Poll

If you had to choose, who stays?

Terry Rozier
58 (42.6%)
Marcus Smart
78 (57.4%)

Total Members Voted: 135

Author Topic: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll  (Read 13727 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #225 on: May 16, 2018, 08:46:09 AM »

Online Moranis

  • Global Moderator
  • Bill Sharman
  • *******************
  • Posts: 19326
  • Tommy Points: 914
At this stage what will Smart command in the open market and at what cost is it 'worth' losing him?

I think he has surpassed the 4 year/10-14 mil per season people are expecting him to be offered.

I think he should/will remain a celtic @ 16mil or below, anything above you have to let him walk.
Yeah, but what team is going to have the cap space, the need, and will actually want to tie up the money on Smart.  That is always the thing with these type things.  Smart's market won't be that big, but it does take just 1 team, I'm just not sure what that team is.  None of the better teams that will actually have cap space make sense (like his poor shooting isn't a good fit in Philly).  Of the bad teams, very few make sense as reasonable landing spots.  Phoenix might, but probably not if they end up with Doncic.  After that, who are you looking at?

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #226 on: May 16, 2018, 08:56:27 AM »

Offline Vermont Green

  • Antoine Walker
  • ****
  • Posts: 4048
  • Tommy Points: 328
At this stage what will Smart command in the open market and at what cost is it 'worth' losing him?

I think he has surpassed the 4 year/10-14 mil per season people are expecting him to be offered.

I think he should/will remain a celtic @ 16mil or below, anything above you have to let him walk.
Yeah, but what team is going to have the cap space, the need, and will actually want to tie up the money on Smart.  That is always the thing with these type things.  Smart's market won't be that big, but it does take just 1 team, I'm just not sure what that team is.  None of the better teams that will actually have cap space make sense (like his poor shooting isn't a good fit in Philly).  Of the bad teams, very few make sense as reasonable landing spots.  Phoenix might, but probably not if they end up with Doncic.  After that, who are you looking at?

It is hard to gauge the market for Smart but I don't think he is the type of player that teams are going to overspend for.  Of course, I say that and then it always seems as though some team will overpay (see Portland Trailblazers - Evan Turner).  I predict we sign Smart in the end, keep Rozier but dangle him as a part of larger trade options (such as Leonard) and probably end up just keeping him for now too.

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #227 on: May 16, 2018, 08:58:41 AM »

Offline triboy16f

  • Johnny Most
  • ********************
  • Posts: 20562
  • Tommy Points: 519
Look at this defensive highlight at 4:13 on love then pushing Tatum on the switch....just wow

https://youtu.be/CNiN-aE7XUY

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #228 on: May 16, 2018, 09:18:43 AM »

Online Big333223

  • NCE
  • Antoine Walker
  • ****
  • Posts: 4634
  • Tommy Points: 440
Look at this defensive highlight at 4:13 on love then pushing Tatum on the switch....just wow

https://youtu.be/CNiN-aE7XUY

lol and TP

Talk about things that don't show up in the box score, Smart is not just a great defender himself but he's coaching on the floor, making sure everyone is where they should be.
1957, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1974, 1976, 1981, 1984, 1986, 2008, 2019

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #229 on: May 16, 2018, 09:19:26 AM »

Online manl_lui

  • Paul Silas
  • ******
  • Posts: 6348
  • Tommy Points: 396
keep both! go into the luxury tax! this team is for real

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #230 on: May 16, 2018, 09:29:33 AM »

Offline triboy16f

  • Johnny Most
  • ********************
  • Posts: 20562
  • Tommy Points: 519
Look at this defensive highlight at 4:13 on love then pushing Tatum on the switch....just wow

https://youtu.be/CNiN-aE7XUY

lol and TP

Talk about things that don't show up in the box score, Smart is not just a great defender himself but he's coaching on the floor, making sure everyone is where they should be.

No mattet how hard Love tried to front Smart...Smart just kept trying to front him.  Love gave up

In a nutshell this series

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #231 on: May 16, 2018, 09:36:31 AM »

Offline bknova

  • Kyrie Irving
  • Posts: 890
  • Tommy Points: 63
Smart.  We keep Smart. He'll be cheaper, brings more intangibles, and Terry will bring back more in a trade. 

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #232 on: May 16, 2018, 09:38:23 AM »

Offline apc

  • Jim Loscutoff
  • **
  • Posts: 2722
  • Tommy Points: 276
I think Rozier will look for a place he can be a starter.
Marcus knows his place.

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #233 on: May 16, 2018, 09:39:02 AM »

Offline triboy16f

  • Johnny Most
  • ********************
  • Posts: 20562
  • Tommy Points: 519
Smart.  We keep Smart. He'll be cheaper, brings more intangibles, and Terry will bring back more in a trade.

Without the two we lose last night

Keep both

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #234 on: May 16, 2018, 09:44:51 AM »

Offline BitterJim

  • Rajon Rondo
  • *****
  • Posts: 5447
  • Tommy Points: 729
Look at this defensive highlight at 4:13 on love then pushing Tatum on the switch....just wow

https://youtu.be/CNiN-aE7XUY

lol and TP

Talk about things that don't show up in the box score, Smart is not just a great defender himself but he's coaching on the floor, making sure everyone is where they should be.

There was a play in the 4th quarter where he created a steal, too, he yelled at Horford and pointed, and Horford went right to the spot and got the deflection/steal without even seeing the pass happen. Smart is an amazing defensive anchor
I'm bitter.

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #235 on: May 16, 2018, 10:56:44 AM »

Offline triboy16f

  • Johnny Most
  • ********************
  • Posts: 20562
  • Tommy Points: 519
defensive highlight at 5:38 ....  OMG.

EDIT: Badly disguised profanity is still profanity. Watch the language

Also putback at 6:08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNiN-aE7XUY&t=255s
God Bless Marcus Smart
« Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 11:00:26 AM by nickagneta »

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #236 on: May 16, 2018, 11:05:02 AM »

Offline triboy16f

  • Johnny Most
  • ********************
  • Posts: 20562
  • Tommy Points: 519
Look at this defensive highlight at 4:13 on love then pushing Tatum on the switch....just wow

https://youtu.be/CNiN-aE7XUY

lol and TP

Talk about things that don't show up in the box score, Smart is not just a great defender himself but he's coaching on the floor, making sure everyone is where they should be.

There was a play in the 4th quarter where he created a steal, too, he yelled at Horford and pointed, and Horford went right to the spot and got the deflection/steal without even seeing the pass happen. Smart is an amazing defensive anchor

I remember that

Smart is an amazing defender.  Communication, pushing guys to the right spots.  He is rarely out of position

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #237 on: May 17, 2018, 12:17:55 AM »

Offline triboy16f

  • Johnny Most
  • ********************
  • Posts: 20562
  • Tommy Points: 519

Quote
LeBron James likely will dominate NBA free agency talk over the summer, but The King hardly is the only noteworthy player who will be available on the open market in the offseason. Marcus Smart, currently the longest-tenured member of the Boston Celtics, also will be a free agent once the 2017-18 season comes to a close. While Smart isnít a max-contract type of player, his steady progression and unmatched intangibles likely will result in a large number of suitors. While Celtics fans surely are hoping the tenacious guard would be open to a hometown discount in order to stay in Boston, donít expect the 24-year-old to be keen on the idea. In a recent interview on ESPNís ďThe Hoop CollectiveĒ podcast, Jackie MacMullan explained where she expects Smartís head to be at once he hits free agency. ďIíve talked to lots of people around the Celtics and around the league about Marcus Smart,Ē MacMullan said, as transcribed by UPROXX. ďIf Marcus Smart was willing to take a ó letís say Sacramento (Kings) for argumentís sake or another team that isnít quite good and they offer him $14 million a year and the Celtics say, ĎWe canít pay you that. But weíll pay you $12 (million).í My question to them was will Marcus Smart take it because theyíre contending, heís a cult hero in town. Every one of them said, ĎHell no, heís going for the money.í Iíve never asked him this question. But thatís the impression I get. You canít blame young guys who want to go out to the highest bidder and thinks he should be a starter and heís not going to be one in Boston for many years to come.Ē As MacMullan noted, no one could blame Smart for going to the highest bidder, and if he continues to thrive in the postseason for the Celtics, other teams around the league likely will become more willing to offer him a generous deal. Although the Cís surely would love to keep Smart in town for years to come, itís starting to seem like theyíll face stiff competition in order to do so.

Read more at: https://nesn.com/2018/05/nba-rumors-why-celtics-could-have-trouble-re-signing-marcus-smart/

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #238 on: May 17, 2018, 12:42:53 AM »

Offline ETNCeltics

  • NCE
  • Kyrie Irving
  • Posts: 932
  • Tommy Points: 105
I don't care what JM wrote, I can't see MS going to a bad team for marginally more $$$. If he can get $5 or $10M per year more, sure. But a couple million to go lose in Phoenix or Atlanta or Sactown? No way.

Re: Keep Smart or Rozier (merged threads) Poll
« Reply #239 on: May 17, 2018, 12:45:19 AM »

Offline triboy16f

  • Johnny Most
  • ********************
  • Posts: 20562
  • Tommy Points: 519
I don't care what JM wrote, I can't see MS going to a bad team for marginally more $$$. If he can get $5 or $10M per year more, sure. But a couple million to go lose in Phoenix or Atlanta or Sactown? No way.

Agreed ...unless he wants to be a starter