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Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2017, 06:06:20 AM »

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No.

Sometimes there's nobody to blame. It's not on Crowder, or Lebron, or Kyrie, or Hayward himself.  It just happened.


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Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2017, 06:09:23 AM »

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No.

Sometimes there's nobody to blame. It's not on Crowder, or Lebron, or Kyrie, or Hayward himself.  It just happened.

I agree. At first I wanted to throw blame at someone too but in the end it's just one of those horrible things that can happen.
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Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2017, 06:41:44 AM »

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Nothing dirty by anyone.  This is a non-discussion.

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2017, 06:49:14 AM »

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I think Crowder was going at it hard last night.   There were some plays where he simply was throwing his body around.   He did that for us when he played for us.   That stopped when he tangled with Baines.

LeBron clotheslined him watch the play.  LeBron gets away with murder all the time.  It was him who was dirty hitting a guy in the air.   There was more contact in that play than folks think.   When you hit a guy who was in the air, he is vulnerable.

http://www.nba.com/article/2017/10/17/celtics-gordon-hayward-suffers-lower-left-leg-injury#/

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2017, 07:17:41 AM »

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I think Crowder was going at it hard last night.   There were some plays where he simply was throwing his body around.   He did that for us when he played for us.   That stopped when he tangled with Baines.

LeBron clotheslined him watch the play.  LeBron gets away with murder all the time.  It was him who was dirty hitting a guy in the air.   There was more contact in that play than folks think.   When you hit a guy who was in the air, he is vulnerable.

http://www.nba.com/article/2017/10/17/celtics-gordon-hayward-suffers-lower-left-leg-injury#/
I thought the same that is why he was so nice to Heyward because he knows the truth. I was in the I don't like Lebron camp but now I am a new camp for him.
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Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2017, 07:34:04 AM »

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No.

Sometimes there's nobody to blame. It's not on Crowder, or Lebron, or Kyrie, or Hayward himself.  It just happened.

You are partially right in that the break just happened.  But, you are dead wrong in that the hip check and the clothesline in mid-air "just happened" Roy.  Both Crowder and especially Lebron are veterans and both knew what they were doing.  They were sending a message.  After all the things that Crowder said about Boston signing Hayward, you certainly have CLEAR motive.  Watch the replay over and over again and just watch the force of the hip check while Hayward was defenseless in the air.

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Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2017, 07:36:15 AM »

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no. he was just trying to body him out of the oop.   bad luck.

While he was in mid-air.  Come on Chief Macho!!!!

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Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2017, 07:45:33 AM »

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Normal foul. Just landed awkwardly. Unlucky.

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2017, 07:47:40 AM »

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No.

Sometimes there's nobody to blame. It's not on Crowder, or Lebron, or Kyrie, or Hayward himself.  It just happened.

You are partially right in that the break just happened.  But, you are dead wrong in that the hip check and the clothesline in mid-air "just happened" Roy.  Both Crowder and especially Lebron are veterans and both knew what they were doing.  They were sending a message.  After all the things that Crowder said about Boston signing Hayward, you certainly have CLEAR motive.  Watch the replay over and over again and just watch the force of the hip check while Hayward was defenseless in the air.

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Contact happens in the air all the time. It doesn't make a play dirty, though.


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Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2017, 07:54:49 AM »

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No.

Sometimes there's nobody to blame. It's not on Crowder, or Lebron, or Kyrie, or Hayward himself.  It just happened.

You are partially right in that the break just happened.  But, you are dead wrong in that the hip check and the clothesline in mid-air "just happened" Roy.  Both Crowder and especially Lebron are veterans and both knew what they were doing.  They were sending a message.  After all the things that Crowder said about Boston signing Hayward, you certainly have CLEAR motive.  Watch the replay over and over again and just watch the force of the hip check while Hayward was defenseless in the air.

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Contact happens in the air all the time. It doesn't make a play dirty, though.

Contact happens in the air but you don't hip check a player in mid air. Unlucky yes. Do I blame Lebron for the clothesline? No. Is Crowder somewhat at fault for the hip check, in my eyes 100%. His one arm might be in the air to "make a play for the ball" but he tangles up Hayward with his other arm and clearly sticks his hip out and undercuts him.
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« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2017, 07:55:29 AM »

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At 2:30, I don't see a clothesline.  Lebron's left arm stays raised through the contact. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRe-AdlD4uQ

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2017, 08:34:05 AM »

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Did no t seem like a dirty play in my mind.   That was incredibly awkward freakish fall.  Super unlucky way to land .  I wonder if he was stretched, loose enough , being early in season maybe he was still tight .   I m so sorry for his family having to see that .  Hopefully he can play again .

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2017, 08:50:30 AM »

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Crowder can suck it.  Intentional or not.  He's been a crybaby **** for the last two years.

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2017, 08:52:31 AM »

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Yes, it was incredibly dirty from Crowder. He got beat and he hip checked Hayward while he went to the air. It got compounded by the contact with LeBron (which I don't think was dirty, he made a play for the ball).

But what Crowder did was definitely dirty. Don't see how anyone can rationalize it otherwise.

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2017, 09:20:18 AM »

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Not a dirty play. Just a normal basketball play. No one's fault.

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