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Re: Ojeleye vs Tatum
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2017, 12:08:09 PM »

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Semi's 3-point shot is wet (especially at the top of the key), but offensively Tatum is just so much more versatile. Semi went 4-7 from 3 last night, but some of his in close misses were ugly.

I'll peg Semi into that 3&D category, which is pretty good considering where he was drafted.

Tatum's versatility, along with the ability to make his own shot, should put him a cut above Semi in the long run. Keep in mind that Semi will be turning 23 in December, while Tatum won't turn 20 until March of next year.



"Wet" as in bad, or bad as in good.

Re: Ojeleye vs Tatum
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2017, 12:25:50 PM »

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I thought this topic was going to be about that play where they collided both trying to catch that lob pass for the alley-oop last night.  :laugh:

Re: Ojeleye vs Tatum
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2017, 12:45:14 PM »

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Semi's 3-point shot is wet (especially at the top of the key), but offensively Tatum is just so much more versatile. Semi went 4-7 from 3 last night, but some of his in close misses were ugly.

I'll peg Semi into that 3&D category, which is pretty good considering where he was drafted.

Tatum's versatility, along with the ability to make his own shot, should put him a cut above Semi in the long run. Keep in mind that Semi will be turning 23 in December, while Tatum won't turn 20 until March of next year.



"Wet" as in bad, or bad as in good.

Lol wet as in good/pure etc. We used to say "Water" growing up if a shot was nothing but net, so as we got older we just said "wet".

Re: Ojeleye vs Tatum
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2017, 05:15:54 PM »

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If Semi is better than Tatum, it means Tatum has massively underachieved.

Re: Ojeleye vs Tatum
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2017, 10:10:03 PM »

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If Semi is better than Tatum, it means Tatum has massively underachieved.

People on this board dramatically overrate Semi. I expect him to get very little playing time this  year, certainly much less than Tatum. He hasn't looked at all NBA ready me, he can hit the open 3, but you won't be as open as he was against Philly very often. I also don't think his defense is nearly as good as some here claim. I expect that he will get garbage time only and maybe see lots of time in Maine.

Re: Ojeleye vs Tatum
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2017, 10:36:12 PM »

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Some good pts.

Currently two things Semi does better than Tatum. Defense and 3 pt shooting.  I would say passing/quick decisions as well.  At this rate , could end up becoming a better Jae Crowder. A better vertical leaping version.

Tatum has high level potential. But at times his defense reminds me of James Young more than I'd like. A little lost and does not have the explosiveness to bail him out. Also 3 pt shooting is shaky at the moment. Im hopefully he can iron out these deficiencies....

No doubt he commands more attention due to his skill level. But if little to no improvements are made, who does CBS resort to in a close game? (Hypothetically)

Not that Brad Stevens knows what he is talking about, but he did have this to say about Tatum's defense:

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2017/10/10/morning-sports-update-jayson-tatums-defense-is-beyond-his-years-according-to-brad-stevens

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“I don’t know if surprised is the right word, but Jayson Tatum’s defense is beyond his years,” Stevens said, via Mass Live’s Jay King. “He’s very savvy and very long. He uses his length. His arms are out and he gets his hands on balls and deflects passes and discourages drives just because of his length. I think he’ll continue to get better and better with the other stuff systemically, but he’s done a good job for a young guy so far.”

Semi may have the edge right now (on D, only) due to his experience, but I don't think there is really any question here.

Re: Ojeleye vs Tatum
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2017, 11:13:05 AM »

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If Semi is better than Tatum, it means Tatum has massively underachieved.

People on this board dramatically overrate Semi. I expect him to get very little playing time this  year, certainly much less than Tatum. He hasn't looked at all NBA ready me, he can hit the open 3, but you won't be as open as he was against Philly very often. I also don't think his defense is nearly as good as some here claim. I expect that he will get garbage time only and maybe see lots of time in Maine.

Disagree

Yes he will be open...bc who is going to focus on him when you have Irving, Hayward etc on the floor

In turn if teams cant leave Semi alone, it provides more space for everyone else

His 3 pt shooting (from furthest pt of the court) is legit

Re: Ojeleye vs Tatum
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2017, 11:59:27 AM »

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I really don't think there's much chance of that.
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Re: Ojeleye vs Tatum
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2017, 12:08:12 PM »

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If Semi is better than Tatum, it means Tatum has massively underachieved.

People on this board dramatically overrate Semi. I expect him to get very little playing time this  year, certainly much less than Tatum. He hasn't looked at all NBA ready me, he can hit the open 3, but you won't be as open as he was against Philly very often. I also don't think his defense is nearly as good as some here claim. I expect that he will get garbage time only and maybe see lots of time in Maine.

Disagree

Yes he will be open...bc who is going to focus on him when you have Irving, Hayward etc on the floor

In turn if teams cant leave Semi alone, it provides more space for everyone else

His 3 pt shooting (from furthest pt of the court) is legit

Wow! Semi is now hitting full court shots? What a find by Ainge!

Re: Ojeleye vs Tatum
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2017, 11:49:40 PM »

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Semi's 3-point shot is wet (especially at the top of the key), but offensively Tatum is just so much more versatile. Semi went 4-7 from 3 last night, but some of his in close misses were ugly.

I'll peg Semi into that 3&D category, which is pretty good considering where he was drafted.

Tatum's versatility, along with the ability to make his own shot, should put him a cut above Semi in the long run. Keep in mind that Semi will be turning 23 in December, while Tatum won't turn 20 until March of next year.



"Wet" as in bad, or bad as in good.

Lol wet as in good/pure etc. We used to say "Water" growing up if a shot was nothing but net, so as we got older we just said "wet".

And here I was thinking that it was some kind of euphemism.

Re: Ojeleye vs Tatum
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2017, 12:46:49 AM »

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I would be well beyond shocked :)

Re: Ojeleye vs Tatum
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2017, 01:07:31 AM »

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I'd be more than shocked
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Re: Ojeleye vs Tatum
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2017, 10:07:26 AM »

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Yes, it would be surprising if the 37th pick turned out better than the 3rd pick. We can trot out examples of 2nd rounders who became all stars and top picks that were busts but there's no debating that that doesn't typically happen.

I haven't seen anything from Semi that makes me think he'll be better than Jayson. Put whatever stock you like in preseason stats but the numbers don't back that up either.

Re: Ojeleye vs Tatum
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2017, 10:34:11 AM »

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If Semi is better than Tatum, it means Tatum has massively underachieved.

People on this board dramatically overrate Semi. I expect him to get very little playing time this  year, certainly much less than Tatum. He hasn't looked at all NBA ready me, he can hit the open 3, but you won't be as open as he was against Philly very often. I also don't think his defense is nearly as good as some here claim. I expect that he will get garbage time only and maybe see lots of time in Maine.

Disagree

Yes he will be open...bc who is going to focus on him when you have Irving, Hayward etc on the floor

In turn if teams cant leave Semi alone, it provides more space for everyone else

His 3 pt shooting (from furthest pt of the court) is legit
Semi should consider himself fortunate if he sees the court in half the team's games and if more than 5 of those appearances aren't in garbage time or due to injuries to better players.

After 4 preseason games Tatum already looks much better than Semi and figures to continue to widen the gap between them talent-wise. 

Is Semi your new Mickey Triboy?

Re: Ojeleye vs Tatum
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2017, 12:10:57 PM »

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If Semi is better than Tatum, it means Tatum has massively underachieved.

People on this board dramatically overrate Semi. I expect him to get very little playing time this  year, certainly much less than Tatum. He hasn't looked at all NBA ready me, he can hit the open 3, but you won't be as open as he was against Philly very often. I also don't think his defense is nearly as good as some here claim. I expect that he will get garbage time only and maybe see lots of time in Maine.

Disagree

Yes he will be open...bc who is going to focus on him when you have Irving, Hayward etc on the floor

In turn if teams cant leave Semi alone, it provides more space for everyone else

His 3 pt shooting (from furthest pt of the court) is legit
Semi should consider himself fortunate if he sees the court in half the team's games and if more than 5 of those appearances aren't in garbage time or due to injuries to better players.

After 4 preseason games Tatum already looks much better than Semi and figures to continue to widen the gap between them talent-wise. 

Is Semi your new Mickey Triboy?

That's a good question. Triboy, who's better Mickey or Semi?