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Cavs lose 6 of their last 8 games
« on: October 29, 2017, 12:30:54 AM »

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Re: Cavs lose 3 of their last 4 games
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2017, 01:13:49 AM »

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They are mailing it in, no surprise. They are a worse team than last year though.

Re: Cavs lose 3 of their last 4 games
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2017, 01:15:37 AM »

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I called it a couple of weeks ago - the Cavs are looking terrible right now.  On the court and off the court, they are a mess. 

Cavs are missing Kyrie in a massive way. 

Lebron is an amazing player, but he's 33 years old, and as good as he is he cannot carry the team on his shoulders for 38-40 minutes a night, every night.  If they try to keep that up, then they are threatening his health in a huge way.  When he had Love and Kyrie there every night it took an immense amount of pressure off his shoulders because you know that Kyrie is giving you 20+ every night and Love will give you 15-16 every night.  That's easily at least 60 points a night you can depend on from Kyrie, Love and Lebron alone.  The other 10 guys combined only needs to give you 30-40 and you are set. Lebron just had to do his thing and he could effectively criuise through the regular season.  Also having Kyrie/Love/Smith on the court opened up a ton of space for Lebron to be able to get to the basket at will.

With Kyrie gone, Kevin Love has been the only consistent producer on that team outside of Lebron.  Loves been giving them a solidly consistent 15-20 points and 8-10 rebounds a night, but after Lebon and Love give you a combined 40 a night, they then have to rely on the other 10 guys to make up the remaining 60 points - and so far they haven't gotten that.  Jeff freaking Green has been their 3rd best producer so far at something like 9 PPG - and that's bad.  Wade has been terrible and looks completely cooked, Rose is injured again (shock), the Crowder-at-PF experiment failed as expected, JR and TT both had hissy fits about coming off the bench - it's a severe mess.

Not only does the Cavs 3-3 record look bad, but they have actually been WORSE then that record suggests.  If you look at the 6 games they have played so far,  only one has really been an impressive one - the win over the Bucks.  Aside from that they barely beat the Celtics without Hayward or Morris, they got blown out by Orlando, barely beat the bulls (after being down 80% of the game), lost to the nets, and now have lost to the Pelicans too. 

They have been struggling immensely against BAD teams.  If they faced this kind of schedule in any other season they would be at least 5-1 by now.

They are absolutely desperate for IT to return - they need his scoring in the most desperate way. 

It actually speaks well for the Celtics.  The Cavs lose their second best scorer and they fall apart at the seams.  The Celtics lose their second best scorer and other guys are stepping up, allowing us to flourish.

And we don't even have Morris back yet, don't have Smart at full health, have been depending on two <21 year olds who are still green, have still yet to build chemistry (after changing all but 4 players on our roster), and still have an $8.4M DPE that we have yet to use - so we will only get better as the season goes on.

In other news the Nets are 3-3 (tied with Cleveland) and are holding the 7th seed right now - so that Brooklyn pick so far is looking incredibly mediocre.  Danny Ainge is a GM god lol
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Re: Cavs lose 3 of their last 4 games
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2017, 01:18:20 AM »

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^tp.

Ainge made the Cavs worse and Celtics better. Remember espn saying that the Cavs won the trade by a landslide? Lol

Re: Cavs lose 3 of their last 4 games
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2017, 01:19:54 AM »

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Brooklyn is #7 seed at the moment.

I really like that trade right now.

Re: Cavs lose 3 of their last 4 games
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2017, 01:35:25 AM »

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How long until that one guy comes and says “6 GAMES”

Yeah it’s early but signs are showing that the nets are no longer the “nets” that we know. They can win games and probably won’t go in those 20 game losing streaks that got us Tatum and brown. Danny sold that pick at its highest value.

Re: Cavs lose 3 of their last 4 games
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2017, 01:54:20 AM »

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Also what is up with Crowder?  He looks like a shadow of the guy he was in Boston...?

Re: Cavs lose 3 of their last 4 games
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2017, 01:58:09 AM »

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Also what is up with Crowder?  He looks like a shadow of the guy he was in Boston...?
the Stevens effect. See Jordan crawford lol

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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2017, 02:55:39 AM »

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Also what is up with Crowder?  He looks like a shadow of the guy he was in Boston...?
the Stevens effect. See Jordan crawford lol

I dunno. I still don't understand why you bench Crowder to start Shump and JR Smith. Really? That is just a terrible decision.


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Re: Cavs lose 3 of their last 4 games
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2017, 03:29:20 AM »

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According to ESPN's standings their offense is only slightly above average and their defense is ordinary, giving them a very slight +be on points scored versus conceded.


Does this agree with the eye test? You who actually watch the games.
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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2017, 04:13:42 AM »

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According to ESPN's standings their offense is only slightly above average and their defense is ordinary, giving them a very slight +be on points scored versus conceded.


Does this agree with the eye test? You who actually watch the games.

Their defensive rating is worse than Phoenix and Chicago. Two teams that are trying to lose.

https://stats.nba.com/teams/defense/?sort=DEF_RATING&dir=-1

The Cavs are in trouble.

Re: Cavs lose 3 of their last 4 games
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2017, 07:16:49 AM »

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How long until that one guy comes and says “6 GAMES”

Yeah it’s early but signs are showing that the nets are no longer the “nets” that we know. They can win games and probably won’t go in those 20 game losing streaks that got us Tatum and brown. Danny sold that pick at its highest value.
It is only 6 games.  Last season the Lakers started of 10-10 and some people were saying they could make the playoffs.  They finished with 26 wins but only because they won 5 of their last 6 games. 

The Nets just lost to the Knicks by 21.  The Nets schedule so far has been very easy and continues to be for the next few games.  Hard to get much easier than their 1st 10 games. 

Pacers, Magic, Hawks, Magic, Cavs, Knicks, Nuggets, Suns, Lakers and Suns 

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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2017, 07:25:22 AM »

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Lebron should have respected Irving a bit more .

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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2017, 08:02:59 AM »

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Remember last year when lebron said the cavs need more playmakers with Kyrie Irvinf playing kn the team ?
Without Thomas the only player that can really generate offense on that team is LeBron and that spells trouble.

Defensively not a single guard on that team can defend (will get worse after getting Thomas back) and Crowder is their only reliable defender not named LeBron.

The cavs are in trouble...

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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2017, 08:08:36 AM »

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Makes you wonder if chemistry issues are going to plague them.  I am also curious as to how many of the guys truly buy in to Lue's system(if he even has one).  There's already rumblings that LeBron was the reason they tried Kevin Love at the 5 this season.  Thompson wasn't happy about losing the starting job.  JR Smith didn't want to come off the bench.  Wade doesn't fit.  Crowder must feel lost in the shuffle.  Derrick Rose is never healthy.  Jeff Green lacks killer instinct.  lol yet they will still probably make the Finals because LeBron is a freak. 

The season is still young and I have a feeling that IT will become the heart and soul of this Cavs team, assuming that he has a healthy return.  IT plays with a swagger and edge that the rest of the team should rally around.