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Re: Fultz still can't shoot
« Reply #75 on: January 25, 2018, 07:42:22 AM »

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https://twitter.com/jonjohnsonwip/status/956284647713001473/video/1

Good Lord, somehow his shot is looking even worse the longer this thing drags on.

This has to be the yips at this point, right?

How the hell do you develop that kind of hitch in your shot, especially in a free throw?

Yeah, it has to be the yips.  Thatís a career-ender, potentially.

Iíd lie to the kid, tell him his shoulder is damaged and he needs surgery, and somehow find a doctor who will perform something fake for him.  He needs to believe that itís not in his head, and the ďrehabĒ hasnít worked to do that.
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Re: Fultz still can't shoot
« Reply #76 on: January 25, 2018, 09:02:20 AM »

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Oh god, that is atrocious. 

Man, the Celtics may have really dodged a bullet here.    Definitely looks like some Knoblauch stuff going on with the kid.


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Re: Fultz still can't shoot
« Reply #77 on: January 25, 2018, 09:11:26 AM »

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Oh god, that is atrocious. 

Man, the Celtics may have really dodged a bullet here.    Definitely looks like some Knoblauch stuff going on with the kid.
I'm not sure how true the rumor was but Ainge would have taken Tatum at 1 if he didn't make the trade.
I was a huge fan of Fultz. He had a nice looking game in college. His current state is one of the weirdest thing I've seen in a long time.

Re: Fultz still can't shoot
« Reply #78 on: January 25, 2018, 09:12:12 AM »

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Sixers should NOT let those videos leak...

Re: Fultz still can't shoot
« Reply #79 on: January 25, 2018, 09:20:33 AM »

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I feel bad for Fultz. He seems like a good kid that has just had a tough go of things lately.

I was fully onboard the Fultz train, but the one reservation I had about him was the mental game, as I thought he lacked a fiery, passionate streak. Boy was that reservation validated!
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Re: Fultz still can't shoot
« Reply #80 on: January 25, 2018, 09:23:48 AM »

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Found a video on youtube of him shooting from across the practice facility.
At least half the shots were actually JJ Reddick shooting.

Re: Fultz still can't shoot
« Reply #81 on: January 25, 2018, 09:25:40 AM »

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https://twitter.com/jonjohnsonwip/status/956284647713001473/video/1

Good Lord, somehow his shot is looking even worse the longer this thing drags on.

This has to be the yips at this point, right?

How the hell do you develop that kind of hitch in your shot, especially in a free throw?

Yeah, it has to be the yips.  That’s a career-ender, potentially.

I’d lie to the kid, tell him his shoulder is damaged and he needs surgery, and somehow find a doctor who will perform something fake for him.  He needs to believe that it’s not in his head, and the “rehab” hasn’t worked to do that.
That is a good approach.
However, they have already done that, saying he has a muscle imbalance.
The kid knows whats happening to him, he is smart.

I feel bad for him.
And really good about our end of the bargain.
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Re: Fultz still can't shoot
« Reply #82 on: January 25, 2018, 10:28:48 AM »

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Sixers should NOT let those videos leak...
That's not a leak, it was taken by a beat reporter during what I assume is the media availability portion of practice. I'm not sure that taking active measures to hide Fultz will be better.
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Re: Fultz still can't shoot
« Reply #83 on: January 25, 2018, 02:53:31 PM »

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Oh god, that is atrocious. 

Man, the Celtics may have really dodged a bullet here.    Definitely looks like some Knoblauch stuff going on with the kid.

It has actually reminded me of Knoblauch! Good call

Re: Fultz still can't shoot
« Reply #84 on: January 25, 2018, 03:04:23 PM »

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https://twitter.com/jonjohnsonwip/status/956284647713001473/video/1

Good Lord, somehow his shot is looking even worse the longer this thing drags on.

This has to be the yips at this point, right?

How the hell do you develop that kind of hitch in your shot, especially in a free throw?

Yeah, it has to be the yips.  Thatís a career-ender, potentially.

Iíd lie to the kid, tell him his shoulder is damaged and he needs surgery, and somehow find a doctor who will perform something fake for him.  He needs to believe that itís not in his head, and the ďrehabĒ hasnít worked to do that.
That is a good approach.
However, they have already done that, saying he has a muscle imbalance.
The kid knows whats happening to him, he is smart.

I feel bad for him.
And really good about our end of the bargain.

Thatís why you do a fake surgery.  Find a doctor, tell him to examine him.  If thereís something structural, fix it.  If thereís not, tell him there is and pretend to fix it.  Heck, have him tell the team the same thing he tells Fultz, so they donít know either. Even if all youíre doing is removing a benign mole, he needs to think that there was actually something holding him back.  And the coaching staff does too, frankly.

Iím sure itís probably unethical, but he needs to go into surgery thinking thereís something wrong that heís actually having a surgical procedure to correct, and wake up being told he had the surgery with a small scar to prove it.  You canít think your way out of the yips.
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Re: Fultz still can't shoot
« Reply #85 on: January 25, 2018, 03:33:48 PM »

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Oh god, that is atrocious. 

Man, the Celtics may have really dodged a bullet here.    Definitely looks like some Knoblauch stuff going on with the kid.

It has actually reminded me of Knoblauch! Good call

I was reminded of Dan Bard.

Thinking about it, it seems like baseball and golf are probably the most common examples where we see the "yips."

But has there ever been a basketball player who lost it? Even on wide open shots and free throws?

I mean maybe Nick Anderson is someone, but he never collapsed as completely as the myth tells it.

Re: Fultz still can't shoot
« Reply #86 on: January 25, 2018, 03:45:14 PM »

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Sixers should NOT let those videos leak...
There was no "leak". A reporter took a video and shared it. That is what they do.

But, man, that body language is bad. Then again, there were narratives out there pre-draft questioning his drive and mental makeup.

Re: Fultz still can't shoot
« Reply #87 on: January 25, 2018, 03:49:44 PM »

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https://twitter.com/jonjohnsonwip/status/956284647713001473/video/1

Good Lord, somehow his shot is looking even worse the longer this thing drags on.

This has to be the yips at this point, right?

How the hell do you develop that kind of hitch in your shot, especially in a free throw?

Yeah, it has to be the yips.  Thatís a career-ender, potentially.

Iíd lie to the kid, tell him his shoulder is damaged and he needs surgery, and somehow find a doctor who will perform something fake for him.  He needs to believe that itís not in his head, and the ďrehabĒ hasnít worked to do that.
That is a good approach.
However, they have already done that, saying he has a muscle imbalance.
The kid knows whats happening to him, he is smart.

I feel bad for him.
And really good about our end of the bargain.

Thatís why you do a fake surgery.  Find a doctor, tell him to examine him.  If thereís something structural, fix it.  If thereís not, tell him there is and pretend to fix it.  Heck, have him tell the team the same thing he tells Fultz, so they donít know either. Even if all youíre doing is removing a benign mole, he needs to think that there was actually something holding him back.  And the coaching staff does too, frankly.

Iím sure itís probably unethical, but he needs to go into surgery thinking thereís something wrong that heís actually having a surgical procedure to correct, and wake up being told he had the surgery with a small scar to prove it.  You canít think your way out of the yips.

Sounds like something from black mirror

Re: Fultz still can't shoot
« Reply #88 on: January 25, 2018, 03:58:03 PM »

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https://twitter.com/jonjohnsonwip/status/956284647713001473/video/1

Good Lord, somehow his shot is looking even worse the longer this thing drags on.

This has to be the yips at this point, right?

How the hell do you develop that kind of hitch in your shot, especially in a free throw?

Yeah, it has to be the yips.  Thatís a career-ender, potentially.

Iíd lie to the kid, tell him his shoulder is damaged and he needs surgery, and somehow find a doctor who will perform something fake for him.  He needs to believe that itís not in his head, and the ďrehabĒ hasnít worked to do that.
That is a good approach.
However, they have already done that, saying he has a muscle imbalance.
The kid knows whats happening to him, he is smart.

I feel bad for him.
And really good about our end of the bargain.

Thatís why you do a fake surgery.  Find a doctor, tell him to examine him.  If thereís something structural, fix it.  If thereís not, tell him there is and pretend to fix it.  Heck, have him tell the team the same thing he tells Fultz, so they donít know either. Even if all youíre doing is removing a benign mole, he needs to think that there was actually something holding him back.  And the coaching staff does too, frankly.

Iím sure itís probably unethical, but he needs to go into surgery thinking thereís something wrong that heís actually having a surgical procedure to correct, and wake up being told he had the surgery with a small scar to prove it.  You canít think your way out of the yips.

Sounds like something from black mirror

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What SL is suggesting is dark and most likely unethical but it's an awesome idea.


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Re: Fultz still can't shoot
« Reply #89 on: January 25, 2018, 04:28:06 PM »

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76'ers said he was healthy just needs to get his shot back....that was a month ago. Cant really explain what it is. BUT some players just never transition to the NBA well

Look at Okafor...