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Re: Wizards (18-15) at Celtics (27-9) Game #37 12/25/17
« Reply #315 on: December 25, 2017, 09:46:05 PM »

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There are a few people on this blog (someone other than tarheels is the main culprit) who think their opinions carry more weight because they played college or pro ball or played for a certain coach whose name we recognize.  That stuff is ridiculous and irrelevant........ Guys like Lawrence Frank, Greg Popovich, and Erik Spoelstra didn’t.

 Frank, no but Pop and Spoelstra both played ball at some point.  Still one can learn a lot being a manager for Bob Knight, no less which is what Frank was...

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Born in Evanston, Illinois, Spoelstra later spent his childhood in Buffalo, New York then Portland, Oregon by the late 1970s.[5][6] Spoelstra attended Jesuit High School in Beaverton, Oregon, where he excelled at point guard on the basketball team.[5] He wore number 30 during high school and later in college in honor of then Trail Blazer Terry Porter, one of his favorite NBA players.[7] Before his senior year, Spoelstra participated in Sonny Vaccaro's Nike All-Star camp in Princeton, New Jersey alongside future NBA players Alonzo Mourning, Shawn Kemp, Billy Owens, and Bobby Hurley.

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I disagree, players have an insight into the game that spectators can only speculate about sometimes.   There certainly are stupid players who are not cerebral but there is a reason that networks hire former players to talk about games.   I think this is a case by case basis however. That being said, often the best coaches are ones who sat on the bench a lot and learned more from their coaches not playing.

Washington wanted it more than us today and took away the game from us.   I thought they came out playing harder and when the game was on the line they made less mistakes and asserted themselves on us.  Oubre killed us.

Re: Wizards (18-15) at Celtics (27-9) Game #37 12/25/17
« Reply #316 on: December 26, 2017, 12:26:45 AM »

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The Celtics grabbed zero defensive rebounds in the final six minutes and 56 seconds of tonight's game.

Almost impossible to do, yet we did it.
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Re: Wizards (18-15) at Celtics (27-9) Game #37 12/25/17
« Reply #317 on: December 26, 2017, 06:22:45 AM »

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Morris was just awful last night. After the first couple minutes he should have sat for the rest of the game. It's almost like he was playing for the other team. Guess he wanted his brother to win more than himself.

Re: Wizards (18-15) at Celtics (27-9) Game #37 12/25/17
« Reply #318 on: December 26, 2017, 07:29:09 AM »

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Morris was just awful last night. After the first couple minutes he should have sat for the rest of the game. It's almost like he was playing for the other team. Guess he wanted his brother to win more than himself.

I thought he forced the action with a lot of his shots.   But face it, he was not the sole reason we lost.   

Re: Wizards (18-15) at Celtics (27-9) Game #37 12/25/17
« Reply #319 on: December 26, 2017, 08:28:06 AM »

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Officially on the “Kyrie plays hero ball down the stretch and it hurts us” train

hero ball, hero ball?  seriously.  KI had the layup that just barely rolled off the rim.  that just after draining a long 3.   ::)

He's a -13.  We are hiding him on Oubre,  and Oubre keeps scoring.  He has sucked,. But hey, 20 pts

Since when are the C's hiding KI on D?  He's been at the top of the defense guarding Beal or Wall.
don't engage

he has an agenda

I realize that having seen some of his posts in other threads. 

But when it's blatantly obvious during a game that he's not watching the same game everyone else is, that's when you destroy his credibility (assuming he has any).

I've watched every second of this game -- read thru the stupid thread.  You literally just can't handle the objective truth, so you choose not to see it.

Where was he offensively at the end?  Why is Tatum the guy we continually went to for buckets?  He's a supertstar, MVP etc.

edit: Personal attack reported.  Easier to see the game when u played D1.

You're incorrigible. 

What personal attack?  Your posts define "lack of credibility" based on an pre-existing agenda which precedes you by reputation.  When you're wrong, you report people for "personal attacks" to vindicate yourself evej when shown to be wrong?  And lose the condescending attitude.

He does this. I once just listed Kyrie's accolades and he labeled it a personal attack. Just do what another poster said, don't engage. Just report him when he's in game threads legit cheering on other teams.

I've never cheered on another team.  He said I have a lack of credibility, which is a personal attack.  Point out a single example.

From the Memphis game thread:
Nice, 12-3 run here.  Let's go Memphis!!!

Hope MEM can find a way to pull this one out.
ouch!

Lol, that's awesome.

He's also said on several occasions that he'll be rooting for the Cavs if/when they play the C's in the playoffs.
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Re: Wizards (18-15) at Celtics (27-9) Game #37 12/25/17
« Reply #320 on: December 26, 2017, 08:36:57 AM »

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There are a few people on this blog (someone other than tarheels is the main culprit) who think their opinions carry more weight because they played college or pro ball or played for a certain coach whose name we recognize.  That stuff is ridiculous and irrelevant.   Just remember,  dummies like Fab Melo, James Young, and Jordan Mickey played for great coaches and played in the NBA.  Guys like Lawrence Frank, Greg Popovich, and Erik Spoelstra didn’t.

I think I know exactly who you're referring to.

Re: Wizards (18-15) at Celtics (27-9) Game #37 12/25/17
« Reply #321 on: December 26, 2017, 01:31:09 PM »

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This one is done.  Sorry Kyrie was horrible defensively and failed to show up in the 4th quarter. Those clutch stats took a hit tonight.  Tatum looks promising as a go-to option though, and we have the assets to eventually land a two-way superstar.

Again, maybe your argument would be taken more seriously if you weren't simultaneously butthurt over losing IT, who is objectively an even worse defender. Until you can remedy this contradiction outside of IT "making you feel like a little boy again," your arguments are null, meaningless, and pretty clearly rooted in a strong anti-Kyrie bias.

That's not a personal attack at all. 

You whined about IT in every single game thread for 2 years.  How many times did I call you on it?  Never.  Why not, tarheels?  Because I couldn't care less what you thought of one player -- one of my favorite players to ever wear green, to boot.  We still had solid exchanges, and frankly, that was your prerogative.  You're blatantly insulting me here.  I don't care if nameless, 17 year old boys sling insults at me, but I expected more from you.
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Re: Wizards (18-15) at Celtics (27-9) Game #37 12/25/17
« Reply #322 on: December 26, 2017, 01:32:23 PM »

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Officially on the “Kyrie plays hero ball down the stretch and it hurts us” train

hero ball, hero ball?  seriously.  KI had the layup that just barely rolled off the rim.  that just after draining a long 3.   ::)

He's a -13.  We are hiding him on Oubre,  and Oubre keeps scoring.  He has sucked,. But hey, 20 pts

Since when are the C's hiding KI on D?  He's been at the top of the defense guarding Beal or Wall.
don't engage

he has an agenda

I realize that having seen some of his posts in other threads. 

But when it's blatantly obvious during a game that he's not watching the same game everyone else is, that's when you destroy his credibility (assuming he has any).

I've watched every second of this game -- read thru the stupid thread.  You literally just can't handle the objective truth, so you choose not to see it.

Where was he offensively at the end?  Why is Tatum the guy we continually went to for buckets?  He's a supertstar, MVP etc.

edit: Personal attack reported.  Easier to see the game when u played D1.

You're incorrigible. 

What personal attack?  Your posts define "lack of credibility" based on an pre-existing agenda which precedes you by reputation.  When you're wrong, you report people for "personal attacks" to vindicate yourself evej when shown to be wrong?  And lose the condescending attitude.

He does this. I once just listed Kyrie's accolades and he labeled it a personal attack. Just do what another poster said, don't engage. Just report him when he's in game threads legit cheering on other teams.

I've never cheered on another team.  He said I have a lack of credibility, which is a personal attack.  Point out a single example.

From the Memphis game thread:
Nice, 12-3 run here.  Let's go Memphis!!!

Hope MEM can find a way to pull this one out.
ouch!

Lol, that's awesome.

He's also said on several occasions that he'll be rooting for the Cavs if/when they play the C's in the playoffs.

It was sarcasm.  Go dig up the rest of my posts.  I also never explicitly said that, though it is true.  I'm sorry if that upsets you.  Go tend to your Jaylen-Ayton thread... you were buried in that one. 
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Re: Wizards (18-15) at Celtics (27-9) Game #37 12/25/17
« Reply #323 on: December 26, 2017, 01:34:02 PM »

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Imagine ratting someone out for a personal attack, that's precious LOL.

Snowflake.

TP.

I'm the snowflake?  Lol.  I'm literally the opposite, and it seems to constantly upset others.  This is also a personal attack, as is the TP.  Reported.
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Re: Wizards (18-15) at Celtics (27-9) Game #37 12/25/17
« Reply #324 on: December 26, 2017, 01:36:54 PM »

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Officially on the “Kyrie plays hero ball down the stretch and it hurts us” train

hero ball, hero ball?  seriously.  KI had the layup that just barely rolled off the rim.  that just after draining a long 3.   ::)

He's a -13.  We are hiding him on Oubre,  and Oubre keeps scoring.  He has sucked,. But hey, 20 pts

Since when are the C's hiding KI on D?  He's been at the top of the defense guarding Beal or Wall.
don't engage

he has an agenda

I realize that having seen some of his posts in other threads. 

But when it's blatantly obvious during a game that he's not watching the same game everyone else is, that's when you destroy his credibility (assuming he has any).

I've watched every second of this game -- read thru the stupid thread.  You literally just can't handle the objective truth, so you choose not to see it.

Where was he offensively at the end?  Why is Tatum the guy we continually went to for buckets?  He's a supertstar, MVP etc.

edit: Personal attack reported.  Easier to see the game when u played D1.

You're incorrigible. 

What personal attack?  Your posts define "lack of credibility" based on an pre-existing agenda which precedes you by reputation.  When you're wrong, you resort to reporting people for "personal attacks" to vindicate yourself even when shown to be biased and flat out wrong.  And do me a favor and lose your condescending attitude, mkay, or I'll give something real, not imagined, to report me for.

Okay.  I will create a thread tomorrow.  It will be entirely for your benefit. I will timestamp every single possession that Kyrie was beat or responsible for points tonight. I've literally been accurate in every single post I've made this thread.  Again, I am sorry.  But who cares??? We weren't contending this year anyway.  It's not that big of a deal.  And his movie will probably be awesome.  There's lots of NBA players in it, I think.

Hold on there, pardner, you're changing the playing field in a further attempt to rationalize your agenda (more below).  This is what you wrote taken verbatim:

"I'll rewatch the game and give you timestamps for all the possessions he was hidden on Oubre.  I get it... his brand is super cool.  But you guys need to open yuor eyes if you want to effectively argue this stuff."

Put up or shut up if you can't find evidence that KI was hidden on Oubre (which is what the C's had to do all year long last year with IT especially in last year's playoffs) in tonight's game. 

Additionally, why do you continually harp on KI"s "brand" or making a movie.  what does that have to do with his play tonight (or any other night for that matter).  Why does that matter to you.  Do you make similar snide remarks directed at other NBA stars when they make commercials?  If not, why not? 

The point is that your overweening hatred of all things KI in favor of your boy, IT who is long gone (get over it), colors your perceptions during games making them unworthy of credibility notwithstanding your appeals to yourself as an authority (claiming you played D1 collegiate B ball).   Since it matters to you beuilding up your self esteem, were you a starter or an end-of-the-bench towel waver living off your high school press clippings? 

In any case, I await with bated breath for not just timestamped instances demonstratively showing KI singled on Oubre to "hide him" (on defense) but actual gifs or clips taken from tonight's game showing that to be the case.

I decided against it -- you can watch the game for yourself, assuming you're a big boy.  He was clearly hidden on Oubre because he's a horrible defender. 

A quicker way for you to get a sense of Kyrie's defense is to simply Google it -- you'll get tons of results right up until this summer.  He drove CLE fans nuts. 

Reported for multiple personal attacks, pardner.
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Re: Wizards (18-15) at Celtics (27-9) Game #37 12/25/17
« Reply #325 on: December 26, 2017, 01:44:07 PM »

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Not a lot of Christmas spirit in this game thread!

Dissapointing night. Tatum looked really terrific. Won't dwell on the negatives so I'll leave it there.

This team will figure it out Marcus Morris was obviously rusty but getting him back should really help. When he has been out we have really relied on Irving's ability to create in tough situations too much. As Tatum gets more involved and morris returns we should be in better shape.

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Re: Wizards (18-15) at Celtics (27-9) Game #37 12/25/17
« Reply #326 on: December 26, 2017, 01:54:00 PM »

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And for whatever this is worth, oubre scored 5 of his 16 points on irving and grabbed 1 offensive rebound that Irving was responsible for.
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Re: Wizards (18-15) at Celtics (27-9) Game #37 12/25/17
« Reply #327 on: December 26, 2017, 01:58:17 PM »

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Officially on the “Kyrie plays hero ball down the stretch and it hurts us” train

hero ball, hero ball?  seriously.  KI had the layup that just barely rolled off the rim.  that just after draining a long 3.   ::)

He's a -13.  We are hiding him on Oubre,  and Oubre keeps scoring.  He has sucked,. But hey, 20 pts

Since when are the C's hiding KI on D?  He's been at the top of the defense guarding Beal or Wall.
don't engage

he has an agenda

I realize that having seen some of his posts in other threads. 

But when it's blatantly obvious during a game that he's not watching the same game everyone else is, that's when you destroy his credibility (assuming he has any).

I've watched every second of this game -- read thru the stupid thread.  You literally just can't handle the objective truth, so you choose not to see it.

Where was he offensively at the end?  Why is Tatum the guy we continually went to for buckets?  He's a supertstar, MVP etc.

edit: Personal attack reported.  Easier to see the game when u played D1.

You're incorrigible. 

What personal attack?  Your posts define "lack of credibility" based on an pre-existing agenda which precedes you by reputation.  When you're wrong, you resort to reporting people for "personal attacks" to vindicate yourself even when shown to be biased and flat out wrong.  And do me a favor and lose your condescending attitude, mkay, or I'll give something real, not imagined, to report me for.

Okay.  I will create a thread tomorrow.  It will be entirely for your benefit. I will timestamp every single possession that Kyrie was beat or responsible for points tonight. I've literally been accurate in every single post I've made this thread.  Again, I am sorry.  But who cares??? We weren't contending this year anyway.  It's not that big of a deal.  And his movie will probably be awesome.  There's lots of NBA players in it, I think.

Hold on there, pardner, you're changing the playing field in a further attempt to rationalize your agenda (more below).  This is what you wrote taken verbatim:

"I'll rewatch the game and give you timestamps for all the possessions he was hidden on Oubre.  I get it... his brand is super cool.  But you guys need to open yuor eyes if you want to effectively argue this stuff."

Put up or shut up if you can't find evidence that KI was hidden on Oubre (which is what the C's had to do all year long last year with IT especially in last year's playoffs) in tonight's game. 

Additionally, why do you continually harp on KI"s "brand" or making a movie.  what does that have to do with his play tonight (or any other night for that matter).  Why does that matter to you.  Do you make similar snide remarks directed at other NBA stars when they make commercials?  If not, why not? 

The point is that your overweening hatred of all things KI in favor of your boy, IT who is long gone (get over it), colors your perceptions during games making them unworthy of credibility notwithstanding your appeals to yourself as an authority (claiming you played D1 collegiate B ball).   Since it matters to you beuilding up your self esteem, were you a starter or an end-of-the-bench towel waver living off your high school press clippings? 

In any case, I await with bated breath for not just timestamped instances demonstratively showing KI singled on Oubre to "hide him" (on defense) but actual gifs or clips taken from tonight's game showing that to be the case.

I decided against it -- you can watch the game for yourself, assuming you're a big boy.  He was clearly hidden on Oubre because he's a horrible defender. 

A quicker way for you to get a sense of Kyrie's defense is to simply Google it -- you'll get tons of results right up until this summer.  He drove CLE fans nuts. 

Reported for multiple personal attacks, pardner.

You say it as though being a snitch (the very antithesis of having character) is something be proud about. You continue to stir the post and then get all defensive when people call you out. If you can't take people calling you out, then stop being an instigator. You can't have it both ways. I'm sure the mods have better things to do then deal with your petulant crying about these perceived "personal attacks".
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Re: Wizards (18-15) at Celtics (27-9) Game #37 12/25/17
« Reply #328 on: December 26, 2017, 02:24:27 PM »

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Officially on the “Kyrie plays hero ball down the stretch and it hurts us” train

hero ball, hero ball?  seriously.  KI had the layup that just barely rolled off the rim.  that just after draining a long 3.   ::)

He's a -13.  We are hiding him on Oubre,  and Oubre keeps scoring.  He has sucked,. But hey, 20 pts

Since when are the C's hiding KI on D?  He's been at the top of the defense guarding Beal or Wall.
don't engage

he has an agenda

I realize that having seen some of his posts in other threads. 

But when it's blatantly obvious during a game that he's not watching the same game everyone else is, that's when you destroy his credibility (assuming he has any).

I've watched every second of this game -- read thru the stupid thread.  You literally just can't handle the objective truth, so you choose not to see it.

Where was he offensively at the end?  Why is Tatum the guy we continually went to for buckets?  He's a supertstar, MVP etc.

edit: Personal attack reported.  Easier to see the game when u played D1.

You're incorrigible. 

What personal attack?  Your posts define "lack of credibility" based on an pre-existing agenda which precedes you by reputation.  When you're wrong, you resort to reporting people for "personal attacks" to vindicate yourself even when shown to be biased and flat out wrong.  And do me a favor and lose your condescending attitude, mkay, or I'll give something real, not imagined, to report me for.

Okay.  I will create a thread tomorrow.  It will be entirely for your benefit. I will timestamp every single possession that Kyrie was beat or responsible for points tonight. I've literally been accurate in every single post I've made this thread.  Again, I am sorry.  But who cares??? We weren't contending this year anyway.  It's not that big of a deal.  And his movie will probably be awesome.  There's lots of NBA players in it, I think.

Hold on there, pardner, you're changing the playing field in a further attempt to rationalize your agenda (more below).  This is what you wrote taken verbatim:

"I'll rewatch the game and give you timestamps for all the possessions he was hidden on Oubre.  I get it... his brand is super cool.  But you guys need to open yuor eyes if you want to effectively argue this stuff."

Put up or shut up if you can't find evidence that KI was hidden on Oubre (which is what the C's had to do all year long last year with IT especially in last year's playoffs) in tonight's game. 

Additionally, why do you continually harp on KI"s "brand" or making a movie.  what does that have to do with his play tonight (or any other night for that matter).  Why does that matter to you.  Do you make similar snide remarks directed at other NBA stars when they make commercials?  If not, why not? 

The point is that your overweening hatred of all things KI in favor of your boy, IT who is long gone (get over it), colors your perceptions during games making them unworthy of credibility notwithstanding your appeals to yourself as an authority (claiming you played D1 collegiate B ball).   Since it matters to you beuilding up your self esteem, were you a starter or an end-of-the-bench towel waver living off your high school press clippings? 

In any case, I await with bated breath for not just timestamped instances demonstratively showing KI singled on Oubre to "hide him" (on defense) but actual gifs or clips taken from tonight's game showing that to be the case.

I decided against it -- you can watch the game for yourself, assuming you're a big boy.  He was clearly hidden on Oubre because he's a horrible defender. 

A quicker way for you to get a sense of Kyrie's defense is to simply Google it -- you'll get tons of results right up until this summer.  He drove CLE fans nuts. 

Reported for multiple personal attacks, pardner.

You say it as though being a snitch (the very antithesis of having character) is something be proud about. You continue to stir the post and then get all defensive when people call you out. If you can't take people calling you out, then stop being an instigator. You can't have it both ways. I'm sure the mods have better things to do then deal with your petulant crying about these perceived "personal attacks".

Well, if someone is truly being attacked, they have a right to report it. Bragging about reporting it is rather odd, though. And I don't see the benefit of telling people you're reporting them, that seems like nothing more than adding fuel to the fire.

But as far as I can tell, this person isn't really being attacked. For the most part it's just people pointing out trollish behavior. If you're going to troll people just don't be surprised when they call you out on it.

Re: Wizards (18-15) at Celtics (27-9) Game #37 12/25/17
« Reply #329 on: December 26, 2017, 02:42:37 PM »

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This one is done.  Sorry Kyrie was horrible defensively and failed to show up in the 4th quarter. Those clutch stats took a hit tonight.  Tatum looks promising as a go-to option though, and we have the assets to eventually land a two-way superstar.

Again, maybe your argument would be taken more seriously if you weren't simultaneously butthurt over losing IT, who is objectively an even worse defender. Until you can remedy this contradiction outside of IT "making you feel like a little boy again," your arguments are null, meaningless, and pretty clearly rooted in a strong anti-Kyrie bias.

That's not a personal attack at all. 

You whined about IT in every single game thread for 2 years.  How many times did I call you on it?  Never.  Why not, tarheels?  Because I couldn't care less what you thought of one player -- one of my favorite players to ever wear green, to boot.  We still had solid exchanges, and frankly, that was your prerogative.  You're blatantly insulting me here.  I don't care if nameless, 17 year old boys sling insults at me, but I expected more from you.

Lol Tarheels, buddy, you need to relax with this personal attack stuff. I’m in no way personally attacking you or blatantly insulting you; I’m calling out on your faulty logic, which you have yet to address and are conveniently ignoring. That’s completely different than personally attacking you. I’m not sure why you’re on a sports thread if you both (a) can’t take personal attacks in the first place, and (b) consider someone stating that you’re utilizing faulty logic a personal attack. That is non-sense, snowflake-level stuff, which I know you’re not.

And regarding the IT stuff, yeah, I criticized him a lot, but I also gave him his fair props when he deserved it and actively rooted for him as a Celtic. You’ve went way beyond the types of criticism that I gave IT into the territory of an irrational bias against Kyrie.

EDIT: Hell, you just stated above that you hope IT and Cleveland beat us in the playoffs. As much as I disliked IT’s game, I never once rooted against him as a Celtic. That’s a whole other level of hate.