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Re: C's Would Benefit Even More With Another Depth Big/Bench Scorer
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2017, 12:23:34 PM »

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I think we need a tall guy like okafor or Monroe who can score and are bigs

Yeah I'm high on getting any of these two (or both!)

All in on the "Brad Stevens effect"  ;D
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Re: C's Would Benefit Even More With Another Depth Big/Bench Scorer
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2017, 01:34:45 PM »

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Wouldn't it be nice to have a big that could give us 7 points, 6 boards, and over 1 block in less than 17 minutes per game AND shoot over 56% and a solid 82% from the line?  I forgot to mention he currently has a 21.2 PER.

His is the same Kyle O'Quinn I have been clamoring for all year!!! 

If he would deny his player option of just under 4.3 million for next year, we could use the DPE on him.  We could also trade Yabusele and Nader for O'Quinn and use the DPE on Belinelli:-)

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6965639

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Would you give him Baynes minutes?  or Theis?  Because that's his role.

And why would the Knicks trade him for Yabusele and Nader?

Mostly for the UPSIDE of both and the REAL fear of what he will get as a free agent once he SURELY denies his player option!!

He is an improvement over Theis, although I love Theis!!  I think that we need to spread our minutes so that we fresh when it matters.

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Re: C's Would Benefit Even More With Another Depth Big/Bench Scorer
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2017, 03:26:45 PM »

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Wouldn't it be nice to have a big that could give us 7 points, 6 boards, and over 1 block in less than 17 minutes per game AND shoot over 56% and a solid 82% from the line?  I forgot to mention he currently has a 21.2 PER.

His is the same Kyle O'Quinn I have been clamoring for all year!!! 

If he would deny his player option of just under 4.3 million for next year, we could use the DPE on him.  We could also trade Yabusele and Nader for O'Quinn and use the DPE on Belinelli:-)

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6965639

Thoughts?

Smitty77

Would you give him Baynes minutes?  or Theis?  Because that's his role.

And why would the Knicks trade him for Yabusele and Nader?

Mostly for the UPSIDE of both and the REAL fear of what he will get as a free agent once he SURELY denies his player option!!

He is an improvement over Theis, although I love Theis!!  I think that we need to spread our minutes so that we fresh when it matters.

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I wouldn't mind O'Quinn, but not sure Ainge is willing to trade Nader, Yabusele AND 2nd rounder for him. Plus idk.. Knicks actually look decent this year (good enough to make a playoff spot maybe and sneak in?)
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Re: C's Would Benefit Even More With Another Depth Big/Bench Scorer
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2017, 09:02:11 PM »

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They DEFINITELY need some added scoring punch off the bench.

Smart just isn't cutting it, as much as I love him.
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Re: C's Would Benefit Even More With Another Depth Big/Bench Scorer
« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2017, 07:54:49 PM »

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Greg Monroe in season debut had 20 points, 11 rebounds in 26 minutes (10/14 shooting).

One of the lone bright spots in the Suns brutal loss last night, and even he didn't like the Suns effort in yesterday's game.

C's could really use a guy like Monroe off the bench for some scoring (and depth big presence).
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Re: C's Would Benefit Even More With Another Depth Big/Bench Scorer
« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2017, 08:02:34 PM »

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Greg Monroe in season debut had 20 points, 11 rebounds in 26 minutes (10/14 shooting).

One of the lone bright spots in the Suns brutal loss last night, and even he didn't like the Suns effort in yesterday's game.

C's could really use a guy like Monroe off the bench for some scoring (and depth big presence).

Was he part of the reason why the Rockets put up 90 in the first half?

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« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2017, 08:04:01 PM »

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Greg Monroe in season debut had 20 points, 11 rebounds in 26 minutes (10/14 shooting).

One of the lone bright spots in the Suns brutal loss last night, and even he didn't like the Suns effort in yesterday's game.

C's could really use a guy like Monroe off the bench for some scoring (and depth big presence).



Was he part of the reason why the Rockets put up 90 in the first half?

Yes.

Re: C's Would Benefit Even More With Another Depth Big/Bench Scorer
« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2017, 08:07:57 PM »

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Greg Monroe in season debut had 20 points, 11 rebounds in 26 minutes (10/14 shooting).

One of the lone bright spots in the Suns brutal loss last night, and even he didn't like the Suns effort in yesterday's game.

C's could really use a guy like Monroe off the bench for some scoring (and depth big presence).



Was he part of the reason why the Rockets put up 90 in the first half?

Yes.

Did ANYONE on the Suns put any effort out there?

Hard to do with that coaching and with how bad the team is to begin with.
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Re: C's Would Benefit Even More With Another Depth Big/Bench Scorer
« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2017, 03:42:43 AM »

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Greg Monroe in season debut had 20 points, 11 rebounds in 26 minutes (10/14 shooting).

One of the lone bright spots in the Suns brutal loss last night, and even he didn't like the Suns effort in yesterday's game.

C's could really use a guy like Monroe off the bench for some scoring (and depth big presence).

And in his next game had 6 points, 1 reb, and looked slow as molasses. He plays no defense and doesn't fit in an up tempo offence. Ainge will look elsewhere for depth.

Re: C's Would Benefit Even More With Another Depth Big/Bench Scorer
« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2017, 09:04:48 PM »

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This still holds true.

BENCH SCORING, Ainge. That's a HUGE need going forward.

Can't stand watching every game where the bench throws up bricks and the other team either rallies back from a double digit deficit, OR builds their lead towards double-digits...  ::)
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Re: C's Would Benefit Even More With Another Depth Big/Bench Scorer
« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2017, 09:35:13 PM »

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If we can go on a nice run, its not too late

Re: C's Would Benefit Even More With Another Depth Big/Bench Scorer
« Reply #41 on: November 22, 2017, 09:36:47 PM »

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Re: C's Would Benefit Even More With Another Depth Big/Bench Scorer
« Reply #42 on: November 22, 2017, 10:07:54 PM »

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This still holds true.

BENCH SCORING, Ainge. That's a HUGE need going forward.

Can't stand watching every game where the bench throws up bricks and the other team either rallies back from a double digit deficit, OR builds their lead towards double-digits...  ::)

Playing them with the hope they will just snap out of it feels like an impossibility. Ainge may have to make some sort of trade.

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« Reply #43 on: November 22, 2017, 10:58:21 PM »

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Tyreke Evans having a strong year for the Grizzlies on a 1 year deal.  I bet he wouldn’t cost much in a trade.  Then get the best buyout big like Monroe or someone else.

Re: C's Would Benefit Even More With Another Depth Big/Bench Scorer
« Reply #44 on: November 23, 2017, 12:03:15 AM »

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Expectations probably ramped up too quickly here.  We just overachieved (again) to win 16 straight with massive roster turnover and two man-children in the starting 5. 

It's tough to argue that the bench sucks when Smart has made such major contributions in pivotal games (including the last one).  And Rozier isn't horrible... he's just playing to his draft status imo.   They're bench players... few teams rely on these guys to win games.

The concept of needing more offense is more confusing.  Tough to argue this when we have an injured all-star on the bench with awesome offensive talent, and traded the farm for an 'offensive superstar'. 
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