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Re: Tatum vs Simmons
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2017, 11:27:46 AM »

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I prefer Tatum for this Celtics team... His game and demeanour are perfect for a winning Championship team. He is clutch at the line, highly competetive on Defense and impacts winning without having to have the ball.. For a young kid to play at that level is amazing..   This dude has special dripping off of him.

Simmons will always be a fun player to watch..  His greatness will remind us of Vince Carter,  Harden, Tmac.. Maybe even Allen Iverson to an extent.. But never a Bird, or a Magic or a Pierce or a Tim Duncan..  He's the video game that you put away when you are tired of having fun and want to accomplish something great.

Re: Tatum vs Simmons
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2017, 12:37:49 PM »

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I guess the question is:

Would you trade Tatum for Simmons straight up if you were Danny Ainge?

I'm keeping Tatum thank you very much.
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Re: Tatum vs Simmons
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2017, 03:45:53 PM »

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I guess the question is:

Would you trade Tatum for Simmons straight up if you were Danny Ainge?

I'm keeping Tatum thank you very much.

I agree.  I keep Tatum also.  I think Tatum would have a better plus minus on either team than Simmons would.  I like Simmons and he is fun to watch but I think Tatums a better option for winning at a high level against the better teams.
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Re: Tatum vs Simmons
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2017, 09:16:40 PM »

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I guess the question is:

Would you trade Tatum for Simmons straight up if you were Danny Ainge?

I'm keeping Tatum thank you very much.

I agree.  I keep Tatum also.  I think Tatum would have a better plus minus on either team than Simmons would.  I like Simmons and he is fun to watch but I think Tatums a better option for winning at a high level against the better teams.
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And at least at this stage he is the more complete player.
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Re: Tatum vs Simmons
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2017, 09:48:39 PM »

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I guess the question is:

Would you trade Tatum for Simmons straight up if you were Danny Ainge?

I'm keeping Tatum thank you very much.

I agree.  I keep Tatum also.  I think Tatum would have a better plus minus on either team than Simmons would.  I like Simmons and he is fun to watch but I think Tatums a better option for winning at a high level against the better teams.
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And at least at this stage he is the more complete player.
How so?  Tatum couldn't run the Sixers offense like Simmons has.  Simmons on the other hand could play PF for us albeit it wouldn't be as clean of a fit. 

I'd choose Simmons to start a team from scratch,  For our team, it would be a closer call but I'd make the trade. 

Re: Tatum vs Simmons
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2017, 09:56:33 PM »

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Tatum passing has really surprised me as of late

Re: Tatum vs Simmons
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2017, 11:02:50 AM »

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I guess the question is:

Would you trade Tatum for Simmons straight up if you were Danny Ainge?

I'm keeping Tatum thank you very much.


I agree.  I keep Tatum also.  I think Tatum would have a better plus minus on either team than Simmons would.  I like Simmons and he is fun to watch but I think Tatums a better option for winning at a high level against the better teams.
r

And at least at this stage he is the more complete player.
How so?  Tatum couldn't run the Sixers offense like Simmons has.  Simmons on the other hand could play PF for us albeit it wouldn't be as clean of a fit. 

I'd choose Simmons to start a team from scratch,  For our team, it would be a closer call but I'd make the trade.

Make that trade and kill our high performing defense and kill our spacing....

I'm so glad it's Danny who makes those decision for us...

Re: Tatum vs Simmons
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2017, 03:21:10 PM »

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Loved his bounce pass to Irving, cutting almost baseline-simple, so effective and so so unhurried-his breakaway dunk just enough to score and draw a foul or the deep three after a trap and bobble as clock ran down.

Re: Tatum vs Simmons
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2017, 04:36:19 PM »

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Simmons is like westbrook, elite stat and fair record but isn't going anywhere, he is a "dead-end"
Tatum is like KD/Kawhi

Re: Tatum vs Simmons
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2017, 04:39:05 PM »

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Nothing wrong with liking Tatum better or thinking he's got more potential in the long run. A little silly to claim he's better than Simmons today. Simmons has been very, very good so far, All-Star caliber. Time will tell on the rest.

Re: Tatum vs Simmons
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2017, 10:22:55 PM »

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I don't think it's a fair comparison. Simmons has been around a couple years, though he didn't play last year. Tatum is fresh out of school and younger. Besides, Simmons is a much bigger part of the Sixers than Tatum is of the Celtics. His usage rate must be much higher. He and Embiid are basically the Sixers team. Tatum is maybe 4th or 5th player down the totem pole, but performing much better than expected.

Re: Tatum vs Simmons
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2018, 07:59:41 AM »

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I'm surprised how good Simmons is without a jump shot. That has to be someone encouraging that he's doing so much without that skillset yet.

My personal opinion is a jump shot can be learned with work and time.

I'm also surprised how good Tatum is as well. I expected a player who was only a good ISO player out of the gate. He's been solid on the glass, on defense and moving the ball.

Both these guys are going to have really good to great careers maybe even special? or am I over doing it now :D

Without a jump shot he has to work that much harder.

Also his defense isnt impressive

I still like Brown or Tatum better

Re: Brown vs Simmons
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2018, 08:12:57 AM »

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Tatum?

It's not getting closer as the season wears on.  Simmons was is the runaway leader earlier in the season but Tatum is making a good case at this point.
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Re: Tatum vs Simmons
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2018, 09:05:56 AM »

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simmons all star caliber? playing for a lousy team.... if brown and tatum get so many touches they will have 25ppg....

Re: Tatum vs Simmons
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2018, 09:08:53 AM »

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simmons all star caliber? playing for a lousy team.... if brown and tatum get so many touches they will have 25ppg....

Exactly