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Cleveland Cavaliers (He Stays)
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Houston Rockets
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Los Angeles Clippers
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Los Angeles Lakers
32 (29.6%)
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Milwaukee Bucks
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San Antonio Spurs
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Re: Are We Doomed If Lebron Joins The Philadelphia 76ers Next Summer?
« Reply #330 on: May 18, 2018, 06:20:12 PM »

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Ill also add the lengths that people on this board go through to dream up ways of helping philly and imagine ways they could be quite great are quite humorous. I can't imagine what this board would be like if we had lost to them. Honestly.

You mean like your bro, LarBird, who seem to lose interest in posting here as soon as his Sixers are eliminated?

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« Reply #331 on: May 18, 2018, 06:22:32 PM »

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You guys are nuts thinking Fultz doesn't have any value (or virtually no value).

No, not no value. But not enough to entice a Kawhi trade with Spurs.

That is nuts.

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« Reply #332 on: May 18, 2018, 07:31:34 PM »

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Ill also add the lengths that people on this board go through to dream up ways of helping philly and imagine ways they could be quite great are quite humorous. I can't imagine what this board would be like if we had lost to them. Honestly.

You mean like your bro, LarBird, who seem to lose interest in posting here as soon as his Sixers are eliminated?

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Re: Are We Doomed If Lebron Joins The Philadelphia 76ers Next Summer?
« Reply #333 on: May 21, 2018, 08:38:13 AM »

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You guys are nuts thinking Fultz doesn't have any value (or virtually no value).

He has value.

But I highly doubt you can get Kawhi or another proven star if Fultz is the primary asset in the trade package. He's still a relative unknown at this point. Even Sixers fans say the same and wonder what his role will be for years to come.
But he wasn't the primary asset in the trade package in this thread.  Saric, Covington, Fultz, and 10 is a pretty solid package overall.  Obviously teams, like Boston, could beat that offer, but that isn't some crap offer either.
But it isn't a great offer either.
You're not going to get a great offer for a disgruntled star with 1 year left on his contract who is still recovering from a major injury.  PG, Cousins and Butler trades weren't considered great offers when those trades were made either.

That is probably true of the cousins trade, but I think the butler haul was pretty good. Lavine was 22 coming off a season he averaged 19 points, Dunn was a year removed from being a highly coveted player and the 7th pick was not terrible. Saric, despite the enfatuation of a vocal few on this board, is a 24 year old role player. The 10th pick is ok if you really love someone that falls, but probably doesn't have a ton of value pre-draft. It is not a horrible package, but i just don't see what it does for the spurs. They are blowing up a perennial contender to build around a headcase that maybe can't shoot, a role player, Murray and the 10th pic? What does that get them? to be a bottom 15 team indefinitely?
Lavine was coming off a pretty bad injury and in the final year of his rookie contract.  The Bulls are now faced with giving him a large extension after he played just 24 games for them (and he had by far his worst shooting season in his career, maybe that is just injury rust, or maybe not).  The Bulls also gave up the 16th pick in the trade.  It wasn't a terrible trade for the Bulls (especially since they seemingly got the draft pick right and Minnesota did not), but it was far from a good trade and unlike Leonard, Butler wasn't hurt and was not entering the final year of his contract (though obviously Butler was not as good as Leonard was). 
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Re: Are We Doomed If Lebron Joins The Philadelphia 76ers Next Summer?
« Reply #334 on: May 28, 2018, 12:12:22 AM »

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So this happens right? Then LeBron actually has help unlike going against a greenhorn Cís team. Man this guy isnt freaking human.

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« Reply #335 on: May 28, 2018, 12:46:13 AM »

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So this happens right? Then LeBron actually has help unlike going against a greenhorn Cís team. Man this guy isnt freaking human.
Doubt it. LeBron/Embiid/Simmons is totally dysfunctional. One guy with literally no range, one guy with a weak outside game and one guy with a streaky but average outside game. And they all can only thrive with the ball in their hands.

Their role players (Saric, Covington, Redick) are similar to the role players in Cleveland in terms of ability (Korver, Thompson, Hill).

LeBron and Love barely beat a team lead by Al Horford, plus a 20 and a 21 year old. LeBron, Simmons and Embiid doesn't beat Kyrie, GH, Al, 21 year old JT and 22 year old JB

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« Reply #336 on: May 30, 2018, 10:31:41 AM »

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If Colangelo gets fired and they hire David Griffin... the nightmare possibility can become a reality.  :o
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« Reply #337 on: May 30, 2018, 10:40:53 AM »

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« Reply #338 on: May 31, 2018, 08:48:39 PM »

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Re: Are We Doomed If Lebron Joins The Philadelphia 76ers Next Summer?
« Reply #339 on: May 31, 2018, 09:03:31 PM »

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I feel like Lebron to philly is just made up by fans/media.....it really makes no sense.

You look at Miami with Wade/Bosh and Cleveland with Irving/Love....and both teams have a similarity. another iso player who can get his own shot, and a Power forward who can shoot the 3 ball.  And then surround lebron with a bunch of 3 point shooters and put the ball in his hands.

Simmons has no mid-range game at all and only can operate with the ball in his hands and Embiid is a back to the basket center. I don't see how that team works with lebron unless you trade Simmons

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« Reply #340 on: May 31, 2018, 09:07:39 PM »

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I feel like Lebron to philly is just made up by fans/media.....it really makes no sense.

You look at Miami with Wade/Bosh and Cleveland with Irving/Love....and both teams have a similarity. another iso player who can get his own shot, and a Power forward who can shoot the 3 ball.  And then surround lebron with a bunch of 3 point shooters and put the ball in his hands.

Simmons has no mid-range game at all and only can operate with the ball in his hands and Embiid is a back to the basket center. I don't see how that team works with lebron unless you trade Simmons

Yeah I've been saying the same, especially the bolded part^

Sixers are very likely losing Belinelli, Reddick, etc. as well if they bring back Lebron (so essentially all their great shooters/perimeter threats)
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« Reply #341 on: May 31, 2018, 10:13:55 PM »

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It will NEVER work,  Simmons becomes useless and Brett Brown looses his job ...he waited like five years to actually coach and try and win.   

Lebron s COACH and decides what goes on .

Would Brown submit

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« Reply #342 on: May 31, 2018, 11:14:05 PM »

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It will NEVER work,  Simmons becomes useless and Brett Brown looses his job ...he waited like five years to actually coach and try and win.   

Lebron s COACH and decides what goes on .

Would Brown submit

Since when has LeBron needed a real coach to win a championship? lol Brown would submit because he'd have to. Simmons would be the 3rd start which he really is right now without a jump shot. Would be a killer 6th man. C's/Philly would be the new rivalry in the East to come.

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« Reply #343 on: June 12, 2018, 06:32:51 PM »

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Feels like PHI is sort of slipping in the Lebron race which is nice.

Lakers have high odds to land him and I think Spurs are another legitimate option (Pelicans too?). Of course for the latter two finding a S&T may be a bit difficult but still possible I'm sure.

Surprisingly seems HOU may not be as high as we thought on his "priority list" lol. Still a high choice but probably not clear-cut favorites to land him as previously thought.
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« Reply #344 on: June 12, 2018, 06:43:18 PM »

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You guys are nuts thinking Fultz doesn't have any value (or virtually no value).

He has value.

But I highly doubt you can get Kawhi or another proven star if Fultz is the primary asset in the trade package. He's still a relative unknown at this point. Even Sixers fans say the same and wonder what his role will be for years to come.
But he wasn't the primary asset in the trade package in this thread.  Saric, Covington, Fultz, and 10 is a pretty solid package overall.  Obviously teams, like Boston, could beat that offer, but that isn't some crap offer either.
But it isn't a great offer either.
You're not going to get a great offer for a disgruntled star with 1 year left on his contract who is still recovering from a major injury.  PG, Cousins and Butler trades weren't considered great offers when those trades were made either.

That is probably true of the cousins trade, but I think the butler haul was pretty good. Lavine was 22 coming off a season he averaged 19 points, Dunn was a year removed from being a highly coveted player and the 7th pick was not terrible. Saric, despite the enfatuation of a vocal few on this board, is a 24 year old role player. The 10th pick is ok if you really love someone that falls, but probably doesn't have a ton of value pre-draft. It is not a horrible package, but i just don't see what it does for the spurs. They are blowing up a perennial contender to build around a headcase that maybe can't shoot, a role player, Murray and the 10th pic? What does that get them? to be a bottom 15 team indefinitely?
Lavine was coming off a pretty bad injury and in the final year of his rookie contract.  The Bulls are now faced with giving him a large extension after he played just 24 games for them (and he had by far his worst shooting season in his career, maybe that is just injury rust, or maybe not).  The Bulls also gave up the 16th pick in the trade.  It wasn't a terrible trade for the Bulls (especially since they seemingly got the draft pick right and Minnesota did not), but it was far from a good trade and unlike Leonard, Butler wasn't hurt and was not entering the final year of his contract (though obviously Butler was not as good as Leonard was).

That decision could very well ultimately prove to be a yuge mistake for the Bulls, imo, owing to the fact that a potential Chicago core of Dunn, Markkanen, and Patton would have been much better, moving forward, than one comprised of Dunn, Lavine, and Markkanen, but we'll see as to what happens down the road.