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Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« on: October 17, 2017, 11:58:40 PM »

Offline CelticsElite

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https://youtu.be/axJswI60JwE


My interpretation- Crowder gets under and takes out his legs with a hip check before Hayward touches the ball. Leaves Hayward landing awkwardly. Whistle blows then Crowder walks away with what looks like a  smirk? Maybe a grimace from not being able to look at what happened? Hard to see. Idk if it was dirty but may have been more "physical" than he needed to be

You may have your own interpretation completely different than mine
« Last Edit: October 18, 2017, 01:09:45 PM by CelticsElite »

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2017, 12:04:04 AM »

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I just can't tonight...

We'll see what happens. Hopefully Gordon is OK but in terms of throwing the blame around... I just can't tonight... :'(

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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2017, 12:06:00 AM »

Offline SparzWizard

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Man eff Crowder. He's just bitter that he got replaced. Hope someone takes him out, sick of that thug.


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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2017, 12:06:44 AM »

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He diagnosed the play and went for the ball.  Very unfortunate for us but not dirty.  Frankly, as the play was unfolding my question was, why throw the pass that clearly was not open.  I have a bigger problem with that.

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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2017, 12:10:42 AM »

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That one jerk in the orange shirt near the stairs that clapped should get slept.

Re: Crowder on Hayward - was it a dirty play?
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2017, 12:13:54 AM »

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Nope. I think Crowder was trying to catch up to Hayward to try to blow the alley-oop more than anything. The only thing he did was latch onto Hayward's arm. This was just a freak accident which happens every now and again. However, a foul absolutely should have been called.

How can you tell the look on Crowder's face was a laughing smirk? It looked to me more like a grimace, but I don't think anyone can tell from that camera angle, which was too far away, to make out Crowder's facial expression.


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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2017, 12:28:57 AM »

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I honestly don't think it was dirty. 

Looking at the replay, that doesn't look like a smirk on Crowder's face to me.  To me that looked like an expression of horror and guilt.  The look in his eyes, in particular - was not a look of amusement.

Looking at Thompson, Wade and Lebron they all looked sick to the stomach just from seeing the injury.  Thompson was facing the other way like he couldn't bare to look. 

As much as I hate the Cavs and would love any excuse to point fingers at them, I think all of those guys sincerely felt horrible.
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2017, 12:39:43 AM »

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I've watched it quite a few times....  Nothing about it seems dirty to me, and I didn't get a feel from anyone that they were happy about it.  Every single player was devastated.  This is a completely freak accident that has only happened a handful of times.  The "undercut" was very minimal if at all...  It was a contested alley oop, versus  Hayward already being in the air and someone "running" under him.  Quite a bit different.

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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2017, 12:54:31 AM »

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Great job by Kevin Harlan and REggie
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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2017, 01:38:52 AM »

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no. he was just trying to body him out of the oop.   bad luck.

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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2017, 01:40:20 AM »

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Great job by Kevin Harlan and REggie

Said no one, ever :laugh:.

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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2017, 02:25:35 AM »

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Lebron injures another player "accidentally." See Danny Granger.
Lebron and Wade are the dirtiest players in basketball.

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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2017, 02:41:33 AM »

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Nah I dont think so. It was a play for the ball.

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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2017, 03:17:00 AM »

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I felt it was a risky play. As are a lot of attempts at last second block attempts. When you are out of position to challenge a shot if you have safety in mind you avoid drawing unnecessary contact and do not jump at a guy in the air. It's as simple as that to me. I believe Crowder and LeBron didn't have the angle for that play and Hayward payed the price.

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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2017, 03:24:12 AM »

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Great job by Kevin Harlan and REggie

Said no one, ever :laugh:.

Funnily enough that was a compliment for them shutting up.
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