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Re: IT asks Celtics NOT to play video tribute on 2/11
« Reply #60 on: January 17, 2018, 06:38:17 AM »

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Iím really trying to understand all the ďPaul is insecure blah..blah...blah..Ē Do you guys think the Lakers organization would have attempted a stunt like that on Kobeís night? No! Matter of fact the fans wouldnít have it. I like IT, but letís be for real about his contributions vs Pierceís..itís not even a debate.

Any other former player would get called out if they made the requests that IT did.

Exactly. 

And quite frankly, its crazy to me that people are claiming he's insecure. If that were true, than Banner 17 wouldn't be in the rafters because his ego wouldn't have been able to share the light with KG and Ray.

Guys, this is one the most stories franchises in all of sports. Getting your number in the rafters next to Russell, Bird, Cousy - that's a heck of a career acheivement. To etch your name amongst those greats, it's very likely the most special moment of his career. Paul has earned the right be selfish, IMO.

Yes, and you would think that the enormity of having his numbers in the rafters, and getting his own post-game ceremony, would be enough. Instead, he demanded to be treated like Kobe, with not only his own ceremony, but an entire night dedicated to him. He refused to give up a couple of minutes of Jumbotron time to honor another, lesser Celtics hero.

Itís a far cry from guys like Cousy and Tommy, who shared their ceremony with other players.

It just makes it look like Pierce has a really fragile ego.

This is really a bad comparison. Tommy, Bob and others with them won championship together. Of course, they'll share spotlights. If IT have won Celtics a championship, then he have a case but he didn't so the point is moot.

Even Antoine have better case since he's the one who actually played alongside Paul during the 2002 ECF run and a longer Celtic tenure than IT ever had.

Cooz shared a ceremony with Ed Macauley, who only played 6 seasons here and never won a title. He did lead his St. Louis team to a championship, though, beating the Celtics in the Finals.

By todayís standard, Cousy was massively disrespected.


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Re: IT asks Celtics NOT to play video tribute on 2/11
« Reply #61 on: January 17, 2018, 07:32:43 AM »

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Why does the video tribute HAVE to happen on 2/11? Why not next year, or in the playoffs this year (if they matchup with CLE). It sounds ridiculous to say that there's only one date that would work for IT.

Also, can we remember any player being so involved in when he is applauded, esp after 2 years of work? This reminds me of the MTV show where the 16yo girl throws a tantrum when their $100k sweet 16 party isn't up to their standard.

At some point IT should dump the chip on his shoulder and replace it with gratitude for his lot in life. His agent is doing him a disservice by allowing him to opine in such a selfish manner. This does not make IT look good. If Pierce looks selfish it is not that big of a deal- he already landed his big contract. IT is the one that wants the Brinks trunk. He should be focused exclusively on getting back to being a valuable NBA player.

C'mon man!

Re: IT asks Celtics NOT to play video tribute on 2/11
« Reply #62 on: January 17, 2018, 07:41:46 AM »

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It's the right move by IT.  Classy.  Let Paul Pierce have his tribute night to himself.

When is the next date Cleveland will play at Boston or is that the last one this year?

Re: IT asks Celtics NOT to play video tribute on 2/11
« Reply #63 on: January 17, 2018, 07:46:47 AM »

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Incredible how petty IT has looked during this entire saga. I'm glad they are not giving him a tribute on that day. The C's screwed this up too. They should have just given him his tribute in his first game back.

Re: IT asks Celtics NOT to play video tribute on 2/11
« Reply #64 on: January 17, 2018, 09:31:25 AM »

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Rondo also fired a shot at IT implying that he doesn't deserve the video tribute:
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Re: IT asks Celtics NOT to play video tribute on 2/11
« Reply #65 on: January 17, 2018, 09:32:58 AM »

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Rondo also fired a shot at IT implying that he doesn't deserve the video tribute:


Ouch. But true.
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Re: IT asks Celtics NOT to play video tribute on 2/11
« Reply #66 on: January 17, 2018, 09:39:14 AM »

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Rondo also fired a shot at IT implying that he doesn't deserve the video tribute:


Ouch. But true.
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Re: IT asks Celtics NOT to play video tribute on 2/11
« Reply #67 on: January 17, 2018, 09:46:54 AM »

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Rondo also fired a shot at IT implying that he doesn't deserve the video tribute:


Except ... Rondo is 100% wrong about what is being 'celebrated' here.  Sure, we don't hang conference titles.  We DO however celebrate players who entertained us and are fondly remembered by the fans, even if they didn't win titles.  We've done this with dozens of players.  This is fact.  Jae Crowder just got one.  Avery Bradley just got one.

A video tribute to Thomas by the Celtics would not be a celebration of reaching the ECF.  It would be a celebration of how well Thomas played while here.  Nothing more and nothing less.

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Re: IT asks Celtics NOT to play video tribute on 2/11
« Reply #68 on: January 17, 2018, 10:05:36 AM »

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Rondo also fired a shot at IT implying that he doesn't deserve the video tribute:


Ouch. But true.
Love how itís WE.!!

After he quit on the team, skipped games and stopped playing defense he doesnít have a lot of room to critique others. 

IT loved playing here and gave his heart and soul to this team. Thatís what weíd be celebrating. 

If anybody didnít deserve a tribute video, itís Rondo, based upon the way that he dogged it on his way out of town.


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Re: IT asks Celtics NOT to play video tribute on 2/11
« Reply #69 on: January 17, 2018, 10:10:42 AM »

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Cooz shared a ceremony with Ed Macauley, who only played 6 seasons here and never won a title. He did lead his St. Louis team to a championship, though, beating the Celtics in the Finals.

By todayís standard, Cousy was massively disrespected.
Ed Macauley who made the all-star game in every season he played for the Celtics and wore a Celtics uniform in nearly 65% of his NBA games. Not to mention that he was teammates with Cousy in each of those 6 seasons.

Yup, pretty much the same situation as Thomas and Pierce.
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Re: IT asks Celtics NOT to play video tribute on 2/11
« Reply #70 on: January 17, 2018, 10:13:33 AM »

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Cooz shared a ceremony with Ed Macauley, who only played 6 seasons here and never won a title. He did lead his St. Louis team to a championship, though, beating the Celtics in the Finals.

By todayís standard, Cousy was massively disrespected.
Ed Macauley who made the all-star game in every season he played for the Celtics and wore a Celtics uniform in nearly 65% of his NBA games. Not to mention that he was teammates with Cousy in each of those 6 seasons.

Yup, pretty much the same situation as Thomas and Pierce.  ::) ::) ::)

I assume you saw the post I responded to, which spoke specifically about winning titles.  Thatís why you intentionally declined to quote it, to misrepresent what I said.  Here it is again:

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This is really a bad comparison. Tommy, Bob and others with them won championship together. Of course, they'll share spotlights. If IT have won Celtics a championship, then he have a case but he didn't so the point is moot.

You usually do a little better, koz. ::) ::) ::)


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Re: IT asks Celtics NOT to play video tribute on 2/11
« Reply #71 on: January 17, 2018, 10:20:51 AM »

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Rondo also fired a shot at IT implying that he doesn't deserve the video tribute:


Except ... Rondo is 100% wrong about what is being 'celebrated' here.  Sure, we don't hang conference titles.  We DO however celebrate players who entertained us and are fondly remembered by the fans, even if they didn't win titles.  We've done this with dozens of players.  This is fact.  Jae Crowder just got one.  Avery Bradley just got one.

A video tribute to Thomas by the Celtics would not be a celebration of reaching the ECF.  It would be a celebration of how well Thomas played while here.  Nothing more and nothing less.
It was 2.5 seasons though.  He doesn't deserve a video tribute.  Neither did Crowder, Bradley, or Olynyk.  This video tribute nonsense has reached comical levels. 

Re: IT asks Celtics NOT to play video tribute on 2/11
« Reply #72 on: January 17, 2018, 10:37:20 AM »

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It was 2.5 seasons though.  He doesn't deserve a video tribute.  Neither did Crowder, Bradley, or Olynyk.  This video tribute nonsense has reached comical levels.

What do you think the minimum threshold should be to earn a video tribute?

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Re: IT asks Celtics NOT to play video tribute on 2/11
« Reply #73 on: January 17, 2018, 10:46:03 AM »

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It was 2.5 seasons though.  He doesn't deserve a video tribute.  Neither did Crowder, Bradley, or Olynyk.  This video tribute nonsense has reached comical levels.

What do you think the minimum threshold should be to earn a video tribute?

Someone that comes of as grateful, instead of someone acting like a little b*tch. IT has had multiple quotes since he has left which make me scratch my head. Is he trying to get back at an ex-gf, or is he trying to win a championship and get a big contract? I really can't tell what his motives are by his words.

Pierce has the luxury to be petty. 1) He doesn't need another contract. 2) He's one of the best Celtics ever. 3) He won a championship.

I think there should be one criterion: the player should be accepting of a tribute. If not, move on. IT didn't control his departure so he wanted control of this. Like a jilted lover. I can smell his insecurity from over a thousand miles away. It's not a good smell.

Re: IT asks Celtics NOT to play video tribute on 2/11
« Reply #74 on: January 17, 2018, 10:46:24 AM »

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Cooz shared a ceremony with Ed Macauley, who only played 6 seasons here and never won a title. He did lead his St. Louis team to a championship, though, beating the Celtics in the Finals.

By todayís standard, Cousy was massively disrespected.
Ed Macauley who made the all-star game in every season he played for the Celtics and wore a Celtics uniform in nearly 65% of his NBA games. Not to mention that he was teammates with Cousy in each of those 6 seasons.

Yup, pretty much the same situation as Thomas and Pierce.  ::) ::) ::)

I assume you saw the post I responded to, which spoke specifically about winning titles.  Thatís why you intentionally declined to quote it, to misrepresent what I said.  Here it is again:

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This is really a bad comparison. Tommy, Bob and others with them won championship together. Of course, they'll share spotlights. If IT have won Celtics a championship, then he have a case but he didn't so the point is moot.

You usually do a little better, koz. ::) ::) ::)
A little, but surely not much. And my point still stands. If you want to argue semantics about whether winning titles and just winning/playing together are two substantially different, be my guest. But I think you can do a bit better, too. Everyone here understands why honoring Jim O'Brien and Paul Pierce together makes sense (to give one example), and honoring Jim O'Brien and Garnett, not so much.

In my mind, there is a distinct difference between the joint honoring of guys who played and won together is not the same like slapping the tribute of a guy who had a cup of tea with the team onto the night of an all-time great. Even if it was the finest tea in the history of the team.

Additionally, Thomas isn't getting any style points for how he handled this. Maybe pick up the phone and call the team's FO? I'm pretty sure telephones still exist, and the whole situation would have probably been sorted out in half the time with a quarter of the publicity. But given how much he's tweeted about the situation, perhaps the team should just tweet the video tribute @ him and and call it a day.
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