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Re: Crowder is terrible so far this season
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2017, 02:59:36 PM »

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Yeah that trade was a highway robbery in favor of the Celtics  8)

I'd do it over and over again...trading IT4, Jae Crowder, Ante Zizic, BKN 2018, and second-rounder for Kyrie Irving.

It not only helped the Cavs create a dysfunctional mess, but it also propelled the Celtics to a 12-game winning streak and developing a defense for Kyrie.

I think the ultimate irony would be if IT, Crowder, Zizic and the pick all turned out to be busts but the 2nd rounder last-minute throw-in turned into the next Manu Ginobili.

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Re: Crowder is terrible so far this season
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2017, 03:05:31 PM »

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Is Lebron going to let IT initiate set  offense ...like he should ....or will everybody thats used to playing team ball .....stand around waiting to see what Lebron is going to do with the ball first......make it up as you go basketball. 


Re: Crowder is terrible so far this season
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2017, 03:11:01 PM »

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All analists keep saying Crowder is an elite defender. Well last year he was a not good. In 2015-2016 he was certainly above average and solid defender. Last year he def lost a step... he is not picking it up this year.

In his last Celtic year I was definitely more frustrated than happy with his defensive effort.

Re: Crowder is terrible so far this season
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2017, 05:47:14 PM »

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Small sample size.

If just 4 more of Jae's 44 three point attempts had stayed in the net he'd be shooting 38.6% and none of this discussion happens.

Ironically, this thread came out just as Jae finally had a decent game, posting 15 points, 7 rebounds & 3 assists against his old team (DAL).   Also ironically, he did so not by hitting threes (he still shot a poor 1 of 6 from the arc), but rather by going to the hoop and getting to the FT line (6 for 6).

I think I'll wait until we get a little deeper into the season before I crow too loudly about Jae's supposed decline.  A dozen games to start the season is usually a bit too early for epitaphs.   'Not claiming he'll not still end up with a terrible year.   'Just think it's way too early.


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Re: Crowder is terrible so far this season
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2017, 06:03:20 PM »

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Sure you have to assume that Stevens, who had no frontcourt and limited talent in general, "had" to maximize Jae's talent...and he did. Thomas and Crowder matched each other well and became a large part of the "little engine that could" last year.

I will insist on this...I always saw Jae Crowder as a bench player. Probably a sixth man. When he came here I felt that if Crowder was the sixth best player on the team you'd have good team...not a starter. 

As far as the Cav's go, I haven't watched their games this year. I know from the past that Lebron is essentially a player coach in a role similar to what Russell was given by Red. Tyron Lue is not truly responsible for the conduct of the team on the floor, Lebron James is. This dynamic assures that Jae Crowder's talents will not be maximized in any way and losses will result in finger pointing/scapegoating/benching/position swapping and what have you as, there isn't the structure offered by a team that is run by a head coach whom is directly responsible for wins and losses.

Kyrie Irving, a top player in the league, arrives in Boston, a team that he has crushed for years and, without blinking,  promptly changes his game to suit the head coach. All players, including Crowder, play better under great leadership...ask Red Auerbach. 
   
We get high on our own guys and that is normal, but, last year's team couldn't beat any of the top 6 teams in the NBA and how could they? They were doing it on sheer effort and purpose and Crowder was all of that.

Which is why the hate for Crowder on this board is ridiculous and unwarranted...

Crowder may have been a tough nosed diva at times, but he certainly gave his all during his time here at least... He definitely made an impact on our youngsters like Rozier or Smart.
how is it hating to post that crowders offensive and defensive impact this season is significantly worse

It's hating when the SAME usual SUSPECTS post time and time again the same freakin' thread, talking smack about Smart, Crowder, etc....

We get it. You don't like those players.

But consistently creating pessimistic threads, bringing up ex-Celts who have nothing but good things to say about us when they left.
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Re: Crowder is terrible so far this season
« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2017, 06:19:00 PM »

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No offense to Crowder and Isaiah (I do miss them and thank them for what they did), but I hope they underwhelm in order for us to "win this trade". Also hope to dear god that BKN Pick lands outside Top-5 (and closer to 10-14 range).

Re: Crowder is terrible so far this season
« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2017, 07:04:26 PM »

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Sure you have to assume that Stevens, who had no frontcourt and limited talent in general, "had" to maximize Jae's talent...and he did. Thomas and Crowder matched each other well and became a large part of the "little engine that could" last year.

I will insist on this...I always saw Jae Crowder as a bench player. Probably a sixth man. When he came here I felt that if Crowder was the sixth best player on the team you'd have good team...not a starter. 

As far as the Cav's go, I haven't watched their games this year. I know from the past that Lebron is essentially a player coach in a role similar to what Russell was given by Red. Tyron Lue is not truly responsible for the conduct of the team on the floor, Lebron James is. This dynamic assures that Jae Crowder's talents will not be maximized in any way and losses will result in finger pointing/scapegoating/benching/position swapping and what have you as, there isn't the structure offered by a team that is run by a head coach whom is directly responsible for wins and losses.

Kyrie Irving, a top player in the league, arrives in Boston, a team that he has crushed for years and, without blinking,  promptly changes his game to suit the head coach. All players, including Crowder, play better under great leadership...ask Red Auerbach. 
   
We get high on our own guys and that is normal, but, last year's team couldn't beat any of the top 6 teams in the NBA and how could they? They were doing it on sheer effort and purpose and Crowder was all of that.

Which is why the hate for Crowder on this board is ridiculous and unwarranted...

Crowder may have been a tough nosed diva at times, but he certainly gave his all during his time here at least... He definitely made an impact on our youngsters like Rozier or Smart.
how is it hating to post that crowders offensive and defensive impact this season is significantly worse

It's hating when the SAME usual SUSPECTS post time and time again the same freakin' thread, talking smack about Smart, Crowder, etc....

We get it. You don't like those players.

But consistently creating pessimistic threads, bringing up ex-Celts who have nothing but good things to say about us when they left.

You think Crowder still wanted to be here? I think not, espically after the crowd cheered  Hayward last year. He wanted out, he got his wish
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Re: Crowder is terrible so far this season
« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2017, 08:41:21 AM »

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Re: Crowder is terrible so far this season
« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2017, 10:55:01 AM »

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No offense to Crowder and Isaiah (I do miss them and thank them for what they did), but I hope they underwhelm in order for us to "win this trade". Also hope to dear god that BKN Pick lands outside Top-5 (and closer to 10-14 range).
Why not hope simply for Kyrie to excel instead?

Re: Crowder is terrible so far this season
« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2017, 03:40:13 AM »

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Give the guy a break.  He only gave birth a little over two months ago.

Re: Crowder is terrible so far this season
« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2017, 03:53:28 AM »

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Give the guy a break.  He only gave birth a little over two months ago.
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