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So, no one on the team has a clue regarding which guys (plural) he is talking about, but it’s all on IT?
Exactly. It's like people forget there were locker room issues in Cleveland this year before Thomas even returned to the floor. This is something that has been going on since October.
I have to agree. Jumping to the conclusion that after just three games IT is the one person that Lue is talking about is unfair to IT and probably wrong. Isaiah hasn't even had time to acclimate himself to the team in game situations yet.

I can't believe that no one is discussing Thompson, Wade, Smith, or even Lebron.

I don't see where the "agenda" narrative would come from with those guys, though. With IT there's a clear "agenda" that can be pinpointed, but what would that mean for the other guys? This is especially true given the context of Lue's quote talking about sharing the basketball offensively, which is in line with what IT's "agenda" would be.

The only other guy that I could see Lue targeting directly would be Lebron, given the report from Vardon regarding the team being unhappy with Lebron potentially being selfish with his passes. However, given their relationship it's hard for me to see Lue targeting Lebron via the media in that manner, even implicitly.
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Cavs are crushing the Pacers right now. Looks like they responded to Lue's comments well.

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So, no one on the team has a clue regarding which guys (plural) he is talking about, but it’s all on IT?
Exactly. It's like people forget there were locker room issues in Cleveland this year before Thomas even returned to the floor. This is something that has been going on since October.
I have to agree. Jumping to the conclusion that after just three games IT is the one person that Lue is talking about is unfair to IT and probably wrong. Isaiah hasn't even had time to acclimate himself to the team in game situations yet.

I can't believe that no one is discussing Thompson, Wade, Smith, or even Lebron.

I don't see where the "agenda" narrative would come from with those guys, though. With IT there's a clear "agenda" that can be pinpointed, but what would that mean for the other guys? This is especially true given the context of Lue's quote talking about sharing the basketball offensively, which is in line with what IT's "agenda" would be.

The only other guy that I could see Lue targeting directly would be Lebron, given the report from Vardon regarding the team being unhappy with Lebron potentially being selfish with his passes. However, given their relationship it's hard for me to see Lue targeting Lebron via the media in that manner, even implicitly.

And yet, Shams Charania says that the Cavs want IT to shoot more, not less, and that they’re happy with his progress.

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Around the Cavaliers, there are no worries: Thomas will find his way, but must continue to be aggressive. There had been moments he passed when teammates expected him to shoot, almost second-guessing his shot selection rather than sticking to his gut and true game.

So, IT’s “agenda” seems to be a CelticsBlog driven narrative, not a real one.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2018, 08:01:16 PM by Roy H. »


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So, no one on the team has a clue regarding which guys (plural) he is talking about, but it’s all on IT?
Exactly. It's like people forget there were locker room issues in Cleveland this year before Thomas even returned to the floor. This is something that has been going on since October.
I have to agree. Jumping to the conclusion that after just three games IT is the one person that Lue is talking about is unfair to IT and probably wrong. Isaiah hasn't even had time to acclimate himself to the team in game situations yet.

I can't believe that no one is discussing Thompson, Wade, Smith, or even Lebron.

I don't see where the "agenda" narrative would come from with those guys, though. With IT there's a clear "agenda" that can be pinpointed, but what would that mean for the other guys? This is especially true given the context of Lue's quote talking about sharing the basketball offensively, which is in line with what IT's "agenda" would be.

The only other guy that I could see Lue targeting directly would be Lebron, given the report from Vardon regarding the team being unhappy with Lebron potentially being selfish with his passes. However, given their relationship it's hard for me to see Lue targeting Lebron via the media in that manner, even implicitly.

And yet, Shams Charania says that the Cavs want IT to shoot more, not less, and that they’re happy with his progress.

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Around the Cavaliers, there are no worries: Thomas will find his way, but must continue to be aggressive. There had been moments he passed when teammates expected him to shoot, almost second-guessing his shot selection rather than sticking to his gut and true game.

So, IT’s “agenda” seems to be a CelticsBlog driven narrative, not a real one.

So, you're telling me that a team is putting out a positive spin on a new, All-Star level player that they are just now working into the rotation mid-season after a significant injury, all while trying to keep one of the best players in the generation here next summer? This is unprecedented!  ;)

I mean, what else are they supposed to say: "Naw, IT needs to shoot less (because he brings to the table so much more from a basketball perspective), and we're not happy with his progress!"

And regardless of whether you want to believe it, IT's "agenda" has been clear for the last year or so with his constant discussion of Brinks trucks, getting paid, and his next contract. It's also a big reason why he's now in Cleveland rather than in Boston. He's quite simply the most obvious candidate to apply to the "agenda" narrative.
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Cavs are crushing the Pacers right now. Looks like they responded to Lue's comments well.

LOL you were saying??   :laugh:
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IT won't like us anymore if he reads this thread ,....LOL


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Cavs are crushing the Pacers right now. Looks like they responded to Lue's comments well.

LOL you were saying??   :laugh:

poor Lewhine .....just head for LA .....get out of our hair  ;D

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Peeking at Cavs blog .   Their fans seem pretty sure Lue was talking about LeWhine with the agenda.

Apparently Lue wants Lebron to speed the team up .....more ball movement ......not kill the offense by doing a Rondo like game of pounding  the ball until an assist opens up.   Other words ...Lebron move the ball ,  quit holding it so long .   It seems Lue has the stats to show the past few games Le ron has slowed the ball down alot ......because he is old and his teamates are old ?    He is not listening to his coach ....sooooo whats new there ?  Nobody wants to coach him. 

I see nobody on Cavs forums supporting the IT agenda theory .   They are laying the blame square on Lebron......you know ...the guy doing all the whining and crying tantrum thing in the timeout clip.  LOl

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Peeking at Cavs blog .   Their fans seem pretty sure Lue was talking about LeWhine with the agenda.

Apparently Lue wants Lebron to speed the team up .....more ball movement ......not kill the offense by doing a Rondo like game of bluncimg the ball until an assist opens up.   Other words ...Lebron move the ball ,  quit holding it so long .   It seems Lue has the stats to show the past few games Le ron has slowed the ball down alot ......because he is old and his teamates are old ?   

I see nobody on Cavs forums supporting the IT agenda theory .   They are laying the blame square on Lebron......you know ...the guy doing all the whining and crying tantrum thing in the timeout clip.  LOl

Now the question is "Does Lue last till the ASG?"

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Cavs are crushing the Pacers right now. Looks like they responded to Lue's comments well.

LOL you were saying??   :laugh:

One good quarter.

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Cavs are crushing the Pacers right now. Looks like they responded to Lue's comments well.

LOL you were saying??   :laugh:

One good quarter.
perhaps a bit more than that. let's celebrate!!  ;D
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Cavs blow 22 point lead and lose to the Pacers tonight.  Looks like Lance Stephenson has managed, once again, to get inside LeBron's head.  Amazing! 

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Anyone who surmises that Lue is referring to IT based on what was reported has an agenda.  Nothing about what we know would lead to that conclusion.

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Anyone who surmises that Lue is referring to IT based on what was reported has an agenda.  Nothing about what we know would lead to that conclusion.

I agree I don’t think it was targeted at LeBron. However, he should have emphasized that. Make a point that LeBron is leading the team and everyone should follow his lead. Love or hate him, the guy is a very smart basketball player. This team has come off the hinges. If they don’t right the ship, he’s gone. They will be stuck with the one pick from us and nothing else but bad contracts. They need to bend the knee to him.

Either that, or trade him. I assume he has a NTC, but find a place he wants to go and get something in return. Don’t rely on winning two lotteries in the next few years.
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