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Re: Jeff Goodman: Hayward Could return this Season, Should Eventually be 100%
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2017, 11:09:56 AM »

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Agreed koz. Nor should the C's want him to, we have him for another two years at least.

Re: Jeff Goodman: Hayward Could return this Season, Should Eventually be 100%
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2017, 11:13:17 AM »

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Agreed koz. Nor should the C's want him to, we have him for another two years at least.

Agreed.  There is zero incentive to rush him back.  Organization has to look at future, not just present. 


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Re: Jeff Goodman: Hayward Could return this Season, Should Eventually be 100%
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2017, 11:17:47 AM »

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Agreed koz. Nor should the C's want him to, we have him for another two years at least.

Agreed.  There is zero incentive to rush him back.  Organization has to look at future, not just present.
Don't want to sound overly giddy, but the future seems pretty bright with Brown and Tatum.
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Re: Jeff Goodman: Hayward Could return this Season, Should Eventually be 100%
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2017, 11:21:38 AM »

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Agreed koz. Nor should the C's want him to, we have him for another two years at least.

Agreed.  There is zero incentive to rush him back.  Organization has to look at future, not just present.
Don't want to sound overly giddy, but the future seems pretty bright with Brown and Tatum.

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Re: Jeff Goodman: Hayward Could return this Season, Should Eventually be 100%
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2017, 11:24:46 AM »

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Agreed koz. Nor should the C's want him to, we have him for another two years at least.

Agreed.  There is zero incentive to rush him back.  Organization has to look at future, not just present.
Don't want to sound overly giddy, but the future seems pretty bright with Brown and Tatum.

There's legit reason to be very excited for both.  It's no green glasses.  You see it from people around the league at this point.  People should be high on both of them.

I dind't expect this team to beat Cleveland this year anyways.  If Gordon can recover well, the young guns will get more time in his absence and hopefully it can come together very well going forward.
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2017, 11:29:26 AM »

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True. There really is no Silver Lining or Hidden Benefit, but, one way to regain some semblance of hope is to think that we were unlikely (but not impossible) to get past cleveland this year, so let's really accelerate the growth of Brown and Tatum this year, and be super ready to gun it next year.

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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2017, 12:01:07 PM »

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Physically, once he's healed there's probably not a major risk to coming back (as long as he hasn't overcompensated for the injury and thrown is body off balance). But mentally, starting your season/return while other teams are gearing up for playoff mode might be a little too much.

I remember hearing that bone breaks like these actually heal stronger than they were before. But you have a mental hurdle to get over that can take some time.

I didn't think Paul George should have come back the same season he broke his leg, but he seemed ok. I think the main point is to not pressure him during his recovery.

Re: Jeff Goodman: Hayward Could return this Season, Should Eventually be 100%
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2017, 12:03:00 PM »

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Just give him the entire year.

It's not just physically he has to heal, but he has to heal mentally too. That kind of injuries could affect someone's mindset, and he needs all the time in the world to get back to the mentality that he had before the injury. Otherwise, we will have a 100% physically ready Gordon Hayward, but yet so mentally checked out won't do things because of it.

Let this be the year we develop Jaylen and Jayson. Heal up Gordon, go for it again next year.
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2017, 12:14:42 PM »

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Just give him the entire year.

It's not just physically he has to heal, but he has to heal mentally too. That kind of injuries could affect someone's mindset, and he needs all the time in the world to get back to the mentality that he had before the injury. Otherwise, we will have a 100% physically ready Gordon Hayward, but yet so mentally checked out won't do things because of it.

Let this be the year we develop Jaylen and Jayson. Heal up Gordon, go for it again next year.
No sorry, I disagree.  Gordon has MONTHS to think about this injury, and even get some therapy/counseling if he wants,  but I bet all he really wants to do is get back on the court.  He doesn't need a separate period of mental rehab.

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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2017, 12:19:33 PM »

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Just give him the entire year.

It's not just physically he has to heal, but he has to heal mentally too. That kind of injuries could affect someone's mindset, and he needs all the time in the world to get back to the mentality that he had before the injury. Otherwise, we will have a 100% physically ready Gordon Hayward, but yet so mentally checked out won't do things because of it.

Let this be the year we develop Jaylen and Jayson. Heal up Gordon, go for it again next year.
No sorry, I disagree.  Gordon has MONTHS to think about this injury, and even get some therapy/counseling if he wants,  but I bet all he really wants to do is get back on the court.  He doesn't need a separate period of mental rehab.

Except that the kind of therapy he needs is to get back on the court at his own pace. He doesn't need to talk to someone about how it feels to dunk a basketball at full speed. He needs to work his own mind up to it. His mind will be telling him not to do it at first. He needs to work his way back mentally by physically doing things at a slower pace than a real nba game or even practice demands.

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« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2017, 12:28:34 PM »

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Agreed koz. Nor should the C's want him to, we have him for another two years at least.

Agreed.  There is zero incentive to rush him back.  Organization has to look at future, not just present.
Don't want to sound overly giddy, but the future seems pretty bright with Brown and Tatum.

There's legit reason to be very excited for both.  It's no green glasses.  You see it from people around the league at this point.  People should be high on both of them.

I dind't expect this team to beat Cleveland this year anyways.  If Gordon can recover well, the young guns will get more time in his absence and hopefully it can come together very well going forward.

I truly believe that if Hayward did not get hurt, this team was equipped to beat the Cavs this season in playoffs.  And definitely got that vibe in the 5 plus minutes before crash.

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« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2017, 12:40:44 PM »

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Agreed koz. Nor should the C's want him to, we have him for another two years at least.

Agreed.  There is zero incentive to rush him back.  Organization has to look at future, not just present.
Don't want to sound overly giddy, but the future seems pretty bright with Brown and Tatum.

There's legit reason to be very excited for both.  It's no green glasses.  You see it from people around the league at this point.  People should be high on both of them.

I dind't expect this team to beat Cleveland this year anyways.  If Gordon can recover well, the young guns will get more time in his absence and hopefully it can come together very well going forward.

I truly believe that if Hayward did not get hurt, this team was equipped to beat the Cavs this season in playoffs.  And definitely got that vibe in the 5 plus minutes before crash.

I agree that Boston could've beaten them in the playoffs. Having Irving and Hayward meant two go-to scorers, so Cleveland couldn't get away with anymore of that crazy double- and triple-teaming they were doing to IT last season. If they tried that, Boston could've made them pay.
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Re: Jeff Goodman: Hayward Could return this Season, Should Eventually be 100%
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2017, 12:45:02 PM »

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Agreed koz. Nor should the C's want him to, we have him for another two years at least.

Agreed.  There is zero incentive to rush him back.  Organization has to look at future, not just present.
Don't want to sound overly giddy, but the future seems pretty bright with Brown and Tatum.

There's legit reason to be very excited for both.  It's no green glasses.  You see it from people around the league at this point.  People should be high on both of them.

I dind't expect this team to beat Cleveland this year anyways.  If Gordon can recover well, the young guns will get more time in his absence and hopefully it can come together very well going forward.

I truly believe that if Hayward did not get hurt, this team was equipped to beat the Cavs this season in playoffs.  And definitely got that vibe in the 5 plus minutes before crash.

I agree that Boston could've beaten them in the playoffs. Having Irving and Hayward meant two go-to scorers, so Cleveland couldn't get away with anymore of that crazy double- and triple-teaming they were doing to IT last season. If they tried that, Boston could've made them pay.
There's still a shot, people!  Only 5 guys can play at a time and the way Brown/Tatum are shooting....