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Luka Doncic Grant Hill comparison
« on: January 09, 2018, 10:23:49 PM »

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 Thats my comp for Luka, whats yours. Ayton is a upgraded Dwight Howard, and Bagley is actually really hard for me as far as comps. Chris Webber people were saying, no, Webber was jacked, slower, more polished, better passer.
 
 Bagley will be really good, TPs to any good ideas for Bagley comparisons.

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Al Horford for Bagley.  Ginobli is the best I have for Doncic.

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  Im going to go off beat here with Bagley. Tim Duncan. Totally different body's, But skill wise, and being fundamentally sound, on offense not defensively, Duncan was unreal at D.

 Bagley is a Chris Bosh body, with Timmy like skills.

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Grant Hill was an athletic freak...
My comps are:
Doncic-poor man's Hondo
Ayton-taller and more skilled Dwight Howard with a modern game
Bamba-modern Dikembe
Bagley-KG
Porter-a bulkier Durant


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Grant Hill was an athletic freak...
My comps are:
Doncic-poor man's Hondo
Ayton-taller and more skilled Dwight Howard with a modern game
Bamba-modern Dikembe
Bagley-KG
Porter-a bulkier Durant

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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2018, 12:59:00 AM »

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Grant Hill was an athletic freak...
My comps are:
Doncic-poor man's Hondo
Ayton-taller and more skilled Dwight Howard with a modern game
Bamba-modern Dikembe
Bagley-KG
Porter-a bulkier Durant

TP.
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Grant Hill was an athletic freak...
My comps are:
Doncic-poor man's Hondo
Ayton-taller and more skilled Dwight Howard with a modern game
Bamba-modern Dikembe
Bagley-KG
Porter-a bulkier Durant

So basically the greatest top of the draft ever?
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Ayton reminds me of KAT.

Bagley is a fusion of Lamar Odom and Josh Smith.

Bamba is like Gobert with range on his jumper.

I have no clue when it comes to Doncic.  He is nowhere close to the athlete Grant Hill was.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2018, 03:41:00 AM »

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Grant Hill was an athletic freak...
My comps are:
Doncic-poor man's Hondo
Ayton-taller and more skilled Dwight Howard with a modern game
Bamba-modern Dikembe
Bagley-KG
Porter-a bulkier Durant

So basically the greatest top of the draft ever?
Ah was talking about their ceilings imo
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2018, 04:21:04 AM »

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Ayton reminds me of KAT.

Bagley is a fusion of Lamar Odom and Josh Smith.

Bamba is like Gobert with range on his jumper.

I have no clue when it comes to Doncic.  He is nowhere close to the athlete Grant Hill was.

No you're right. He's actually pretty bulky for a tallish guard. He can bang on the drive, but also show really nice feel for getting up funky shots; runners, floaters, leaners. Super high floor.

Not sure who the best comparison is...  :-\
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2018, 05:16:28 AM »

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No you're right. He's actually pretty bulky for a tallish guard. He can bang on the drive, but also show really nice feel for getting up funky shots; runners, floaters, leaners. Super high floor.

Not sure who the best comparison is...  :-\

Grant Hill comp. is off IMO, he is closer to Penny if we are going in that direction.
There is no one quite like him, it is a very ungrateful task to compare him.

The closest one IMO is Toni Kukoč while he was playing in Europe.
Toni didn't operate as much in the PNR (there was less PNR action back then) and was a lefty. When Toni was his age he was tearing Europe apart just like Luka does now, he was also a Point forward back then in Yugoplastika and Benetton.
During Chicago years, due to triangle offense and having MJ on the team, his time with the ball in his hands diminished greatly. People in the States mostly remember Toni from his bulkier Chicago days, where they've put additional 20/25 lbs on him, and that made him basically a big and not a guard/wing.
Toni didn't put people in jail like Luka does, but Toni was great at posting up.
I guess that is the difference between the eras they played in. Luka is a PNR maestro, Toni was a post up threat (it was easy to find a mismatch for him), both are unselfish, have flair and great passing vision. Luka is more feisty, Toni was more phlegmatic (Dalmatians usually are).

Some vids for a better understanding of what I'm writing about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXoe6tHD5mE - in Yugoplastika, watch after 5:15 mark, nice dunk at 7:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NKKnsbKRJQ - Toni (Bennetton) showing us floaters vs Real (Sabonis)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V18tfKA57D0 - Benetton vs Estudiantes, playing more as a forward.
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No you're right. He's actually pretty bulky for a tallish guard. He can bang on the drive, but also show really nice feel for getting up funky shots; runners, floaters, leaners. Super high floor.

Not sure who the best comparison is...  :-\

Grant Hill comp. is off IMO, he is closer to Penny if we are going in that direction.
There is no one quite like him, it is a very ungrateful task to compare him.

The closest one IMO is Toni Kukoč while he was playing in Europe.
Toni didn't operate as much in the PNR (there was less PNR action back then) and was a lefty. When Toni was his age he was tearing Europe apart just like Luka does now, he was also a Point forward back then in Yugoplastika and Benetton.
During Chicago years, due to triangle offense and having MJ on the team, his time with the ball in his hands diminished greatly. People in the States mostly remember Toni from his bulkier Chicago days, where they've put additional 20/25 lbs on him, and that made him basically a big and not a guard/wing.
Toni didn't put people in jail like Luka does, but Toni was great at posting up.
I guess that is the difference between the eras they played in. Luka is a PNR maestro, Toni was a post up threat (it was easy to find a mismatch for him), both are unselfish, have flair and great passing vision. Luka is more feisty, Toni was more phlegmatic (Dalmatians usually are).

Some vids for a better understanding of what I'm writing about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXoe6tHD5mE - in Yugoplastika, watch after 5:15 mark, nice dunk at 7:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NKKnsbKRJQ - Toni (Bennetton) showing us floaters vs Real (Sabonis)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V18tfKA57D0 - Benetton vs Estudiantes, playing more as a forward.
Again Penny was more or less like Grant Hill in terms of athleticism and he was long, fast and explosive. Don't think Doncic comes close in those categories. Believe we had a similar conversation about the absurdity of comparing Doncic to such players too (not to say he's bad, just saying he's not going to be your long and athletic forward that can jump out of the gym while handling the ball like a PG) :laugh:. Agree with the Kukoc comps, btw anything to say about my comp of a poor man's Hondo that's less athletic?
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2018, 09:29:00 AM »

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No you're right. He's actually pretty bulky for a tallish guard. He can bang on the drive, but also show really nice feel for getting up funky shots; runners, floaters, leaners. Super high floor.

Not sure who the best comparison is...  :-\

Grant Hill comp. is off IMO, he is closer to Penny if we are going in that direction.
There is no one quite like him, it is a very ungrateful task to compare him.

The closest one IMO is Toni Kukoč while he was playing in Europe.
Toni didn't operate as much in the PNR (there was less PNR action back then) and was a lefty. When Toni was his age he was tearing Europe apart just like Luka does now, he was also a Point forward back then in Yugoplastika and Benetton.
During Chicago years, due to triangle offense and having MJ on the team, his time with the ball in his hands diminished greatly. People in the States mostly remember Toni from his bulkier Chicago days, where they've put additional 20/25 lbs on him, and that made him basically a big and not a guard/wing.
Toni didn't put people in jail like Luka does, but Toni was great at posting up.
I guess that is the difference between the eras they played in. Luka is a PNR maestro, Toni was a post up threat (it was easy to find a mismatch for him), both are unselfish, have flair and great passing vision. Luka is more feisty, Toni was more phlegmatic (Dalmatians usually are).

Some vids for a better understanding of what I'm writing about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXoe6tHD5mE - in Yugoplastika, watch after 5:15 mark, nice dunk at 7:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NKKnsbKRJQ - Toni (Bennetton) showing us floaters vs Real (Sabonis)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V18tfKA57D0 - Benetton vs Estudiantes, playing more as a forward.
Again Penny was more or less like Grant Hill in terms of athleticism and he was long, fast and explosive. Don't think Doncic comes close in those categories. Believe we had a similar conversation about the absurdity of comparing Doncic to such players too (not to say he's bad, just saying he's not going to be your long and athletic forward that can jump out of the gym while handling the ball like a PG) :laugh:. Agree with the Kukoc comps, btw anything to say about my comp of a poor man's Hondo that's less athletic?
I don't have that much insight on Hondo. I'm too young, I didn't have him on my NT and fewer vids are available. Surely here on CB there must be many guys/girls that saw him play many times. The question is did they watch Luka enough to make a comparison.
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2018, 10:11:08 AM »

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What I remember most about Havlicek was his motor, just non stop all the time.  I don't recall him having the playmaking skill that Doncic has.  He was a good passer, but not elite.  Great defender.  Not seeing him as a good comp. 

Nobody likes my Ginobli comp for Doncic?

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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2018, 10:23:25 AM »

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Luka is Evan Turner with great 3 point shooting, and better court vision. Both have similar height, length and athleticism. 

Brad would love him.