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Re: Objective thinking: Is Smart replaceable
« Reply #60 on: November 12, 2017, 01:06:11 PM »

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marcus is one of those guys that got drafted way higher than he should have. he was/is definitely a top 20 pick, but not a top 10 player in a draft imo. 

I believe if you're drafting in the top 10 you should be getting an all-star. Marcus is/was never going to be that, I've said from day one he'll never have the numbers to be. all the players coming out of college are projects of course but some are more of a project than others. for example look at the last few picks the suns have made, all those players are massive projects and i'd be willing to bet 2 of 3 will probably be complete busts or never sniff an All-star level, they'll likely never live up to their draft status. too many teams make this mistake.

Yes Marcus is a role player and he never should've been drafted that high. with all that said he is unique, he has the ability to influence the outcome of games and in the end the only stat that really matters is the W-L column.

so is he replaceable? it depends on the criteria, if you drafted him with the expectation of being an all star who averages 20 pts and 10 assists then he's a complete bust if that's the case and definitely replaceable. if you acknowledge that smart is unique and not you're average "role player" then he's not replaceable.

Re: Objective thinking: Is Smart replaceable
« Reply #61 on: November 12, 2017, 03:01:17 PM »

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marcus is one of those guys that got drafted way higher than he should have. he was/is definitely a top 20 pick, but not a top 10 player in a draft imo. 

I believe if you're drafting in the top 10 you should be getting an all-star. Marcus is/was never going to be that, I've said from day one he'll never have the numbers to be. all the players coming out of college are projects of course but some are more of a project than others. for example look at the last few picks the suns have made, all those players are massive projects and i'd be willing to bet 2 of 3 will probably be complete busts or never sniff an All-star level, they'll likely never live up to their draft status. too many teams make this mistake.

Yes Marcus is a role player and he never should've been drafted that high. with all that said he is unique, he has the ability to influence the outcome of games and in the end the only stat that really matters is the W-L column.

so is he replaceable? it depends on the criteria, if you drafted him with the expectation of being an all star who averages 20 pts and 10 assists then he's a complete bust if that's the case and definitely replaceable. if you acknowledge that smart is unique and not you're average "role player" then he's not replaceable.
If you think top ten equals an all star then you’re not paying attention.  Marcus is on par with your typical #6 player in the draft unfortunately.

Re: Objective thinking: Is Smart replaceable
« Reply #62 on: November 12, 2017, 03:07:18 PM »

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marcus is one of those guys that got drafted way higher than he should have. he was/is definitely a top 20 pick, but not a top 10 player in a draft imo. 

I believe if you're drafting in the top 10 you should be getting an all-star. Marcus is/was never going to be that, I've said from day one he'll never have the numbers to be. all the players coming out of college are projects of course but some are more of a project than others. for example look at the last few picks the suns have made, all those players are massive projects and i'd be willing to bet 2 of 3 will probably be complete busts or never sniff an All-star level, they'll likely never live up to their draft status. too many teams make this mistake.

Yes Marcus is a role player and he never should've been drafted that high. with all that said he is unique, he has the ability to influence the outcome of games and in the end the only stat that really matters is the W-L column.

so is he replaceable? it depends on the criteria, if you drafted him with the expectation of being an all star who averages 20 pts and 10 assists then he's a complete bust if that's the case and definitely replaceable. if you acknowledge that smart is unique and not you're average "role player" then he's not replaceable.
If you think top ten equals an all star then you’re not paying attention.  Marcus is on par with your typical #6 player in the draft unfortunately.
Yeah, he's a #6 level guy all day. Noel, WCS, Hield and the like are all on his level
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Re: Objective thinking: Is Smart replaceable
« Reply #63 on: November 12, 2017, 06:18:55 PM »

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marcus is one of those guys that got drafted way higher than he should have. he was/is definitely a top 20 pick, but not a top 10 player in a draft imo. 

I believe if you're drafting in the top 10 you should be getting an all-star. Marcus is/was never going to be that, I've said from day one he'll never have the numbers to be. all the players coming out of college are projects of course but some are more of a project than others. for example look at the last few picks the suns have made, all those players are massive projects and i'd be willing to bet 2 of 3 will probably be complete busts or never sniff an All-star level, they'll likely never live up to their draft status. too many teams make this mistake.

Yes Marcus is a role player and he never should've been drafted that high. with all that said he is unique, he has the ability to influence the outcome of games and in the end the only stat that really matters is the W-L column.

so is he replaceable? it depends on the criteria, if you drafted him with the expectation of being an all star who averages 20 pts and 10 assists then he's a complete bust if that's the case and definitely replaceable. if you acknowledge that smart is unique and not you're average "role player" then he's not replaceable.
If you think top ten equals an all star then you’re not paying attention.  Marcus is on par with your typical #6 player in the draft unfortunately.

I never said drafting in the top 10 means you're automatically getting an all-star, "equals" never came into the discussion. I said if i'm drafting in the top 10 i'm not drafting a project, but you should be looking for an all star.

Re: Objective thinking: Is Smart replaceable
« Reply #64 on: November 12, 2017, 06:39:43 PM »

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marcus is one of those guys that got drafted way higher than he should have. he was/is definitely a top 20 pick, but not a top 10 player in a draft imo. 

I believe if you're drafting in the top 10 you should be getting an all-star. Marcus is/was never going to be that, I've said from day one he'll never have the numbers to be. all the players coming out of college are projects of course but some are more of a project than others. for example look at the last few picks the suns have made, all those players are massive projects and i'd be willing to bet 2 of 3 will probably be complete busts or never sniff an All-star level, they'll likely never live up to their draft status. too many teams make this mistake.

Yes Marcus is a role player and he never should've been drafted that high. with all that said he is unique, he has the ability to influence the outcome of games and in the end the only stat that really matters is the W-L column.

so is he replaceable? it depends on the criteria, if you drafted him with the expectation of being an all star who averages 20 pts and 10 assists then he's a complete bust if that's the case and definitely replaceable. if you acknowledge that smart is unique and not you're average "role player" then he's not replaceable.

Mike Bibby, Marcus Camby, Shane Battier are pretty good examples of "not your average role players" drafted at the top 6 draft.

Re: Objective thinking: Is Smart replaceable
« Reply #65 on: November 12, 2017, 06:41:20 PM »

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Re: Objective thinking: Is Smart replaceable
« Reply #66 on: November 12, 2017, 06:48:44 PM »

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I think Rozier is answering this from time to time.  Though Marcus plays some really tough D.

Re: Objective thinking: Is Smart replaceable
« Reply #67 on: November 14, 2017, 04:43:12 PM »

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Smart is going to be hard to replace

He has "kg" like intensity/leadership about him

If another team gives him 20 million per season...Danny doesnt match

There also could be a chance Danny does a sign and trade plus x for a nice player on a friendly contract in return

I predict also Danny drafts with one of the picks a Smart like replacement just in case just like he did with drafting Semi(Crowders replacement)

Re: Objective thinking: Is Smart replaceable
« Reply #68 on: November 14, 2017, 04:44:07 PM »

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Looking fwd to a matchup vs Jazz...

Smart vs Donovon Mitchell should be intense

Re: Objective thinking: Is Smart replaceable
« Reply #69 on: November 14, 2017, 04:45:51 PM »

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Of course he is.   

He's a role player.  You let guys like that walk rather than overpay.   It'd be tough to replace his defensive intensity but you still bite that bullet when it comes to $$$.


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