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Re: Great Jackie Mac Article: Irving Says "Leaving Was Inevitable"
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2018, 11:08:14 AM »

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Some quotes here make Irving look pretty bad:

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During a rare practice in the middle of last season, coach Tyronn Lue, who was standing next to assistant coach and Irving confidant Phil Handy, called out to his young point guard.

"Ky," Lue said, "I want you to play a little faster."

"Why?" Irving asked.

"Because if we play faster, we get shots off easier."

"I don't need to play faster to get my shot off," Irving replied. "I can do that anytime."

"I'm not talking about your shot. I'm talking about RJ and JR," Lue said, citing teammates Richard Jefferson and Smith.

"Well, that's No. 23's job," Irving replied, referring to James.

According to members of the Cavs organization who witnessed the exchange, Lue ended the conversation by walking away, shaking his head.

oof

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Irving, for his part, laments the fact that his conversation with Lue ended without a resolution. "At that time, we had probably lost a few [games]," Irving says now. "[Lue] is coming up to me and saying, 'We've got to play faster,' and I probably wasn't willing to accept it at the time. So maybe I'd like a do-over on that.

at least he acknowledges that wasnt the best look.
Yeah that is the concerning part.  Your coach asks you to do something and you say no and put the blame on the team's best player.  Not a good look at all and very concerning going forward.

That quote DEFINITELY shows that Kyrie handled that situation like a complete Diva.

   

Certainly not a shining moment for Kyrie but I think you can also chalk a lot of that up to being young & immature.   Like most early to mid 20 somethings. 

It's eyeopening but not entirely unexpected given age & position.


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Re: Great Jackie Mac Article: Irving Says "Leaving Was Inevitable"
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2018, 12:28:43 PM »

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Some quotes here make Irving look pretty bad:

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During a rare practice in the middle of last season, coach Tyronn Lue, who was standing next to assistant coach and Irving confidant Phil Handy, called out to his young point guard.

"Ky," Lue said, "I want you to play a little faster."

"Why?" Irving asked.

"Because if we play faster, we get shots off easier."

"I don't need to play faster to get my shot off," Irving replied. "I can do that anytime."

"I'm not talking about your shot. I'm talking about RJ and JR," Lue said, citing teammates Richard Jefferson and Smith.

"Well, that's No. 23's job," Irving replied, referring to James.

According to members of the Cavs organization who witnessed the exchange, Lue ended the conversation by walking away, shaking his head.

oof

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Irving, for his part, laments the fact that his conversation with Lue ended without a resolution. "At that time, we had probably lost a few [games]," Irving says now. "[Lue] is coming up to me and saying, 'We've got to play faster,' and I probably wasn't willing to accept it at the time. So maybe I'd like a do-over on that.

at least he acknowledges that wasnt the best look.
Yeah that is the concerning part.  Your coach asks you to do something and you say no and put the blame on the team's best player.  Not a good look at all and very concerning going forward.

That quote DEFINITELY shows that Kyrie handled that situation like a complete Diva.

   

Certainly not a shining moment for Kyrie but I think you can also chalk a lot of that up to being young & immature.   Like most early to mid 20 somethings. 

It's eyeopening but not entirely unexpected given age & position.
It was like 8 months ago, though.  It wasn't like it was 4 years ago and he has matured since then.

Re: Great Jackie Mac Article: Irving Says "Leaving Was Inevitable"
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2018, 12:32:50 PM »

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Some quotes here make Irving look pretty bad:

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During a rare practice in the middle of last season, coach Tyronn Lue, who was standing next to assistant coach and Irving confidant Phil Handy, called out to his young point guard.

"Ky," Lue said, "I want you to play a little faster."

"Why?" Irving asked.

"Because if we play faster, we get shots off easier."

"I don't need to play faster to get my shot off," Irving replied. "I can do that anytime."

"I'm not talking about your shot. I'm talking about RJ and JR," Lue said, citing teammates Richard Jefferson and Smith.

"Well, that's No. 23's job," Irving replied, referring to James.

According to members of the Cavs organization who witnessed the exchange, Lue ended the conversation by walking away, shaking his head.

oof

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Irving, for his part, laments the fact that his conversation with Lue ended without a resolution. "At that time, we had probably lost a few [games]," Irving says now. "[Lue] is coming up to me and saying, 'We've got to play faster,' and I probably wasn't willing to accept it at the time. So maybe I'd like a do-over on that.

at least he acknowledges that wasnt the best look.
Yeah that is the concerning part.  Your coach asks you to do something and you say no and put the blame on the team's best player.  Not a good look at all and very concerning going forward.

That quote DEFINITELY shows that Kyrie handled that situation like a complete Diva.

   

Certainly not a shining moment for Kyrie but I think you can also chalk a lot of that up to being young & immature.   Like most early to mid 20 somethings. 

It's eyeopening but not entirely unexpected given age & position.
It was like 8 months ago, though.  It wasn't like it was 4 years ago and he has matured since then.

He's 25.  Is he a saint? No.  None of them are.

Hell, the best player in the league is 33 years old and still runs around doing immature things from time to time.

A lot of this stuff is a combination of ego, age, & being handed stuff to you on a silver platter since you were a kid. 

None of this is particularly eye opening.


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Re: Great Jackie Mac Article: Irving Says "Leaving Was Inevitable"
« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2018, 10:30:41 AM »

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I donít care what he said to who in Cleveland. I have no idea what that team was like or how the players get along or the competency of the coaches. I donít know what was going on that day or anything else that couldíve possibly been said or done that we donít know about. I also donít know who leaked that quote about him and Lue at practice. Could be someone from the James camp and I donít trust much from them.

All I care about his what heís doing now and how he and Brad get along. Looks great so far and if it starts to turn south then Danny will just trade him probably.
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