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Re: Are there any Terry Rozier fans left?
« Reply #90 on: November 23, 2017, 03:18:01 PM »

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Rozier is just a limited player. I was never much of a fan, but I don't think it's unfair to expect him, or Smart, to shoot at least 40% from the floor. It's kind of pathetic frankly.

He's just going to have to play better.

agreed.

well i was hoping for the best but we need solid consistent contributors from bench. i refuse to believe we cannot do better than rozier off the bench...get to work Danny!

A sharpshooter to pair with either Smart or Rozier changes the bench dynamics significantly.

Hayward back, Morris to the bench and add a 40% 3-point guy -- and we'll have something.  In the meantime, we have two guys in Smart and TR who bring energy, effort, defense, change of pace, and an occasional big shot to the table.  C's aren't GSW yet.  But who here thought we would be?

Having a sharpshooter clearly would help.  But you still have two non-shooting guards, or ballhandlers in Stevens' system, on the floor at the same time.  It's a big problem.

I don't think anyone had particularly high expectations for Rozier this season.  What I did expect was better shooting percentages - right now through 19 games he's shooting a miserable 33.7% (significantly worse than last year) and 32.6% from 3 (marginally better than last year).  That's downright pathetic.  Add that to the fact that he hasn't made much strides in running PnR or in decision making and you have a disappointing player, even if expectations were low.

Rozier did have some very good moments in the 4th yesterday though.  Played with good energy, chipped in a few points and made a really good play where he rebounded the ball, pushed it aggressively up the court and kicked it out to Smart in transition who then passed it to Tatum for a wide open 3.  But otherwise he just isn't consistent enough.

Re: Are there any Terry Rozier fans left?
« Reply #91 on: November 23, 2017, 04:32:39 PM »

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It's not that Rozier sucks, it's just that he should be handling the ball about as much as Avery Bradley. When he catches and shoots or comes off a pick, then catches and shoots, he seems to be very effective. It's when he tries to create for himself that he gets out of control. On outside shots, once he picks up his dribble and raises up, he drifts about 5 feet in the air before landing. And we all know his finishing limitations despite his ability to get by his man.

I am not giving up on Rozier. He rebounds like a mad man, doesn't turn it over (despite dribbling it off his foot last night), seems to hit open/set jumpers, and pokes the ball away from an offensive player as well as anybody. I am all for bringing in another 'sharp-shooter', but the defensive dynamics would change greatly if it's at the expense of Rozier.

Re: Are there any Terry Rozier fans left?
« Reply #92 on: November 23, 2017, 06:00:21 PM »

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Rozier has value on this team. It's just not shooting the ball... Good defense, excellent rebounding, doesn't turn the ball over. He must be doing something right to be a part of the team with the best record.

Instead of trying to get rid of a player that contributes to winning, why not think about trading some of our developmental players and picks. Surely we have enough of those things to acquire the journeyman scorer or sharpshooter or big man or whatever....

Re: Are there any Terry Rozier fans left?
« Reply #93 on: November 23, 2017, 07:04:18 PM »

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Will Barton would be perfect for this team.  I would like to keep Terry and Marcus Smart as well.  I don’t think either of those guys are high level shot makers especially Marcus Smart but they take a lot of shots because they need to without a shot creator off the bench.  Barton would fit in perfectly.

Re: Are there any Terry Rozier fans left?
« Reply #94 on: November 23, 2017, 07:27:55 PM »

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Rozier was a plus one last night and he made his free throws in the clutch.
I don't understand why Celtic fans hate their players.

Maybe it was the 2-for-8 shooting?

So? He's a plus 1 playing with the second unit.
Morris was a minus 12.

Re: Are there any Terry Rozier fans left?
« Reply #95 on: November 23, 2017, 08:49:28 PM »

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I think its because he was built up prior to the start of last season that he was ready to have a "breakout season offensively" then he came out and was pretty much the same player. Same thing happened this year. He also tends to have tunnel vision and play selfishly when he has the ball IMO

Him and marcus could build the great wall of china with the amount of bricks they are putting up on the second unit.

Re: Are there any Terry Rozier fans left?
« Reply #96 on: November 23, 2017, 08:54:09 PM »

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Rozier was a plus one last night and he made his free throws in the clutch.
I don't understand why Celtic fans hate their players.

Maybe it was the 2-for-8 shooting?

So? He's a plus 1 playing with the second unit.
Morris was a minus 12.

Mbah a Moute was a +57 for the Rockets the other night. Best player ever?



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Re: Are there any Terry Rozier fans left?
« Reply #97 on: November 23, 2017, 09:05:41 PM »

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Rozier was a plus one last night and he made his free throws in the clutch.
I don't understand why Celtic fans hate their players.

Maybe it was the 2-for-8 shooting?

So? He's a plus 1 playing with the second unit.
Morris was a minus 12.

Mbah a Moute was a +57 for the Rockets the other night. Best player ever?
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Re: Are there any Terry Rozier fans left?
« Reply #98 on: November 23, 2017, 09:46:28 PM »

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Rozier was a plus one last night and he made his free throws in the clutch.
I don't understand why Celtic fans hate their players.

Maybe it was the 2-for-8 shooting?

So? He's a plus 1 playing with the second unit.
Morris was a minus 12.

Mbah a Moute was a +57 for the Rockets the other night. Best player ever?

Right?!? I found an old Michael Jordan box score where he went 1-15. Worst player ever?

Re: Are there any Terry Rozier fans left?
« Reply #99 on: November 23, 2017, 11:16:52 PM »

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Rozier was a plus one last night and he made his free throws in the clutch.
I don't understand why Celtic fans hate their players.

Maybe it was the 2-for-8 shooting?

So? He's a plus 1 playing with the second unit.
Morris was a minus 12.

Mbah a Moute was a +57 for the Rockets the other night. Best player ever?

When you lose an argument on facts, change the subject.

Re: Are there any Terry Rozier fans left?
« Reply #100 on: November 23, 2017, 11:29:33 PM »

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Rozier was a plus one last night and he made his free throws in the clutch.
I don't understand why Celtic fans hate their players.

Maybe it was the 2-for-8 shooting?

So? He's a plus 1 playing with the second unit.
Morris was a minus 12.

Mbah a Moute was a +57 for the Rockets the other night. Best player ever?

When you lose an argument on facts, change the subject.

Is 2-for-8 not a fact?

Is 33.7% FG% not a fact?

Offense matters.



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Re: Are there any Terry Rozier fans left?
« Reply #101 on: November 24, 2017, 12:11:18 AM »

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Rozier was a plus one last night and he made his free throws in the clutch.
I don't understand why Celtic fans hate their players.

Aha!  Mystery solved.  It's not that Rozier can't shoot, it's that he was tied down by previous wedding commitments ;).

Re: Are there any Terry Rozier fans left?
« Reply #102 on: November 24, 2017, 02:37:05 AM »

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Rozier was a plus one last night and he made his free throws in the clutch.
I don't understand why Celtic fans hate their players.

Maybe it was the 2-for-8 shooting?

So? He's a plus 1 playing with the second unit.
Morris was a minus 12.

Mbah a Moute was a +57 for the Rockets the other night. Best player ever?

When you lose an argument on facts, change the subject.

Is 2-for-8 not a fact?

Is 33.7% FG% not a fact?

Offense matters.

8 points, 6 rebounds, 2 steals, and 1 assist in 18 minutes and a plus 1.
We were outrebounded by 12. That is why we lost.
Rozier played well.

Re: Are there any Terry Rozier fans left?
« Reply #103 on: November 24, 2017, 08:38:37 AM »

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Rozier was a plus one last night and he made his free throws in the clutch.
I don't understand why Celtic fans hate their players.

Maybe it was the 2-for-8 shooting?

So? He's a plus 1 playing with the second unit.
Morris was a minus 12.

Mbah a Moute was a +57 for the Rockets the other night. Best player ever?

When you lose an argument on facts, change the subject.

Is 2-for-8 not a fact?

Is 33.7% FG% not a fact?

Offense matters.

And everything else doesn't?

Re: Are there any Terry Rozier fans left?
« Reply #104 on: November 24, 2017, 09:34:08 AM »

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Rozier was a plus one last night and he made his free throws in the clutch.
I don't understand why Celtic fans hate their players.

Maybe it was the 2-for-8 shooting?

So? He's a plus 1 playing with the second unit.
Morris was a minus 12.

TP and knock out.