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Offline drogbagarnett

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Could someone point me to a stats that shows the average days of rest the opponent of each team has before they meet...?

I just checked the number of days of rest of each one of our opponents for the rest of 2017 (until Dec 31st) and it appears that for more than about 2/3 of the time our opponents have 2 days of rest, they are relaxing at home or at the hotel watching us play on TV and preparing their game plan before meeting us...!!! This is INSANE!! So unfair!!!!

I want to know if every team has stretches like that in the calendar?
Does this trend reverse itself in 2018 (didn't have time to check manually...)

I did this quick search as I was p---ed that the Bucks got to watch us battle Cleveland in the comfort of their room (home or hotel) for our first meeting, and noticed they again were off for 2 days before our game yesterday, meaning they got to watch us again play (against the knicks) while they were comfy, resting and preparing for us!!

Please let me know if their is a place i can quickly access such stats, I got that strange feeling we are getting the short end of the stick here....

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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2017, 01:19:12 PM »

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Rest days should be going up because of the earlier start date, but they should be going up across the board.

On average we'll have virtually the exact same amount of rest as our opponents, even if it's (possibly) lopsided now. Don't forget we just had 3 days off before the Knicks game.

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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2017, 01:32:38 PM »

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I thought it was awesome how the NBA started the Celtics off with a back-to-back on the first two days of the season. I still don't understand why those can't be eliminated.
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So does that mean the Celtics have more rest built in the 2nd half of the season?


Which is the way I would want it.   More rest as the teams prepares for the playoffs.

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I thought it was awesome how the NBA started the Celtics off with a back-to-back on the first two days of the season. I still don't understand why those can't be eliminated.

They actually kicked off the season with 3 games in 4 nights. That's ridiculous considering they were coming off a 4-game preseason. 

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but they won the game, on enemy court, short-handed...so not sure what such stats would prove...

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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2017, 01:42:40 PM »

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I thought it was awesome how the NBA started the Celtics off with a back-to-back on the first two days of the season. I still don't understand why those can't be eliminated.

Almost impossible to do without the entire league only playing on certain days of the week.

And as wdleehi said I'd greatly prefer less rest early in the season and more days off later than the other way around.

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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2017, 02:03:30 PM »

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I thought it was awesome how the NBA started the Celtics off with a back-to-back on the first two days of the season. I still don't understand why those can't be eliminated.

Almost impossible to do without the entire league only playing on certain days of the week.

And as wdleehi said I'd greatly prefer less rest early in the season and more days off later than the other way around.

My point is not really about rest itself per se, but more about having an opportunity to watch your opponent play before you get to play against them.

In theory, lets say all 30 teams might have 3 to 5 such occurrences of having 3+ days of rest.
Why would it always be when those teams are playing the Celtics that they magically get one of those 3 to 5 occurrences of extra rest?? 
We got one of our own against New York. We got 3+ days, enough time to rest, watch them play on tv, prepare for them... (not that we needed it to beat the weak knicks). But if several other opponents of the knicks gets such extended rest before playing against them i would understand if the knicks would complain... And here it is the case for us during the next couple of months!!
I'm curious about checking the Lakers opponents days of rest... I get the feeling LAL will have a lot of opponents that are on the second night of a back to back when playing them...
Hope i'm wrong but worth looking into...

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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2017, 02:05:39 PM »

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but they won the game, on enemy court, short-handed...so not sure what such stats would prove...

Doesn't prove anything for that one game.
just that it's not fair for us to always be playing against a team that had 2+ days of rest and got to watch us play on tv before stepping on the court against us... Just happening too many times over the next couple of months for my liking!

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So does that mean the Celtics have more rest built in the 2nd half of the season?


Which is the way I would want it.   More rest as the teams prepares for the playoffs.

More practices for Hayward to (potentially) take part in (either playing or in more of a coaching/mentor role)
I'm bitter.

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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2017, 03:09:52 PM »

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I thought it was awesome how the NBA started the Celtics off with a back-to-back on the first two days of the season. I still don't understand why those can't be eliminated.

Almost impossible to do without the entire league only playing on certain days of the week.

And as wdleehi said I'd greatly prefer less rest early in the season and more days off later than the other way around.

My point is not really about rest itself per se, but more about having an opportunity to watch your opponent play before you get to play against them.

In theory, lets say all 30 teams might have 3 to 5 such occurrences of having 3+ days of rest.
Why would it always be when those teams are playing the Celtics that they magically get one of those 3 to 5 occurrences of extra rest?? 
We got one of our own against New York. We got 3+ days, enough time to rest, watch them play on tv, prepare for them... (not that we needed it to beat the weak knicks). But if several other opponents of the knicks gets such extended rest before playing against them i would understand if the knicks would complain... And here it is the case for us during the next couple of months!!
I'm curious about checking the Lakers opponents days of rest... I get the feeling LAL will have a lot of opponents that are on the second night of a back to back when playing them...
Hope i'm wrong but worth looking into...

Before alleging some kind of vague shadiness why not look and see if that's actually the case? 

Every team's playing 82 games over almost exactly the same number of days (some teams have their first/last game a day or two off the rest). So they're going to have almost exactly the same number of days off during that period. Teams with more long stretches of rest will have more back-to-backs or single days off. It's mathematically inevitable. And it's extremely unlikely there'll be any major differences in how rested teams' opponents are on average.

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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2017, 02:50:58 AM »

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I thought it was awesome how the NBA started the Celtics off with a back-to-back on the first two days of the season. I still don't understand why those can't be eliminated.

Almost impossible to do without the entire league only playing on certain days of the week.

And as wdleehi said I'd greatly prefer less rest early in the season and more days off later than the other way around.

My point is not really about rest itself per se, but more about having an opportunity to watch your opponent play before you get to play against them.

In theory, lets say all 30 teams might have 3 to 5 such occurrences of having 3+ days of rest.
Why would it always be when those teams are playing the Celtics that they magically get one of those 3 to 5 occurrences of extra rest?? 
We got one of our own against New York. We got 3+ days, enough time to rest, watch them play on tv, prepare for them... (not that we needed it to beat the weak knicks). But if several other opponents of the knicks gets such extended rest before playing against them i would understand if the knicks would complain... And here it is the case for us during the next couple of months!!
I'm curious about checking the Lakers opponents days of rest... I get the feeling LAL will have a lot of opponents that are on the second night of a back to back when playing them...
Hope i'm wrong but worth looking into...

Before alleging some kind of vague shadiness why not look and see if that's actually the case? 

Every team's playing 82 games over almost exactly the same number of days (some teams have their first/last game a day or two off the rest). So they're going to have almost exactly the same number of days off during that period. Teams with more long stretches of rest will have more back-to-backs or single days off. It's mathematically inevitable. And it's extremely unlikely there'll be any major differences in how rested teams' opponents are on average.

Your mathematical assumption is not right my friend...

It's not about everyone playing the same amount of games over the same period, its about being the team that catches opponents on a second night of a back to back more often or being the team that goes against a well rested team more often....

I did dig around and found some numbers showing that one team will play twice (2 times only) against a team resting for 3 days and another team will play 11 times against a team resting for 3 days...
(https://www.nbastuffer.com/2017-2018-nba-schedule-rest-days-analysis/)

THAT IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!

Maybe like you said other factors will compensate this stat (less B2B for that team for example) but the fact is you can find teams that are "less lucky" when it comes to the reg season schedule..

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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2017, 04:21:28 AM »

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As long as we don't have any serious injuries and don't wear out our guys we'll be fine, I'm predicting around 56 wins for us this season. GO CELTICS!

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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2017, 03:43:48 PM »

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https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/933784891866734592?s=17

This is what im referring to!!

While we were battling the Mavs in OT, the heat were home for 3 days pretty much going back to preseason mode specifically to get this high profile win against us...

Its not just they have time to rest but more about they have time to study us and prepare... about 10 of our opponrnts so far had 1 extra day to study us and prepare... (including GSW)

Its truly insane that were able to put that great run of 16 in row in spite of that fact.

Despite the heat going full training camp preparation and ud not even having a chance to do 1 practice since the NYK game, we still almost came back and they needed a lucky bounce to beat us... (even if they deserved it...)

Now lets add 2 players and get to the finals!
1) a low post scoring threat, double double machine...
2) a deadly 3pt shooting specialist

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While rest may have some impact, the opponents’ rest doesn’t really account for our bench’s inability to hit open shots.


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