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ESPN Ranks Celtics 3rd in NBA--Fair?
« on: November 06, 2017, 10:54:22 AM »

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ESPN power rankings has Celts ranked 3rd, behind GSW and HOU.

Fair?  Personally, I could see us ahead of Houston at the moment, obviously have no problem being ranked behind GSW, who are playing better than their slow start.

What do you think?

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21265048/nba-power-rankings-our-expert-panel-unveils-rankings-week-4


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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2017, 11:00:39 AM »

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Who would have thought after Hayward injury and going 0-2 we would be this high already?

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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2017, 11:00:56 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2017, 11:01:41 AM »

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Rockets have undoubtedly played well, but should not be ahead of Boston.  We have a longer winning streak, a better overall record, had better competition this week, better point differential, etc.

I’m fine with the Warriors at #1, but Houston should not be #2.
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2017, 12:07:01 PM »

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Rockets have undoubtedly played well, but should not be ahead of Boston.  We have a longer winning streak, a better overall record, had better competition this week, better point differential, etc.

I’m fine with the Warriors at #1, but Houston should not be #2.

They need someone to prop up as GSW's 'rival' and potentially upset-er in the West, and we just made OKC seem a little less imposing on Friday night, so I guess Houston is the choice.

Frankly, I think the Celtics should be #1.  They have the best record and have done the best of anyone so far this season.  Sure, GSW is a better team, but are we just going to ignore the actual results of what's happening this year?  Why even do power rankings at all then?
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2017, 12:13:58 PM »

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Rockets have undoubtedly played well, but should not be ahead of Boston.  We have a longer winning streak, a better overall record, had better competition this week, better point differential, etc.

I’m fine with the Warriors at #1, but Houston should not be #2.

NBA.com puts us at number 2 behind Golden State, which I think is fair.

http://www.nba.com/powerrankings
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2017, 12:14:15 PM »

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Rockets have undoubtedly played well, but should not be ahead of Boston.  We have a longer winning streak, a better overall record, had better competition this week, better point differential, etc.

I’m fine with the Warriors at #1, but Houston should not be #2.

They need someone to prop up as GSW's 'rival' and potentially upset-er in the West, and we just made OKC seem a little less imposing on Friday night, so I guess Houston is the choice.

Frankly, I think the Celtics should be #1.  They have the best record and have done the best of anyone so far this season.  Sure, GSW is a better team, but are we just going to ignore the actual results of what's happening this year?  Why even do power rankings at all then?

Agreed - Power Rankings are usually some combination of record, presume strength, and current performance. So if GSW drops, like, 3 in a row, they won't plummet. They'll drop no further than like 5 or 6 because we all know they're really really good and that's probably a blip... but they will drop, because their power ranking is less powerful.

If a team is 8-2, has the best record in the league, and has advanced stats and quality wins to back that up... where's the harm in saying yeah Boston is the tops on this week's power rankings.
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2017, 12:25:40 PM »

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Celts are 1st in point differential, record, and defense.  15th in offense.

I think you've got to rank them at least 2nd based on what they've done through 10 games.

The Warriors are the best offense by a country mile, with the second best point differential.  I think it's fair to rank them first.
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2017, 12:26:50 PM »

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Celts are 1st in point differential, record, and defense.  15th in offense.

I think you've got to rank them at least 2nd based on what they've done through 10 games.

The Warriors are the best offense by a country mile, with the second best point differential.  I think it's fair to rank them first.

Yeah, because everyone knows offense is more important than defense, right??

Yes, I'm being sarcastic!!

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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2017, 12:34:21 PM »

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It’s pretty amazing considering we don’t have Hayward.

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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2017, 12:35:17 PM »

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Celts are 1st in point differential, record, and defense.  15th in offense.

I think you've got to rank them at least 2nd based on what they've done through 10 games.

The Warriors are the best offense by a country mile, with the second best point differential.  I think it's fair to rank them first.

Yeah, because everyone knows offense is more important than defense, right??

Yes, I'm being sarcastic!!

No, but the Warriors are dominating on offense to a greater degree than the Celts are dominating on defense.  They're 10 points ahead of the next best team.
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2017, 12:40:49 PM »

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Personally, I have no problem if these power rankings are a monthly thing but its a weekly ranking based on performance and record and perhaps strength of opponents beatrn during the week so imo it eally shoild be Boston first then GS...its pretty silly to go on a 7 game winning streak holding your opponents under 95 points and yet gets ranked only 3rd...absurd.

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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2017, 12:55:34 PM »

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I have no problem with the ranking of 2 at nba.com or 3 at espn.com. The Celtics and Houston are both hot and there is only a half game between them. Golden State is the best team in the league by far and deserves the number 1 spot.

Now if Boston goes undefeated again this week, which the should, and improves their offense while maintaining their defense, then I think next week a number 2 ranking should be warranted.

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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2017, 12:57:05 PM »

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The only rankings that matter are the ones at the end of the season.  that's when being #1 matters

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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2017, 01:06:15 PM »

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Celts are 1st in point differential, record, and defense.  15th in offense.

I think you've got to rank them at least 2nd based on what they've done through 10 games.

The Warriors are the best offense by a country mile, with the second best point differential.  I think it's fair to rank them first.

Yeah, because everyone knows offense is more important than defense, right??

Yes, I'm being sarcastic!!

No, but the Warriors are dominating on offense to a greater degree than the Celts are dominating on defense.  They're 10 points ahead of the next best team.

Golden State is only around 6 points better than the second highest scoring team. The Celtics are around 4 points better defensively than the second best team. The point differential per game is small, but Boston gets the nod at #1 over Golden State.

I hope Boston keeps up this winning streak before they go into that Golden State game. Because if they are, I want to see Golden State take their best shot. I want to see how Boston measures up with them, with them both playing at their best.
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