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Re: Wiggins signs max contract
« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2017, 02:27:27 PM »

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Good for the wolves. While it is a ton of money, Wiggins is one of the best young players in the game. Itís hard for them to sign talent and itís good to see them not botch this situation with their young star like they did with Love. Have to do the same for Towns next year.

He is not even close to that. He is a volume scorer and nothing more right now. And volume scorers are the easiest player to replace or get on your team. You are basically paying a player to score in volume inefficiently and praying he develops other skills. Cause right now he has none.
Lol wrong. Wiggins is absolutely one of the best young players in the league. He is only 22 years old. Almost every young star has holes in their game. KAT (defense), Embiid (Injuries), Booker (defense), Simmons (shooting). Most people donít start off like Lebron or Duncan without any holes in their game.

Wiggins is already an elite scorer. He dropped 23 ppg last year on 45.2% and 35.6% from 3. He also did that while having horrendous spacing around him. He played in a lineup with 2 centers and a total non factor from outside in Rubio next to him. Heís also only missed 1 game in 3 years. Wiggins has holes in his game, but to say he is not one of the best young players in the game is ridiculous.

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. He is not even close to one of the best young best young players in the game. It is not about him having holes in his game. It's that he does only one thing well right now. Volume score. He is one of the worst defensive players in the league. His opponents shooting % shows that you could have air guarding them and their % would actually go down. He is an awful passer despite his potential(not his actual assists) assists going up every year. He is a terrible rebounder who often drifts out of position. He has terrible footwork and often lags on plays. He is NOT an elite scorer. You see the PPG and age and like a naive fan think he must be a great scorer. He is a volume scorer and shooter. I don't think you know what volume scoring is.

Advanced statistics HATE Wiggins. VORP, BPM, RMP, DRPM, etc all ranked him among the worst players at his position. Wiggins defenders point out that advanced stats don't truly capture his ability as a player and penalize his deficiencies too harshly. Advanced stat fans will say they accurately show what players like Wiggins are doing on the court. One trick ponies who don't make anyone better.

The Timberwolves will pray he improves or they will end up paying for it for a long time.
Honestly, youíre the one who couldnít be more wrong if you tried. You sound like someone who doesnít actually watch the games but likes to argue anyway. I know advanced stats hate Wiggins. Advanced stats hate most young players, as they have holes in their games like I said. Do you also hate guys like Devin Booker too?

Notice how I said Wiggins is one of the best YOUNG players in the game. Not best players in the game, but one of the best young players in the game.

I also donít think you know what volume scoring is. A volume scorer is someone who scores a lot of points, but takes a lot of shots to do so and isnít efficient. Now explain to me how 23.6 PPG on 45.2% and 35.6% from 3 is not efficient. Add in Wiggins being 22 years old and playing on a team with awful spacing, as well as being incredibly durable, missing 1 game in 3 years and leading the NBA in minutes last year, and that clearly makes him one of the best young players in the league, even if he doesnít add anything else.

I advise you to maybe actually watch the games before you come on here to argue.

Well people who actually watch all of Wolves game tell me otherwise so Im going to believe them instead of you.
And I watch all the Wolves games too. But sure, it makes sense to randomly take one strangerís opinion on the internet over another one's for no reason  ::)
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Re: Wiggins signs max contract
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2017, 09:36:02 PM »

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Anyone who said Wiggins isnít one of the best young players in the league, please watch the Wolves vs Thunder game that just happened and get back to me.
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Re: Wiggins signs max contract
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2017, 09:42:30 PM »

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Wiggins hit a game-winner earlier in his career.

Re: Wiggins signs max contract
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2017, 09:54:26 PM »

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I feel like Wiggins and Brown are on the same trajectory. 2 freak athletes who can't do much else but score.

Re: Wiggins signs max contract
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2017, 10:00:03 PM »

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Wiggins hit a game-winner earlier in his career.
Not only the game winner, but the putback dunk and spin layup. All in the last 2 minutes. Wiggins won that game for the wolves.
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Re: Wiggins signs max contract
« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2017, 01:13:18 AM »

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Embiid  - Superstar, if healthy (IMO 50% to stay healthy)
Wiggins - Healthy, may become a superstar (IMO 33% to become Superstar)
 
I am sure that everyone has their own %s.
Which player/contract would you rather have?
neither, I don't like either contract

Re: Wiggins signs max contract
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2017, 07:29:08 AM »

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I feel like Wiggins and Brown are on the same trajectory. 2 freak athletes who can't do much else but score.
Are you talking about Jaylen Brown? Scoring isn't even his best asset. His defensive versatility is still the most important thing he brings to the game.

Re: Wiggins signs max contract
« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2017, 08:09:15 AM »

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I feel like Wiggins and Brown are on the same trajectory. 2 freak athletes who can't do much else but score.

Nope. Wiggins has proven so far that he's a better scorer, and Brown is a better defender.

But they are both freak athletes.

Re: Wiggins signs max contract
« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2017, 09:14:38 AM »

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I feel like Wiggins and Brown are on the same trajectory. 2 freak athletes who can't do much else but score.
What?? Jaylen is already a better defender and rebounder. Wiggins is definitely the better volume scorer (at this stage - he is basically 2 years older than JB)
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Re: Wiggins signs max contract
« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2017, 10:10:11 PM »

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Those poor timberwolves... Wiggins is literally walking around on D.

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