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Re: Trade idea: Barea
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2017, 07:52:30 AM »

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If we need a scoring point guard why are we trading for one? we have an open roster spot that we can use.

Highly likely thought that this is not a priority for us and the length of Rozier is worth more to Brad than the scoring... but I guess these threads are going to come thick and fast at the moment..
I don't necessarliy think they need a scoring PG. They just need a gaurd that can create offense/score. I think someone like a Marco Belinelli or Lou Williams type. Basically someone you who can score off the bench when the starters arent in so they do not continue to have an anemic scoring bench.

Re: Trade idea: Barea
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2017, 08:19:18 AM »

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If we need a scoring point guard why are we trading for one? we have an open roster spot that we can use.

Highly likely thought that this is not a priority for us and the length of Rozier is worth more to Brad than the scoring... but I guess these threads are going to come thick and fast at the moment..

Because Barea is a really good player on a really good contract.  He’s certainly better than Rozier.


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Re: Trade idea: Barea
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2017, 08:27:00 AM »

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I'd honestly rather have Rozier than Barea long term.  Barea is obviously a better offensive player, but Rozier is a better defender and rebounder.  I just see Rozier's peak at a good deal higher than Barea's current play level.
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Re: Trade idea: Barea
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2017, 10:26:22 AM »

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This thread is nothing but baiting.

In no universe is Barea worth giving up assets for. 


Re: Trade idea: Barea
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2017, 10:27:31 AM »

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This thread is nothing but baiting.

In no universe is Barea worth giving up assets for.

I don't necessarily agree with this. Barea is a solid backup guard who can run the offense and keep  his team getting good shots.

But I wouldn't give Rozier up for him.

Re: Trade idea: Barea
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2017, 10:28:28 AM »

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This thread is nothing but baiting.

In no universe is Barea worth giving up assets for.

I don't necessarily agree with this. Barea is a solid backup guard who can run the offense and keep  his team getting good shots.

But I wouldn't give Rozier up for him.

Exactly... in no universe is Rozier + picks getting traded for Barea no matter how the last 10 games have gone.

Just a bait thread.

Re: Trade idea: Barea
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2017, 10:30:23 AM »

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It's a good trade idea.... but I wouldn't be any rush to do it. It's a win now type move, the team is currently already winning. But maybe as the playoffs get closer and a different player could put us in the finals... it's a good trade. Price seems sorta high currently for a journeyman, but could see that price being lower later in the season.

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Re: Trade idea: Barea
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2017, 10:42:55 AM »

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It's a good trade idea.... but I wouldn't be any rush to do it. It's a win now type move, the team is currently already winning. But maybe as the playoffs get closer and a different player could put us in the finals... it's a good trade. Price seems sorta high currently for a journeyman, but could see that price being lower later in the season.

Danny's best move right now is patience.

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I'm not sure what you think a fair price for one of the best backup PG's in the league is, but my guess is Dallas wouldn't even accept the offer anyway. They have zero need for Rozier.

I agree Danny likely won't be trading any assets, as I doubt he sees the team as worthy of spending assets on.

For fans, it's all a matter of perspective. Some fans are content with whatever the roster is, some fans like to discuss ways to improve areas of weakness. Backup guard is absolutely a weakness in this team righting now. We have no one on the bench who can come in and reliably get their own shot or create offense for others.

Re: Trade idea: Barea
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2017, 10:44:20 AM »

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Fan of Barea, but no.

Re: Trade idea: Barea
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2017, 10:48:38 AM »

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I don't get this one.  Barea is a surprisingly good bench player (for his size) and is better offensively than Rozier but we would give up a lot defensively and in terms of rebounds.

I would just stick with Rozier.  No need to rearrange deck chairs right now.

Re: Trade idea: Barea
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2017, 10:56:30 AM »

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Who would Brad Stevens rather have on his squad?

Thats how you know this trade is a bad idea.  There is no way Brad is giving up Terry who can switch 1-3, takes care of the ball at an elite level and we've spent 3 years of development into.

For a 33 year old short point guard that does not play defense.

It's a ludicrous idea after you peel back one layer.




Re: Trade idea: Barea
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2017, 11:19:52 AM »

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This thread is nothing but baiting.

In no universe is Barea worth giving up assets for.

I don't necessarily agree with this. Barea is a solid backup guard who can run the offense and keep  his team getting good shots.

But I wouldn't give Rozier up for him.

And we already have Shane Larkin on the team to do just what Barea does.
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Re: Trade idea: Barea
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2017, 11:23:50 AM »

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There are better ways to improve our offense.

And Dallas doesn't need any further help in tanking, as long as they keep Dirk in starting lineup. Which they will.

Re: Trade idea: Barea
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2017, 12:27:52 PM »

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He'd be better than Larkin, for sure.  I've always really liked Barea.
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Re: Trade idea: Barea
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2017, 12:43:54 PM »

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If we need a scoring point guard why are we trading for one? we have an open roster spot that we can use.

Highly likely thought that this is not a priority for us and the length of Rozier is worth more to Brad than the scoring... but I guess these threads are going to come thick and fast at the moment..

Because Barea is a really good player on a really good contract.  He’s certainly better than Rozier.

Is he?  In both wins shares and box score plus/minus, Rozier beats Barea.  His defense measures as a bigger asset than Barea's offense.

These stats are to be taken with a grain of salt, especially this early in this season, but they do suggest that Barea > Rozier isn't a slam dunk at all.