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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2018, 02:09:51 PM »

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I actually came in here to post about the sexual harassment lawsuit that got filed and got distracted again by the Ball's. 

Here is an article on the harassment suit.  https://www.si.com/tech-media/2018/03/05/adrienne-lawrence-espn-lawsuit-john-buccigross
Well I doubt she wins the part of her suit that claims discimination because she was a woman for not getting rehired after her fellowship contract expired. ESPN laid off over 100 people at that time and its commonly known they are in poor financial straights right now.

Re: ESPN - Journalism, Balls, and Sexual Harassment Suit
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2018, 03:04:28 PM »

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These are the allegations:

-They keep “scorecards” which list and rank female ESPN colleagues based on sexual attraction;
-They frequently watch p0rn in the presence of female colleagues;
-They openly describe female celebrities with whom they would like to have sex, and then wonder what those celebrities “taste like” during sex;
-As a matter of workplace environment, they expect their female colleagues “to tolerate the predatory culture without protest” and to “go along to get along;”
-They discourage female colleagues from sharing any of their complaints and advise them to be thick-skinned about their ESPN experience;
-They engage in “grooming” to coerce female colleagues into sexual relationships. The complaint describes grooming as “a manipulative tactic that typically involves targeting a vulnerable victim, gaining private access to the victim, gaining the victim’s trust, desensitizing the victim to sexualization through testing and gradually increasing the sexualization of the relationship;”
-They are enabled by ESPN’s human resources staff, who cover up misconduct rather than credibly investigate it;
-They make pregnant broadcasters feel as if they could lose their jobs if they take time off;
-They create an environment where female on-air talent are led to believe that providing “sexual favors” to management can be a form of exchange for on-air opportunities; and
-They retaliate against female employees who complain about sexual misconduct. Retaliation comes in the form of fabricating performance reviews to depict the complainers as bad workers, choosing to advance undeserving male employees over more deserving female employees and awarding contract extensions to harassers.

Some of these are hard to prove, but I think there's enough here that it will be difficult for ESPN to refute all charges in court.

Not good for ESPN.

Re: ESPN - Journalism, Balls, and Sexual Harassment Suit
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2018, 03:23:50 PM »

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If you've read "These Guys Have All the Fun", you'll realize that a lot of this stuff shouldn't come as a shock.



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Re: ESPN - Journalism, Balls, and Sexual Harassment Suit
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2018, 04:13:55 PM »

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The patriots piece cracked me up. Basically this one guy thinks that is what is happening behind closed doors but has zero factual evidence to support it.. Just the typical espn "journalism", they literally had commercials and notifications telling us to read/watch a piece 100% based on someone's thoughts with zero evidence.

You really think Brady went to Kraft behind belichicks back and told him to trade Jimmy G? Makes no sense to me. Then u factor in how the pats tried all off season to get a 1st rd pick for Jimmy and couldn't get anyone to bite, how Jimmy was to be a free agent after the season who would've required started qb money to stay, it was pretty obvious the pats had to get something for him before he left for nothing. But still some sheep will believe anything espn puts out there (see deflategate).
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Re: ESPN - Journalism, Balls, and Sexual Harassment Suit
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2018, 04:26:43 PM »

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The patriots piece cracked me up. Basically this one guy thinks that is what is happening behind closed doors but has zero factual evidence to support it.. Just the typical espn "journalism", they literally had commercials and notifications telling us to read/watch a piece 100% based on someone's thoughts with zero evidence.

You really think Brady went to Kraft behind belichicks back and told him to trade Jimmy G? Makes no sense to me. Then u factor in how the pats tried all off season to get a 1st rd pick for Jimmy and couldn't get anyone to bite, how Jimmy was to be a free agent after the season who would've required started qb money to stay, it was pretty obvious the pats had to get something for him before he left for nothing. But still some sheep will believe anything espn puts out there (see deflategate).

I don't agree with how he connected the dots. I don't see the Patriots unraveling. This is a media creation. ESPN did the same thing with the San Antonio Spurs. People are using Brady, the Jimmy G trade, and Malcolm Butler as the reasons for distress. I hear the argument- I just don't believe it.

I still hope that Brady and Belichick are going to part with the Patriots on good terms. I see no reason why they can't.

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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2018, 06:35:47 PM »

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The patriots piece cracked me up. Basically this one guy thinks that is what is happening behind closed doors but has zero factual evidence to support it.. Just the typical espn "journalism", they literally had commercials and notifications telling us to read/watch a piece 100% based on someone's thoughts with zero evidence.

You really think Brady went to Kraft behind belichicks back and told him to trade Jimmy G? Makes no sense to me. Then u factor in how the pats tried all off season to get a 1st rd pick for Jimmy and couldn't get anyone to bite, how Jimmy was to be a free agent after the season who would've required started qb money to stay, it was pretty obvious the pats had to get something for him before he left for nothing. But still some sheep will believe anything espn puts out there (see deflategate).
the Patriots didn't call the Browns who would have given them the Houston 1st and other assets for Jimmy G.  In fact, Bill only called the Niners and made the offer which they accepted.  That is just weird on a lot of levela.

Re: ESPN - Journalism, Balls, and Sexual Harassment Suit
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2018, 06:56:03 PM »

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The patriots piece cracked me up. Basically this one guy thinks that is what is happening behind closed doors but has zero factual evidence to support it.. Just the typical espn "journalism", they literally had commercials and notifications telling us to read/watch a piece 100% based on someone's thoughts with zero evidence.

You really think Brady went to Kraft behind belichicks back and told him to trade Jimmy G? Makes no sense to me. Then u factor in how the pats tried all off season to get a 1st rd pick for Jimmy and couldn't get anyone to bite, how Jimmy was to be a free agent after the season who would've required started qb money to stay, it was pretty obvious the pats had to get something for him before he left for nothing. But still some sheep will believe anything espn puts out there (see deflategate).
the Patriots didn't call the Browns who would have given them the Houston 1st and other assets for Jimmy G.  In fact, Bill only called the Niners and made the offer which they accepted.  That is just weird on a lot of levela.

Do we actually know what CLE was offering? Adam Schefter said Jimmy wasn't going anywhere, and now we believe him and the next guy when they say that they know what CLE was offering.

I too was underwhelmed by the Jimmy G contract, but we don't know if Jimmy G would have signed long term in CLE. This would be an important consideration for CLE. Jimmy would have the option to go to any team needing a decent QB (prob 20 teams).

In addition, I believe that Belichick valued Jimmy G, and didn't want to face him competitively. If Jimmy G really does become a great QB, it would be painful watching him beat NE in the playoffs.

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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2018, 07:11:33 PM »

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The patriots piece cracked me up. Basically this one guy thinks that is what is happening behind closed doors but has zero factual evidence to support it.. Just the typical espn "journalism", they literally had commercials and notifications telling us to read/watch a piece 100% based on someone's thoughts with zero evidence.

You really think Brady went to Kraft behind belichicks back and told him to trade Jimmy G? Makes no sense to me. Then u factor in how the pats tried all off season to get a 1st rd pick for Jimmy and couldn't get anyone to bite, how Jimmy was to be a free agent after the season who would've required started qb money to stay, it was pretty obvious the pats had to get something for him before he left for nothing. But still some sheep will believe anything espn puts out there (see deflategate).
the Patriots didn't call the Browns who would have given them the Houston 1st and other assets for Jimmy G.  In fact, Bill only called the Niners and made the offer which they accepted.  That is just weird on a lot of levela.

Do we actually know what CLE was offering? Adam Schefter said Jimmy wasn't going anywhere, and now we believe him and the next guy when they say that they know what CLE was offering.

I too was underwhelmed by the Jimmy G contract, but we don't know if Jimmy G would have signed long term in CLE. This would be an important consideration for CLE. Jimmy would have the option to go to any team needing a decent QB (prob 20 teams).

In addition, I believe that Belichick valued Jimmy G, and didn't want to face him competitively. If Jimmy G really does become a great QB, it would be painful watching him beat NE in the playoffs.

It's really not that "weird" once you put some thought into it. 

Now, from a return standpoint? Sure.  If that trade rumor is actually true & not Sashi Brown or whoever was/still is in the organzation trying to spin & save face, then Belichick certainly didn't get max value.   The timetable on that trade offer still seems to be a bit dicey and its certainly a possibility that the Pats view towards the Brady/Garoppolo dynamic changed from when that offer was made to when JG was actually dealt.

However, its still rather easy to see why Belichick didn't deal with CLE when it came to Garoppolo.   This wasn't a Jamie Collins or Mingo deal. 

1)  QB trade involving another AFC team

2)  Belichick's established relationship with Lynch/Shanahan  (with an NFC team).

3)  Simply not steering Garoppolo (a kid who, by all accounts, Belichick thinks highly of) to a team that has done absolutely nothing to prove its a good environment for a QB.

Not that weird at all.


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Re: ESPN - Journalism, Balls, and Sexual Harassment Suit
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2018, 08:17:44 AM »

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The patriots piece cracked me up. Basically this one guy thinks that is what is happening behind closed doors but has zero factual evidence to support it.. Just the typical espn "journalism", they literally had commercials and notifications telling us to read/watch a piece 100% based on someone's thoughts with zero evidence.

You really think Brady went to Kraft behind belichicks back and told him to trade Jimmy G? Makes no sense to me. Then u factor in how the pats tried all off season to get a 1st rd pick for Jimmy and couldn't get anyone to bite, how Jimmy was to be a free agent after the season who would've required started qb money to stay, it was pretty obvious the pats had to get something for him before he left for nothing. But still some sheep will believe anything espn puts out there (see deflategate).
the Patriots didn't call the Browns who would have given them the Houston 1st and other assets for Jimmy G.  In fact, Bill only called the Niners and made the offer which they accepted.  That is just weird on a lot of levela.

Do we actually know what CLE was offering? Adam Schefter said Jimmy wasn't going anywhere, and now we believe him and the next guy when they say that they know what CLE was offering.

I too was underwhelmed by the Jimmy G contract, but we don't know if Jimmy G would have signed long term in CLE. This would be an important consideration for CLE. Jimmy would have the option to go to any team needing a decent QB (prob 20 teams).

In addition, I believe that Belichick valued Jimmy G, and didn't want to face him competitively. If Jimmy G really does become a great QB, it would be painful watching him beat NE in the playoffs.
I posted an article from Cleveland in the other thread where the Browns all but confirmed they would have moved the Houston 1st rounder for Jimmy G before the trade deadline, but that the Patriots never called them.  I believe Bill basically confirmed he only called the Niners once they decided to trade Jimmy G, which is why there is some credence in the ESPN story.  Had the Patriots traded Jimmy before the last draft, they absolutely could have gotten a 1st rounder for him.  Had they made it known he was available, they absolutely could have gotten more than what the Niners gave up (even if it was just from the Niners).  The reality is, the way that trade came about absolutely is very strange, so strange that it leads to the possibility of an internal struggle in the organization.

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« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2018, 11:33:44 AM »

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Needless to say, ESPN has had a rough last couple of years.    The latest on that abrupt John Skipper resignation back in December.

http://awfulannouncing.com/espn/john-skipper-says-extorted-someone-bought-cocaine.html

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JAM: Well, John, with all due respect, I’m a bit confused. There seems to be a big piece missing to this story. I’m looking at my notes: First, you’ve shared that you were an infrequent user of cocaine — something that could be true of others in the entertainment and media business. I’m not an expert in this area, but I’m not sure some would even call that an addiction. Second, you’ve stated categorically that your use never got in the way of your work. And third, you’ve admitted that on the days leading up to your decision to resign, you had no thoughts of resigning. None of that seems to explain why you reached the decision you had to resign.

I know this is difficult, John. I hope you understand why I’m pushing a bit here.

Skipper: In December, someone from whom I bought cocaine attempted to extort me.

JAM: Someone you had had dealings with in the past?

Skipper: No.

JAM: Again, respectfully, didn’t you just say you were careful about your dealings in this area?

Skipper: Not this time. It turned out I wasn’t careful this time.

JAM: What did they say?

Skipper: They threatened me, and I understood immediately that threat put me and my family at risk, and this exposure would put my professional life at risk as well. I foreclosed that possibility by disclosing the details to my family, and then when I discussed it with Bob, he and I agreed that I had placed the company in an untenable position and as a result, I should resign.

JAM: Did you agree to resign because you understood that Bob couldn’t allow the company, by extension, to be threatened by whoever was extorting you?

Skipper: I did understand that.


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