I find it hard to believe that a hometown guy would up and leave. This is the same guy that turned down $11M per for less per year. So if he doesn't resign what have you lost?
There are restrictions on who you can use the DPE on. No guys that have multi year deals...but pending FAs you can trade for.
All I'm saying is we can't lose 25ppg and not feel it at somw point. Since we cant make up the points we can make up the defense.
Yeah, I think Noel would be a great pick up.
He improves our team for the year.
If signs elsewhere next year so be it, what did we lose?
If he somehow decides to accept the full MLE from us next year then all the better.
The assets that we traded for him. It would be one thing if we got him for free, but we'd need to give up assets (picks/young guys) for him. A one year rental of Nerlens Noel isn't worth that
Not to mention that he has the ability to veto any trade, and there's no way he agrees to a trade where he ends up on a team that can't pay him big money (especially one where he would have a smaller role)
Why? he took the QO to get a bigger payday next year.
I think he's got his bags packed already.
Noel brings it on d. He's a stopgap but that's exactly what we need.
Allows Morrris to play more 3, which helps keep Tatum from burning up before the all star game.
Also helps preserve horford, so maybe he has more juice once he, Haward, and Irving finally make there run.
If the price is the DPE and a late first/couple of seconds I'd gladly pay for the year rental.
The Mavs having his Bird rights will help him get a bigger pay day next year, because his other potential suitors will have to outbid a team that can go over the cap to keep him. Furthermore, the Mavs would be able to facilitate a sign-and-trade with a team that's over the cap. None of that is possible if he's traded this year, which would lower his earnings potential. This is why he's given veto power, and why he would use it.
Maybe he'll wind up with the Mavs, maybe somewhere else. But he's got a better chance to earn more as long as those Bird rights exist.
Do you think he's a max player?
I don't.
But I agree The mavs betting they can sign or get better value with a s&t, is a roadblock.
He doesn't have to be a max player for it to make sense for him to reject a deal -- just someone who'll make more than the MLE.
I'm sorry I don't get it.
Yes, the most we can offer him is the mle, but he can sign anywhere next year at whatever the high bidder can offer.
How is playing out the year in Boston going to change that?
Sure the mavs could offer more years but unless hits a max dollars bidding war the extra years don't really matter.
Contracts (theoretically) should be determined by demand. In other words, the more teams out there who can offer you a certain amount of money, the more likely you are to get it from someone. If he is not traded Noel has the following
potential suitors:
5-7 teams with substantial cap room (doesn't have to be max)
~20 teams for the non-taxpayer MLE
3-5 team for the taxpayer MLE
Mavs (who can go over the cap for him)
Furthermore, those 20+ teams at the MLE level would be allowed to work out a sign-ant-trade and thus spend more than the MLE.
If he's traded to the Celtics, it'll look like:
5-7 teams with substantial cap room (doesn't have to be max)
~20 teams for the non-taxpayer MLE
3-5 team for the taxpayer MLE
Sign-and-trade is out. That additional team that can go over the cap for him is out. That's going to hurt demand, and ultimately, his salary. He's not giving that up. And that's not to say he's going to get what he wants -- I frankly think his agent has oversold Nerlens on himself -- but Bird rights increases his earnings potential, and is not worth waving.