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Re: Expectations for Jaylen Brown
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2017, 11:25:17 AM »

Offline MetroGlobe

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I would be over the moon with excitement if Jaylen continues to get 20+ shots per game.  I felt like he should have been force fed 10+ shots last year.  If he had, he would have developed at least one go-to move that he could have used in the playoffs.  That would have been huge.

But if he gets 20+ shots this year, look the he|| out.  He will learn very quickly what his limitations are, what the refs will call, and how defenses will game plan for him.  He will make The Leap for real by mid season.

One thing that didn't get mentioned too much in the reactions I've read today, was that our defensive rebounding was vastly improved last night.  This allowed for many more transition/slashing opportunities for Jaylen (forcing 17 TOs contributed to this too).  And his teammates were very willing to advance the ball ahead to him.  If that continues, youngblood will absolutely feast.  He will be a legitimate weapon.

Re: Expectations for Jaylen Brown
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2017, 11:34:27 AM »

Offline seancally

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Jaylen seems mature for his age and I hope this maturity carries over to his game. With GH being out for maybe the whole season, Jaylen has the chance to really break out. Jaylen and Tatum should more or less take over Hayward's production.

I agree. He doesn't seem to rattle easily against pressure and taunting and physicality. Honestly, while I know there's a lot to be said for fire and passion, I got sick of seeing that from guys like Jae Crowder and Marcus Smart (Jae especially). Good to see cool heads prevail, and frankly, nothing ticks off an opponent than ignoring the jabber and just playing the game.

One other thing I liked about last night was his pacing. Yes, he flies down the court on fast breaks and all that. But with the ball in his hands he was patient and didn't get way out of control as often as he seemed last season.

On that point - Jayson Tatum has that patience and pace already. Really impressed with his poise.
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Re: Expectations for Jaylen Brown
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2017, 11:39:06 AM »

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If Celtics do anything much , Brown and Tatum gonna have to grown up very fast .   

I like their mental tuffness and high IQ .   I just hope their bodies are ready for this . Tatum is probably still growing.

Re: Expectations for Jaylen Brown
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2017, 11:54:33 AM »

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Jaylen went toe to toe with Lebron last night and almost matched him. I was very impressed, his ceiling is higher than I first thought

Re: Expectations for Jaylen Brown
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2017, 11:55:23 AM »

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Re: Expectations for Jaylen Brown
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2017, 12:03:04 PM »

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Was very happy to see jb step up

Re: Expectations for Jaylen Brown
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2017, 12:12:37 PM »

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I've really been impressed with Brown since the preseason.  His ceiling as a scorer looks much higher than I anticipated.  He seems to find himself open quite a bit, he is always in the action on a fast break, he creates shots from steals and off the dribble taking it to the hoop.  After the summer league I saw no reason to think Brown would be a high scorer, but he looks pretty awesome to me right now.  I'm very excited with his progress.  I'm now guessing he'll be better than a guy like Derozan within a couple years.  If he learns to maintain his concentration and finishes a couple extra dunks/bunnies that he misses per game, he'll score even more on better efficiency.

Ya here is my deal with that. Most of us felt the same way about Brown but after one game we're changing our tunes? Brown looked really good last night and if that's the guy we're getting on most nights this season I'll eat a big plate of crow.

He was up for this game let's see if that continues.

People put way too much stop in summer league. It starts only about what, 6 weeks after the end of the season? How much improvement do people expect to see in that time frame for second year players? Even the preseason has been proven time and time again to tell us almost nothing about the regular season. Systems aren't in place, players aren't always going 100%, players are asked to play outside their expected roles.

Now, on Brown. I've been big fan since the moment he was drafted. If you are picking at #3 go with the guy with the most upside, and I thought brown was that guy. His combination of size and athleticism is hard to find, and honestly it looks like he's gotten both bigger and taller since the draft. How far he goes is gonna depend on how his skills develop. He has to improve his defensive technique, particular in the post where he doesn't always play with the size he has (I think he's better on perimeter guys). He needs to continue to gain defensive awareness, but I think that will come naturally with reps. Don't forget he only got like 17 mins a game last year and only had a short run against starters. I disagree somewhat about his lack of a handle, I think its lose and that leads to turnovers but his general explosiveness combined with some decent moves (spin, eurostep, a developing crossover) allows him to get to the hoop where he's' actually a pretty decent finisher. needs to tighten that handle but even with I where it is it's obvious he can get into the paint which gives him some upside as a scorer. If his three point shot comes along than he could score 20+ a night just with three and attacking off close outs + transition. He's never gonna be a point guard like passer, buts he's not selfish and can make the obvious pass and when he's been given ball handling opportunities in off/pree season he's dropped a couple nice dimes so I don't think he'll be a negative as a passer. So really, I don't see any HUGE deficine or areas where you say "He's hopeless," it depends on what skills he improves and how much they improve. I think he has the right attitude and a strong work ethic and I hope he meets his potential because I see some leadership ability there.

For this season all I want is for him to be aggressive. Go at the hoop hard, improve your shooting, bring energy, work on your defense. That it, show you are improving. There's no free agent to lure this offseason, and with GH done likely no chance of beating Cleveland (I think we still make the second round, but TOR/WAS/MIL would be a tough win). Its not always gonna be pretty, Brown is gonna be asked to do more than we can reasonably expect and that leads to ugly play sometimes, but I'm optimistic.

Re: Expectations for Jaylen Brown
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2017, 12:56:05 PM »

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I've really been impressed with Brown since the preseason.  His ceiling as a scorer looks much higher than I anticipated.  He seems to find himself open quite a bit, he is always in the action on a fast break, he creates shots from steals and off the dribble taking it to the hoop.  After the summer league I saw no reason to think Brown would be a high scorer, but he looks pretty awesome to me right now.  I'm very excited with his progress.  I'm now guessing he'll be better than a guy like Derozan within a couple years.  If he learns to maintain his concentration and finishes a couple extra dunks/bunnies that he misses per game, he'll score even more on better efficiency.

Ya here is my deal with that. Most of us felt the same way about Brown but after one game we're changing our tunes? Brown looked really good last night and if that's the guy we're getting on most nights this season I'll eat a big plate of crow.

He was up for this game let's see if that continues.
I said since the preseason started.  I'm not changing my tune based on one game.  He has shown a pattern of improved play since last year and this summer.

Re: Expectations for Jaylen Brown
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2017, 02:07:16 PM »

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I want to see Jaylen stop going for stupid fakes. Bron had him jumping all over the place. He just needs to be smarter on defense and keep his base, stop falling for every little move.

I wish his handles were better but eventually I suspect it will get better.

Re: Expectations for Jaylen Brown
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2017, 02:19:41 PM »

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I want to see Jaylen stop going for stupid fakes. Bron had him jumping all over the place. He just needs to be smarter on defense and keep his base, stop falling for every little move.

I wish his handles were better but eventually I suspect it will get better.

Yeah, I loved his activity level though. His D will improve with more action against real NBA players.

As for his handles, I suspect that will improve, as well, but I am a little more concerned with the 23 fga and 0 assists. I mean, other than Kyrie and maybe Tatum, there is nobody else I really want to see taking shots, but that is the kind of thing that rubs teammates the wrong way.

Re: Expectations for Jaylen Brown
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2017, 02:36:22 PM »

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Interesting to see Jeff Green last night...

...I am confident that Jaylen Brown will bring it night after night. He is ambitious. He works hard. He has a prototypical NBA body and athleticism. He D'ed up LeBron last night with satisfying aplomb.

I think we are not going to know who he is until he is a little older, and more mentally mature. He's just, what, 20?

But we have  a lot to like with his effort. This is NOT Jeff Green. This is a kid with heart, work ethic, and great athleticism.

So far, he seems very bright.

Re: Expectations for Jaylen Brown
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2017, 02:37:38 PM »

Offline seancally

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I want to see Jaylen stop going for stupid fakes. Bron had him jumping all over the place. He just needs to be smarter on defense and keep his base, stop falling for every little move.

I wish his handles were better but eventually I suspect it will get better.

Yeah, I loved his activity level though. His D will improve with more action against real NBA players.

As for his handles, I suspect that will improve, as well, but I am a little more concerned with the 23 fga and 0 assists. I mean, other than Kyrie and maybe Tatum, there is nobody else I really want to see taking shots, but that is the kind of thing that rubs teammates the wrong way.

Agreed, although I thing it looks worse come from a dude like Melo who plays no D than from a dude like Jaylen Brown who is hustling and defending and playing his tail off all the time.
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