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Re: Silver: "change will come to One and Done age limit"
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2017, 08:36:19 PM »

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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/adam-silver-right-calling-end-one-done-rule-170421752.html

Not clear if it'll be lowered or increased. Yahoo speculates the days of prospects like Kobe and Lebron entering the NBA straight from high school may return
Gotta think its the opposite. Owners don't want to be paying teenagers millions to develop their talents. They would rather have them develop their skills for free in college. I think they bump up the age limit by at least one year.
Except Silver has consistently said they are going to do away with it entirely (I actually think they will go with the baseball system, you can come out after high school but if you go to college you will be required to stay 2 seasons).  He doesn't see the point in the rule for the top level players and thinks the players would get better development in the GLeague or NBA then they are getting in college. 
If players straight out of high school were required to spend at least their first season in the G-League, that would work.  would likely see the bulk of the one-and-done kids skip college for that first paycheck.
That isn't what Silver has been saying and why should he?  Did Lebron James need to spend a year in the GLeague?  Silver has consistently taken the position that if the player is ready he should be given the opportunity to play and grow at the highest level.  It is up to the teams to determine who is ready, when, and where a player should be drafted. 
Lebron is the exception, not the rule.  the odds you'd be holding back a high-schooler from being a top player in his rookie season is extremely remote.

better option is have highschoolers participate in a G-league draft where they play for a year (or more depending on the length of the contract they sign) and then become eligible for the NBA draft.  They owe no allegiance to their G-league team.  if they go undrafted by the NBA, they're free to sign with whatever team/league they can find.

I would the player's association would be in favor of this to an extent because it buys an extra year or more for players already in the league to draw an NBA paycheck.
Lebron isn't that much of an exception.  Plenty of straight from high school players had solid rookie seasons and the success rate of the high school players in the league in general was greater than even the 1 and done (or at least around the same).  This notion that high school kids were failures and they needed to be protected was just silly nonsense.

Lebron had more than a solid rookie season, he averaged 20-5-5 with 1.6 steals.

If Lebron isnít that much of an exception, what other rookie out of HS put up 20 a game? Or 15-5-5?
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Re: Silver: "change will come to One and Done age limit"
« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2017, 08:41:05 PM »

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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/adam-silver-right-calling-end-one-done-rule-170421752.html

Not clear if it'll be lowered or increased. Yahoo speculates the days of prospects like Kobe and Lebron entering the NBA straight from high school may return
Gotta think its the opposite. Owners don't want to be paying teenagers millions to develop their talents. They would rather have them develop their skills for free in college. I think they bump up the age limit by at least one year.
Except Silver has consistently said they are going to do away with it entirely (I actually think they will go with the baseball system, you can come out after high school but if you go to college you will be required to stay 2 seasons).  He doesn't see the point in the rule for the top level players and thinks the players would get better development in the GLeague or NBA then they are getting in college. 
If players straight out of high school were required to spend at least their first season in the G-League, that would work.  would likely see the bulk of the one-and-done kids skip college for that first paycheck.
That isn't what Silver has been saying and why should he?  Did Lebron James need to spend a year in the GLeague?  Silver has consistently taken the position that if the player is ready he should be given the opportunity to play and grow at the highest level.  It is up to the teams to determine who is ready, when, and where a player should be drafted. 
Lebron is the exception, not the rule.  the odds you'd be holding back a high-schooler from being a top player in his rookie season is extremely remote.

better option is have highschoolers participate in a G-league draft where they play for a year (or more depending on the length of the contract they sign) and then become eligible for the NBA draft.  They owe no allegiance to their G-league team.  if they go undrafted by the NBA, they're free to sign with whatever team/league they can find.

I would the player's association would be in favor of this to an extent because it buys an extra year or more for players already in the league to draw an NBA paycheck.
Lebron isn't that much of an exception.  Plenty of straight from high school players had solid rookie seasons and the success rate of the high school players in the league in general was greater than even the 1 and done (or at least around the same).  This notion that high school kids were failures and they needed to be protected was just silly nonsense.

Lebron had more than a solid rookie season, he averaged 20-5-5 with 1.6 steals.

If Lebron isnít that much of an exception, what other rookie out of HS put up 20 a game? Or 15-5-5?
kevin garnett. Kobe. Dwight.

That stat line is a random goal post. The point is high schoolers should be able to enter be nba. period. It will most likely happen soon too

Re: Silver: "change will come to One and Done age limit"
« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2017, 08:50:17 PM »

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Good for Adam, heís been a great commish thus far.

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Re: Silver: "change will come to One and Done age limit"
« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2017, 12:33:51 AM »

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It's good to let players come out of high school but the alternative shouldn't be forced to stay in school 2 years.
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Re: Silver: "change will come to One and Done age limit"
« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2017, 04:09:34 PM »

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It's good to let players come out of high school but the alternative shouldn't be forced to stay in school 2 years.
why?
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Re: Silver: "change will come to One and Done age limit"
« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2017, 04:30:12 PM »

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It's good to let players come out of high school but the alternative shouldn't be forced to stay in school 2 years.
why?

That's just worse news for colleges. Committing to two years of college is a lot to ask of young kids; I can't imagine any somewhat highly rated prospect is going to give up two possible years of getting paid in order to go to college...unless it's actually to go and learn.

If this keeps going the way it seems (expanded G-League 'minor league' system), college basketball is going to go the way of college baseball. No reason to even have the argument over whether or not college [basketball] athletes should be paid. That answer will be a resounding 'NO' when revenues plummet due to total lack of talent.

Re: Silver: "change will come to One and Done age limit"
« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2017, 05:33:00 PM »

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It's good to let players come out of high school but the alternative shouldn't be forced to stay in school 2 years.
why?

That's just worse news for colleges. Committing to two years of college is a lot to ask of young kids; I can't imagine any somewhat highly rated prospect is going to give up two possible years of getting paid in order to go to college...unless it's actually to go and learn.

If this keeps going the way it seems (expanded G-League 'minor league' system), college basketball is going to go the way of college baseball. No reason to even have the argument over whether or not college [basketball] athletes should be paid. That answer will be a resounding 'NO' when revenues plummet due to total lack of talent.

IMO, this is a good thing.  College basketball might become more of the amateur sport it should be, instead of a billion dollar business that doesn't fairly compensate it's best players.

Top prospects will still get drafted early, but lower prospects can come out of HS, play in the G-League for a few years at a lower risk to the team, and legitimately make some money, instead of having to resort to being paid 'under the table'.

It's possible that when the G-League has 30 clubs, each associated with a NBA team, you could see the draft expand to three rounds.  For now, it might mean players who come out of HS and are not drafted, instead sign on as unaffiliated G-League players.  That's still probably better for their development.

Re: Silver: "change will come to One and Done age limit"
« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2017, 11:31:44 PM »

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It's good to let players come out of high school but the alternative shouldn't be forced to stay in school 2 years.
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Because it's unfair for the players.
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Re: Silver: "change will come to One and Done age limit"
« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2017, 10:46:01 AM »

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It's good to let players come out of high school but the alternative shouldn't be forced to stay in school 2 years.
why?
Because it's unfair for the players.
not really. Very similar rule to baseball except baseball is 3 years.  If you don't want to go to college for 2 years then don't go.  No one is making them.
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