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Re: Would anyone trade Brown for Ingram now?
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2017, 06:59:01 PM »

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Have loved Jaylen since we got to see his potential when he started last year for Bradley for those 10 games or so. I think he has a ceiling of being a Kawhi Leonard/Jimmy Butler hybrid all-star and top ten player in the league.

I just don't see Ingram having that potential due to his lackluster defensive intensity and really thin frame. So I will keep Brown, thank you.

Re: Would anyone trade Brown for Ingram now?
« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2017, 07:45:11 PM »

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No, I would not trade Brown for Ingram right now. But that has much to do with me liking Brownís personality as it does his play.  From a who will be the better player for a decade point of view, Iíd probably take Brown, but I think the difference is close enough that I could go either way.

Itís mostly Brownís poise that puts me over the edge, not anything inherent with their physical abilities (which are both terrific).

I'm surprised at your answer. I will grant Ingram is 11 months younger, and he is posting nearly identical offensive output, albeit for a 6-9 team.

Brown is doing the same for a 14-2 team. Where they are different is that Brown has been fearless against the best competition in the league, plays with a a ferocious intensity, and is one of the best defenders in the NBA. He also clearly looks like a leader.

Neither player is close to a finished product, but right now, it doesn't seem that close to me.

11 months is a lot of time, and thatís pretty much my point.  Ingram this year looks better than Jaylen did last year, when their ages were more comparable.  If youíre talking about trading one for the other, and are only looking at this year, Jaylen, all day.  But if youíre thinking about who do you want over the course of their careers, I think itís a toss up at this point.

So should we be comparing Ingram to Tatum?

Re: Would anyone trade Brown for Ingram now?
« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2017, 09:14:41 PM »

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Going into the draft last year I was terribly disappointed that we ended up with the #3 pick in what I was confident was a clear top two player (Simmons & Ingram) draft.  A year later I think the only conversation should be "who would you want, Simmons or Brown".  Ingram may be more offensively gifted than Jaylen but I do not think that anyone in last years draft has the heart and determination of Jaylen Brown.  Jaylen is physical beast with a stone cold killer heart.  I will take him over Ingram in a heart beat.  We got lucky on this one.
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Re: Would anyone trade Brown for Ingram now?
« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2017, 10:05:33 PM »

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Kind of agree with the idea that Brown's attitude and energy has pushed him ahead of Ingram and into a tie with Simmons

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Re: Would anyone trade Brown for Ingram now?
« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2017, 10:27:10 PM »

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You don't trade a cobra(Brown) for a praying mantis(Ingram)

Re: Would anyone trade Brown for Ingram now?
« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2017, 11:03:34 PM »

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Push.

It's worth noting that Brandon Ingram's defense actually rates as quite good this year - considerably ahead of his offense.  So while I would take Brown over Ingram as a defensive player (and I think it'll stay that way), it's not a blowout. 

Similarly, I'd take Ingram over Brown in terms of offensive potential, but it's not a blowout.  A lot of Ingram's projection makes the assumption that he eventually becomes a good shooter, which he currently is not - struggles both from three and from the line.  It may be fair to say that Ingram's greater responsibility in his offense depresses his stats, while Brown (thanks to superior surrounding talent and a superior coach) is generally allowed to stick to his strengths. 

I like both players, and I think it's a very even comparison overall.

Re: Would anyone trade Brown for Ingram now?
« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2017, 11:10:10 PM »

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I think everyone was pretty legit in this thread. Good job everyone. Cheers