Clips are blowing it up, we're not getting Williams for picks. Dude is tearing it up. And they've been on  a streak. So unless they lose 90% of their games from now till all star break, doubt it would happen.

Probably true, but only because the Clippers are incompetent. They're a 1st round exit at best and he's an expiring deal at the absolute peak of his value.

I wouldn’t be shocked if the Clippers made it to the second round.  Ultimately I think they’ll be a 5 or 6 seed, and Minnesota is very beatable if they draw that matchup (Wolves are good, but they’re still very inconsistent from game to game, and it will be the first playoffs for many on that team).
2018 Mock Trade Deadline:

Pelicans: Davis, Holiday, Vucevic, Rondo, Clarkson, Nance, Hart, Moore, Ilyasova, Ajinca, Hill, Miller, Jackson, Dotson, Dakari Johnson

Warriors:  KD, Steph, Klay, Draymomd, Iggy, Zaza, Young, Livingston, McGee, West, McCaw, Jones, Casspi, Jones, Looney

Google for picks.

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Would have to move players to get him, no DPE. I guess it depends what else is out there.

1) Yabu + Larkin for Dedmon
2) draft pick for Lou Williams

Not sure we want rentals, but those would be some pretty strong role player additions for scraps.

Unless the Clips are blowing it up, we're not getting Williams for picks. Dude is tearing it up. And they've been on  a streak. So unless they lose 90% of their games from now till all star break, doubt it would happen.

Probably true, but only because the Clippers are incompetent. They're a 1st round exit at best and he's an expiring deal at the absolute peak of his value.

I wouldn’t be shocked if the Clippers made it to the second round.  Ultimately I think they’ll be a 5 or 6 seed, and Minnesota is very beatable if they draw that matchup (Wolves are good, but they’re still very inconsistent from game to game, and it will be the first playoffs for many on that team).

Yes I was going to say I could see them beating anyone besides a healthy Warriors or Rockets team. They have been very very good when their whole team is healthy.

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I agree with Aztar that we don't necessarily need him because our centers are solid.  I do like Dedmon and prefer him to guys like Noel, however.

While our centers are "solid," Davis and Boogie torched them, showing we are weak against stronger centers.  One wrong playoff matchup and we could be done.  I'm intrigued by Dedmon as a long, defensively capable big getting 10 and 8 in 22 MPG, but definitely not overpaying for him.  I'd consider a 2nd rounder.

That said, I don't think Dedmon would have been able to stop Davis, but he does give us a different look.
What team in the East do you see presenting the same problem as NOP?

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I agree with Aztar that we don't necessarily need him because our centers are solid.  I do like Dedmon and prefer him to guys like Noel, however.

While our centers are "solid," Davis and Boogie torched them, showing we are weak against stronger centers.  One wrong playoff matchup and we could be done.  I'm intrigued by Dedmon as a long, defensively capable big getting 10 and 8 in 22 MPG, but definitely not overpaying for him.  I'd consider a 2nd rounder.

That said, I don't think Dedmon would have been able to stop Davis, but he does give us a different look.
What team in the East do you see presenting the same problem as NOP?

Good question.  Short answer is "None" but longer answer is: I'd be worried about any center going off inside against us AND out-rebounding our entire team: Drummond, Embiid, Myles Turner, even Giannis and Whiteside could out perform our center for an entire series.  Washington, Milwaukee, Toronto, and Indiana's outside/driving game could swing games too if we can't stop them in the paint.
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I agree with Aztar that we don't necessarily need him because our centers are solid.  I do like Dedmon and prefer him to guys like Noel, however.

While our centers are "solid," Davis and Boogie torched them, showing we are weak against stronger centers.  One wrong playoff matchup and we could be done.  I'm intrigued by Dedmon as a long, defensively capable big getting 10 and 8 in 22 MPG, but definitely not overpaying for him.  I'd consider a 2nd rounder.

That said, I don't think Dedmon would have been able to stop Davis, but he does give us a different look.
What team in the East do you see presenting the same problem as NOP?

Good question.  Short answer is "None" but longer answer is: I'd be worried about any center going off inside against us AND out-rebounding our entire team: Drummond, Embiid, Myles Turner, even Giannis and Whiteside could out perform our center for an entire series.  Washington, Milwaukee, Toronto, and Indiana's outside/driving game could swing games too if we can't stop them in the paint.
So adding a 3rd center to the roster will solve those issues? I understand the underlying premise of your concern. But I think the Cs have held out pretty well so far this season against bigs with the Horford/Baynes/Theis rotation. I agree that maybe they could you an end of bench guy for depth in case anyone gets hurt but I dont think adding another big to a team that doesnt really utulize them will really do anything.

I do like Dedmon though and hoped they would somehow be able to grab him last offseason (before Baynes happened). I think he would be a good fit on this team (style wise).