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Re: Okafor to the Nets
« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2017, 02:24:52 PM »

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What a great trade for the Nets. Booker has been good for them, but not as good as people seem to think. They have Carroll. RHJ, and Lavert who all need minutes. Each of those guys can play small-ball 4 in their uptempo gunner offense.

Booker slid over to the 5 often, but he was just as undersized there as the other guys I just mentioned.

The Nets are doing exactly what they need to do as an organization. They have a really good coach that is changing their culture. They have versatile athletes on the wing. Now they have two lottery talents at 1 and 5 who are both really talented offensive forces.

I'll be fascinated to see how Atkins forms a scheme around those guys, especially defensively, but this is a respectable team. If Okafor comes in with something to prove, and the Nets organization inspires confidence in him, this is a team that will flirt with the 8 seed all season. I think they are right there with the Heat and Knicks, primarily because of their coach.
Okafor's a lottery talent like Anthony Bennett and Darko Milicic are 'lottery' talents.  it's in position only, certainly not based on performance.

That's why I didn't say they get a great player performing well. I said they get a lottery talent. The offensive skill is the talent, and that is undeniable, even if you go back to his rookie season.

You can't trade Trevor Booker for a lottery talent that is performing well.

Re: Okafor to the Nets
« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2018, 08:59:53 AM »

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so with Philly releasing Booker, the trade from their end is here Brooklyn take Okafor, Stauskas, and a 2nd rounder from us and we will pay Booker to get released. 

Sixers were much better off with Hinkie running the show.  They have signed some terrible contracts (though Redick was a good one), made that awful Fultz trade, and have terribly mishandled Noel and Okafor.  All since Hinkie was replaced. 

Re: Okafor to the Nets
« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2018, 09:02:52 AM »

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so with Philly releasing Booker, the trade from their end is here Brooklyn take Okafor, Stauskas, and a 2nd rounder from us and we will pay Booker to get released. 

Sixers were much better off with Hinkie running the show.  They have signed some terrible contracts (though Redick was a good one), made that awful Fultz trade, and have terribly mishandled Noel and Okafor.  All since Hinkie was replaced.

Who is "us". Are we Philly?


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Re: Okafor to the Nets
« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2018, 09:18:14 AM »

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so with Philly releasing Booker, the trade from their end is here Brooklyn take Okafor, Stauskas, and a 2nd rounder from us and we will pay Booker to get released. 

Sixers were much better off with Hinkie running the show.  They have signed some terrible contracts (though Redick was a good one), made that awful Fultz trade, and have terribly mishandled Noel and Okafor.  All since Hinkie was replaced.

Who is "us". Are we Philly?

Read his post again carefully.
Idiot.

Re: Okafor to the Nets
« Reply #49 on: March 04, 2018, 03:51:55 PM »

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I’ll take Monroe over Okafor all day. Is Okafor even part of their rotation at this point?

Re: Okafor to the Nets
« Reply #50 on: March 04, 2018, 04:21:13 PM »

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so with Philly releasing Booker, the trade from their end is here Brooklyn take Okafor, Stauskas, and a 2nd rounder from us and we will pay Booker to get released. 

Sixers were much better off with Hinkie running the show.  They have signed some terrible contracts (though Redick was a good one), made that awful Fultz trade, and have terribly mishandled Noel and Okafor.  All since Hinkie was replaced.
We don't know if the Fultz trade was awful yet. Fultz may turn out to be the player we were all clamoring for when we got the #1 pick. If he pans out, I don't think Philly cares about the other lottery pick they gave up.

Re: Okafor to the Nets
« Reply #51 on: March 04, 2018, 04:40:23 PM »

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so with Philly releasing Booker, the trade from their end is here Brooklyn take Okafor, Stauskas, and a 2nd rounder from us and we will pay Booker to get released. 

Sixers were much better off with Hinkie running the show.  They have signed some terrible contracts (though Redick was a good one), made that awful Fultz trade, and have terribly mishandled Noel and Okafor.  All since Hinkie was replaced.
We don't know if the Fultz trade was awful yet. Fultz may turn out to be the player we were all clamoring for when we got the #1 pick. If he pans out, I don't think Philly cares about the other lottery pick they gave up.

Speak for yourself.  I was never clamoring for Fultz as the top pick.

Re: Okafor to the Nets
« Reply #52 on: March 04, 2018, 04:44:28 PM »

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so with Philly releasing Booker, the trade from their end is here Brooklyn take Okafor, Stauskas, and a 2nd rounder from us and we will pay Booker to get released. 

Sixers were much better off with Hinkie running the show.  They have signed some terrible contracts (though Redick was a good one), made that awful Fultz trade, and have terribly mishandled Noel and Okafor.  All since Hinkie was replaced.
The mishandling of Okafor occurred by drafting him, which happened Under Hinkie’s watch.

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« Reply #53 on: March 04, 2018, 05:10:40 PM »

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so with Philly releasing Booker, the trade from their end is here Brooklyn take Okafor, Stauskas, and a 2nd rounder from us and we will pay Booker to get released. 

Sixers were much better off with Hinkie running the show.  They have signed some terrible contracts (though Redick was a good one), made that awful Fultz trade, and have terribly mishandled Noel and Okafor.  All since Hinkie was replaced.
The mishandling of Okafor occurred by drafting him, which happened Under Hinkie’s watch.

Especially drafting him over Porzingis, who would have been an exceptional fit next to Embiid.

Re: Okafor to the Nets
« Reply #54 on: March 04, 2018, 05:16:22 PM »

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so with Philly releasing Booker, the trade from their end is here Brooklyn take Okafor, Stauskas, and a 2nd rounder from us and we will pay Booker to get released. 

Sixers were much better off with Hinkie running the show.  They have signed some terrible contracts (though Redick was a good one), made that awful Fultz trade, and have terribly mishandled Noel and Okafor.  All since Hinkie was replaced.
The mishandling of Okafor occurred by drafting him, which happened Under Hinkie’s watch.

Especially drafting him over Porzingis, who would have been an exceptional fit next to Embiid.
In all fairness to Philly, Porzingas and his agent did everything humanly possible to let Philly know, he didn't want to be there and that he wouldn't come to the team if drafted.

Re: Okafor to the Nets
« Reply #55 on: March 04, 2018, 05:43:41 PM »

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so with Philly releasing Booker, the trade from their end is here Brooklyn take Okafor, Stauskas, and a 2nd rounder from us and we will pay Booker to get released. 

Sixers were much better off with Hinkie running the show.  They have signed some terrible contracts (though Redick was a good one), made that awful Fultz trade, and have terribly mishandled Noel and Okafor.  All since Hinkie was replaced.
The mishandling of Okafor occurred by drafting him, which happened Under Hinkie’s watch.

Especially drafting him over Porzingis, who would have been an exceptional fit next to Embiid.
In all fairness to Philly, Porzingas and his agent did everything humanly possible to let Philly know, he didn't want to be there and that he wouldn't come to the team if drafted.
Embiid had re-injured his foot and undergone a 2nd surgery.  Russell was taken by the Lakers.  KP was a project who wanted to be in New York so he wouldn't work out for the Sixers.  Drafting Okafor was the logical choice. 

The problem was not moving on from Okafor sooner.  On the other hand Okafor helped them get the worst record which allowed them to draft Simmons.  That probably doesn't happen if they draft KP.  I think Simmons/Embiid is a much better combo than Porzingis/Embiid. 

Re: Okafor to the Nets
« Reply #56 on: March 04, 2018, 05:49:58 PM »

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so with Philly releasing Booker, the trade from their end is here Brooklyn take Okafor, Stauskas, and a 2nd rounder from us and we will pay Booker to get released. 

Sixers were much better off with Hinkie running the show.  They have signed some terrible contracts (though Redick was a good one), made that awful Fultz trade, and have terribly mishandled Noel and Okafor.  All since Hinkie was replaced.
The mishandling of Okafor occurred by drafting him, which happened Under Hinkie’s watch.

Especially drafting him over Porzingis, who would have been an exceptional fit next to Embiid.
In all fairness to Philly, Porzingas and his agent did everything humanly possible to let Philly know, he didn't want to be there and that he wouldn't come to the team if drafted.
Embiid had re-injured his foot and undergone a 2nd surgery.  Russell was taken by the Lakers.  KP was a project who wanted to be in New York so he wouldn't work out for the Sixers.  Drafting Okafor was the logical choice. 

This simply isn't true. Even with Embiid's injury, they also had Noel which should've been obvious he wouldn't be able to play alongside Okafor. In addition, why did they have to make a selection? The Celtics were also floating around godfather type offers trying to obtain Winslow. Just that package alone would've put them in a much better position, both in terms of talent and fit, moving forward.

Even the biggest Hinkie apologist would admit he struck out badly in that draft.

Re: Okafor to the Nets
« Reply #57 on: March 04, 2018, 05:50:39 PM »

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Okafor was more resistant to Philly than Porzingis as I recall. And who cares about that. Plenty to evaluate any of these guys. If Danny thought Ball was the best fit and best player in draft he would have drafted him regardless of his not coming in. These players have no leverage.

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« Reply #58 on: March 04, 2018, 07:38:39 PM »

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If it makes sense on some level bringing in Okafor for almost nothing the way we did with Evan Turner.....I could get behind that. Stevens seems to help everyone's career and get the most out of them

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« Reply #59 on: March 04, 2018, 07:45:26 PM »

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so with Philly releasing Booker, the trade from their end is here Brooklyn take Okafor, Stauskas, and a 2nd rounder from us and we will pay Booker to get released. 

Sixers were much better off with Hinkie running the show.  They have signed some terrible contracts (though Redick was a good one), made that awful Fultz trade, and have terribly mishandled Noel and Okafor.  All since Hinkie was replaced.
The mishandling of Okafor occurred by drafting him, which happened Under Hinkie’s watch.

Especially drafting him over Porzingis, who would have been an exceptional fit next to Embiid.
In all fairness to Philly, Porzingas and his agent did everything humanly possible to let Philly know, he didn't want to be there and that he wouldn't come to the team if drafted.
Embiid had re-injured his foot and undergone a 2nd surgery.  Russell was taken by the Lakers.  KP was a project who wanted to be in New York so he wouldn't work out for the Sixers.  Drafting Okafor was the logical choice. 

This simply isn't true. Even with Embiid's injury, they also had Noel which should've been obvious he wouldn't be able to play alongside Okafor. In addition, why did they have to make a selection? The Celtics were also floating around godfather type offers trying to obtain Winslow. Just that package alone would've put them in a much better position, both in terms of talent and fit, moving forward.

Even the biggest Hinkie apologist would admit he struck out badly in that draft.

Well tazz is one and won't admit it