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Knicks (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) Game #4 10/24/17
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New York Knicks (0-2) at Boston Celtics (1-2)
Tuesday, October 24, 2017
7:30 PM ET
Regular Season Game #4, Home Game #2
TV: NBCSB, MSG, NBA-LP 753(DTV), 753(xfinity)
Radio: 98.5 Sports Hub, ESPN NY 98.7
TD Garden




Probable Starters

PG: Kyrie Irving
SG: Jaylen Brown
SF:  Jayson Tatum
PF: Al Horford
C: Aron Baynes 

Celtics Reserves

Jabari Bird
Shane Larkin
Abdel Nader
Semi Ojeleye
Daniel Theis
Guerschon Yabusele
Terry Rozier

Injuries
Marcus Morris  (knee)  out
Gordon Hayward (ankle)  out
Marcus Smart (ankles)  day to day

Two Way Players
Kadeem Allen

Head Coach

Brad Stevens




Probable Starters

PG: Ramon Sessions
SG: Courtney Lee
SF: Tim Hardaway, Jr. 
PF: Kristaps Porzingis
C:  Enes Kanter

Knicks Reserves
Ron Baker
Michael Beasley
Damyean Dotson
Willy Hernangomez
Jarrett Jack
Mindaugas Kuzminskas
Doug McDermott
Kyle O'Quinn
Lance Thomas

Two Way Players
Isaiah Hicks
Luke Kornet

Injuries

Joakim Noah (suspended)  out
Frank Ntilikina  (ankle) questionable

Game Notes

These division foes meet for the first of 4 games this season.  They will meet one more time in Boston on January 31 and in twice in New York on December 21 and February 24.  The Celtics win the series 3-1 last season. The last time the Knicks won the season series between these two teams was in 2012-13. 

Both teams have changed considerably since they last met.  The Knicks finally unloaded Carmelo Anthony and Derrick Rose and this is now Kristaps Porzingis' team.   They have added former Celtic Courtney Lee, Ramon Sessions, and Enes Kanter, among others.  The Celtics return just 4 players from last year. 

Marcus Smart missed Friday's game with two rolled ankles and is day to day. I expect them to  be cautious with him if he isn't 100%. He will undergo tests in the morning and will be a game time decision.   Marcus Morris has done some work on the court but is not expected to be evaluated until Monday and so will miss this game. 

Joakim Noah was suspended for 20 games last season for violating the league's anti-drug policy.   He served 8 games last season and has 12 games to serve this season.   He is out for this game. 
Frank Ntilikina sprained his ankle in practice last week and did not practice on Sunday.  He is day to day. 

As has been the case with every game since Gordon Hayward went down,  the starting lineup is fluid.  Marcus Smart started one game and with his ankle injury keeping him out of last game, Aron Baynes got the start.  It worked out well in the last game as they got the victory so I guessed that they would go with the same lineup for this game.

Key Matchups
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Al Horford vs Kristaps Porzingis
This is now Kristaps Porzingis' team with the departure of Carmelo Anthony and he has taken advantage of the opportunity.  He is averaging 32 points and 8.5 rebounds.   Limiting him would go a long way toward getting a win against this team. 

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Kyrie Irving vs Ramon Sessions
Kyrie carries a lot on his shoulders with Gordon Hayward out for the season.  With a new system and all new teammates, it may take him a bit to get back to his All-Star level of play.  But with every game, he should show improvement and he should get the better of this matchup.   

Keys to the Game
Defense
- Playing tough team defense is the key to winning every game. The Celtics need to concentrate on getting stops and keeping the Knicks' offense off balance.  The Knicks allow 108.0 points per game while the Celtics allow 100.7 points per game.    The Celtics must concentrate on playing tough team defense to keep the Knicks from getting a win in this one. 

Rebound -  The Celtics for the first time in awhile aren't at the bottom of the league in rebounding.  The Celtics are 8th with 48.0 rebounds per game while the Knicks are 25th with 40.0 rebounds per game.  The Celtics are getting it done with a team rebounding effort and not depending on one or two players to be the rebounders.  The Knicks are 24th allowing 18 second chance points while the Celtics are 12th allowing just 12.3 second chance points. 

Be Aggressive - The Celtics need to be the more aggressive team. They have to be more aggressive in going after loose balls, in grabbing rebounds, in defending, and in going to the basket.  They have to be the team that wants it more.  They have to find the swagger and heart that last year's team played with.  They simply have to out-work their opponents. 

Move the Ball- The Celtics have to keep the ball moving and find the open man.  When the ball sticks and one player tries to do too much,  the team suffers.  They have to play as a team and trust their teammates and keep the ball moving.  No hero ball. 

Focus -  The Celtics are shooting just 66.7% from the free throw line.  That shows a certain lack of focus on the part of each of the players.  They have to keep their focus and hit their free throws and focus on playing Celtics basketball. 

X-Factors
Desperation vs Confidence

The Celtics finally got their first win in their last game.  They have to have a bit more confidence now that the monkey is off their backs.  On the other hand, the Knicks are still looking for their first win and will be playing like the more desperate team.  The Celtics have to keep a certain amount of desperation to get their first home win and not allow the Knicks to play harder. 

Home Game - The Celtics lost their home opener and will be looking to get their first win for the home crowd.  Hopefully they get a boost from the fans and it will carry them to a win in this game. 


« Last Edit: October 23, 2017, 04:02:47 PM by FLCeltsFan »

Re: Knicks (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) Game #4 10/24/17
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GO CELTICS!!!!!! BEAT THE KNICKS.

TP to FLcF for another great game thread.

Re: Knicks (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) Game #4 10/24/17
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TP to Ogaju for being the first to post in the game thread!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Celtics!!!

Re: Knicks (0-2) at Celtics (1-2) Game #4 10/24/17
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The Celtics should use this one to really tune up. Go Celtics!

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Hey FLC, you left Terry Rozier off our reserves ó Fanny hasnít traded him yet!

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Trade targets.      Draft.                     FAs
1. Davis              1.Fultz              1. Griffin*
2. Cousins          2. Tatum          2. Hayward
3. Butler              3. Jackson       3. Millsap
4. George            4. Ball               4. Lowry
5. Favors             5. Isaac            5. Gali

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Let's go Cs! start the W streak. TP FL

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Seventh! In the rotation.

Thanks once more for the thread flc. And love the piglets! A tp for each one.

Celtics will proceed to stomp the Knicks fiercely. 


Goooooooooooooooo Celtics!
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Hey FLC, you left Terry Rozier off our reserves ó Fanny hasnít traded him yet!
Fanny? Did ainge go through a change I didnít hear of?
I believe Gandhi is the only person who knew about real democracy ó not democracy as the right to go and buy what you want, but democracy as the responsibility to be accountable to everyone around you. Democracy begins with freedom from hunger, freedom from unemployment, freedom from fear, and freedom from hatred.
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Starting big again should do nicely for us...Kyrie-Brown-Tatum-Horford-Baynes should get us the W. LET'S GO CELTICS!

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Hey FLC, you left Terry Rozier off our reserves ó Fanny hasnít traded him yet!
Fanny? Did ainge go through a change I didnít hear of?

LOL, sorry Danny..  Please don't be offended and still hire me one day.

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Let's go C's! Should be able to get up on this team
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Let's get to .500 vs Knicks, I request nothing fancy at this moment.
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Hey FLC, you left Terry Rozier off our reserves ó Fanny hasnít traded him yet!
Thanks for catching that!  I was trying to get this up before going to bed last night and I had it almost done and somehow I ended up losing it and had to do it all over again. I'll be surprised if that's all I missed LOL.  TP! 

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I hope with a longish break from games this team can't get things back in order. Having  games in nights was going to be tough anyways, but after Haywards injury, that really threw things.

Lets play well and get an other win and get some momentum for the revenge game vs the Bucks.