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Re: What Makes A Player a "Scorer"? (Debate among co-workers).
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2017, 06:49:35 PM »

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They're both scorers.

I think a scorer is anybody whose skills allow them to score consistently, at a reasonable volume, and in a variety of ways, without needing to expend a great deal of effort.  A scorer is not necessarily hyper efficient, but a scorer should be able to regularly create offense out of bad situations.
I think that's the key. Someone who can regularly create a decent shot out of nothing.

I don't even think scoring versatility is important. I think Shaq was a great scorer but he really only did it one way: out the of post.

Re: What Makes A Player a "Scorer"? (Debate among co-workers).
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2017, 07:33:46 PM »

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Needs to be a little selfish

Knows the angles/tricks to get shot off

Knows how to get to the line

Likes 80 percent of shots to take

Re: What Makes A Player a "Scorer"? (Debate among co-workers).
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2017, 07:43:30 PM »

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I always saw a scorer as a guy who could manipulate his defender to force a foul or get off a clean shot on a consistent basis against 70% of his competition.

Shooters I look at as guys who take shots only when plays are designed for them or they are open. They want clean looks.


Scorers usually look for contact while shooters shy away from it.
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Re: What Makes A Player a "Scorer"? (Debate among co-workers).
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2017, 07:54:43 PM »

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They're both scorers.

I think a scorer is anybody whose skills allow them to score consistently, at a reasonable volume, and in a variety of ways, without needing to expend a great deal of effort.  A scorer is not necessarily hyper efficient, but a scorer should be able to regularly create offense out of bad situations.
I think that's the key. Someone who can regularly create a decent shot out of nothing.

I don't even think scoring versatility is important. I think Shaq was a great scorer but he really only did it one way: out the of post.

So would you consider Rondo a Great Scorer, This is his MO right.. Creating great offense out of nothing.

Re: What Makes A Player a "Scorer"? (Debate among co-workers).
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2017, 08:54:34 PM »

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I always considered the "scorer' label to be a mutually exclusive one. So a scorer is somewhat limited-- strictly a shot creator (for himself) that can go off at any given time.  For example, Jamal Crawford, Lou Williams, Carmelo, etc. I'd like to sneak Swaggy P in there because "Swaggy P."

Other guys can be elite offensive talents, but if they do a lot more than that, I'd add to that title.  For example, I'd consider Westbrook a 'score first PG, and LeBron a 'beast.'

That said, I think you should quit goofing around at work, pal.
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« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2017, 09:30:04 PM »

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Scorer almost has a negative connotation in my mind.  Like it is the only thing you can do.
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Re: What Makes A Player a "Scorer"? (Debate among co-workers).
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2017, 09:38:00 PM »

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Scorer almost has a negative connotation in my mind.  Like it is the only thing you can do.

Same. You said it more efficiently than I.
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Re: What Makes A Player a "Scorer"? (Debate among co-workers).
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2017, 08:11:03 AM »

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They're both scorers.

I think a scorer is anybody whose skills allow them to score consistently, at a reasonable volume, and in a variety of ways, without needing to expend a great deal of effort.  A scorer is not necessarily hyper efficient, but a scorer should be able to regularly create offense out of bad situations.
I think that's the key. Someone who can regularly create a decent shot out of nothing.

I don't even think scoring versatility is important. I think Shaq was a great scorer but he really only did it one way: out the of post.

So would you consider Rondo a Great Scorer, This is his MO right.. Creating great offense out of nothing.
Rondo is amazing at creating for others but not much for himself. He's occasionally able to make terrific shots but he doesn't do it regularly and never did.

Re: What Makes A Player a "Scorer"? (Debate among co-workers).
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2017, 08:15:57 AM »

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Needs to be a little selfish
Knows the angles/tricks to get shot off
Knows how to get to the line
Likes 80 percent of shots to take
TP. I like this short explanation.
It can be implemented to soccer, handball, waterpolo etc.
"Knows how to get to the line" would just be;
How to get fouled (for a free kick/9m/earn oponents 2 min suspension) or
How to get a penalty kick/shot (11m/7m/4m).
The rest can remain universaly unchained.
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