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Re: Jabari Bird
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2017, 12:35:15 PM »

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I like this kid and he is exactly what we need, right now.

n ya gotta love hearing a Celtics  " Bird for Three " once again ...LOL

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Re: Jabari Bird
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2017, 03:11:35 PM »

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As I see it with Gordon out, Brad has been giving all the young news a run to see who can do what and who is most ready.  So far Bird is the only one to step up and act like he is not a deer in the headlight when he is on the floor.  Theis also has moments but he does seem on the small side for what he is trying to contribute.

I expect Brad to continue this pattern until someone shows they are somewhat ready to fit in. 

Bird and Theis are in the lead today.
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Re: Jabari Bird
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2017, 04:39:37 PM »

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Bird was a steal.

Re: Jabari Bird
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2017, 05:39:56 PM »

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Re: Jabari Bird
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2017, 06:15:01 PM »

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to be fair I expected 0 contribution from the 56th pick in the draft, so as far as Im concerned that pick is a success already lol.
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Re: Jabari Bird
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2017, 08:32:20 PM »

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Too bad we can only play him for 45 games.

I know I'm jumping the gun here, but for any cap/CBA guys out there, can a 2-way be converted to a regular NBA contract. If so, what are the ramifications?

Yes, he can be converted to a minimum-salary contract.  The ramifications are that he would hit restricted free agency after next season and we will likely lose control of him much more quickly.

So if we make him a minimum salary contract he becomes a restricted free agent this summer?

What happens in the summer if we keep him as a two way player the rest of the season?
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Re: Jabari Bird
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2017, 08:59:17 PM »

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Too bad we can only play him for 45 games.

I know I'm jumping the gun here, but for any cap/CBA guys out there, can a 2-way be converted to a regular NBA contract. If so, what are the ramifications?

Yes, he can be converted to a minimum-salary contract.  The ramifications are that he would hit restricted free agency after next season and we will likely lose control of him much more quickly.

So if we make him a minimum salary contract he becomes a restricted free agent this summer?

What happens in the summer if we keep him as a two way player the rest of the season?

Iím not entirely clear what happens in the summer, because I donít know if we signed him to a one-year or two-year two-way deal.  (Two-ways can be 1 or 2 seasons).  Assuming itís a one year deal, he would be a restricted free agent with a $50,000 qualifying offer.  The Celtics would be able to use the MLE to match an offer if one came ó but I doubt an offer would come in.  So then they could use a portion of the  MLE to sign him to a 4-year deal similar to those signed by Semi and Nader this year.  Or they could sign him to another two-way.

If itís a two-year contract heís on, they can sign him to a new deal this summer using the MLE as well, or they could make him a two-way player for next year too, and he would be a restricted free agent in 2019.  Also, if he is a two-year deal, converting him this year would last through next season.

Also, while he is on a two-way, he does not accrue service time.  So if heís signed next summer, he could get the rookie league minimum instead of the 2nd year league minimum.  As the team is very likely to be in the tax, the ~$500k salary difference matters.

Re: Jabari Bird
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2017, 09:11:42 PM »

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Too bad we can only play him for 45 games.

I know I'm jumping the gun here, but for any cap/CBA guys out there, can a 2-way be converted to a regular NBA contract. If so, what are the ramifications?

Yes, he can be converted to a minimum-salary contract.  The ramifications are that he would hit restricted free agency after next season and we will likely lose control of him much more quickly.

So if we make him a minimum salary contract he becomes a restricted free agent this summer?

What happens in the summer if we keep him as a two way player the rest of the season?

Iím not entirely clear what happens in the summer, because I donít know if we signed him to a one-year or two-year two-way deal.  (Two-ways can be 1 or 2 seasons).  Assuming itís a one year deal, he would be a restricted free agent with a $50,000 qualifying offer.  The Celtics would be able to use the MLE to match an offer if one came ó but I doubt an offer would come in.  So then they could use a portion of the  MLE to sign him to a 4-year deal similar to those signed by Semi and Nader this year.  Or they could sign him to another two-way.

If itís a two-year contract heís on, they can sign him to a new deal this summer using the MLE as well, or they could make him a two-way player for next year too, and he would be a restricted free agent in 2019.  Also, if he is a two-year deal, converting him this year would last through next season.

Also, while he is on a two-way, he does not accrue service time.  So if heís signed next summer, he could get the rookie league minimum instead of the 2nd year league minimum.  As the team is very likely to be in the tax, the ~$500k salary difference matters.

Thanks for the detailed response. TP.
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Re: Jabari Bird
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2017, 09:27:00 PM »

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to be fair I expected 0 contribution from the 56th pick in the draft, so as far as Im concerned that pick is a success already lol.

IT was the 60th pick so he ought to be better than that. :D

Re: Jabari Bird
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2017, 09:39:22 PM »

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to be fair I expected 0 contribution from the 56th pick in the draft, so as far as Im concerned that pick is a success already lol.

IT was the 60th pick so he ought to be better than that. :D

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