Draft night deal sending Melo, PG13 to cavs fell apart last minute

[Surferdad]

so me and PG stayed connected throughout the course of the season

Does he mean the 2016 draft? or did he mean to say off-season?

[tazzmaniac]

So probably something like Irving, Love and fillers for PG13 and Melo....

I don't think that really makes them really that much better. I mean PG13 is an upgrade in some ways. Gives an other guy to guard KD, but Melo may be a worse defender than Love, but Love can rebound.

I bet they would have gone hard at Rondo after that. Wade would have had to come off the bench.

This is probably why Irving wanted the trade and was done with Lebron. This was in the works during the playoffs and Irving caught wind. And heres Lebron talking about giving the KID all his attention and the keys. Bull #$#$.

I don't think the Cavs were looking to trade Irving until he requested it.  If they knew earlier, they could have easily completed a trade around Irving for PG  I think they were looking to move Love for PG.  Irving, PG, Lebron would have been a strong contender. 

[SHAQATTACK]

They 'll make fine Lakers too. 

[A Future of Stevens]

So probably something like Irving, Love and fillers for PG13 and Melo....

I don't think that really makes them really that much better. I mean PG13 is an upgrade in some ways. Gives an other guy to guard KD, but Melo may be a worse defender than Love, but Love can rebound.

I bet they would have gone hard at Rondo after that. Wade would have had to come off the bench.

This is probably why Irving wanted the trade and was done with Lebron. This was in the works during the playoffs and Irving caught wind. And heres Lebron talking about giving the KID all his attention and the keys. Bull #$#$.

I don't think the Cavs were looking to trade Irving until he requested it.  If they knew earlier, they could have easily completed a trade around Irving for PG  I think they were looking to move Love for PG.  Irving, PG, Lebron would have been a strong contender.

So what do they move for melo in that scenario? They would have zero assets if Kyrie is off the table and Love had been traded. Granted Melo isn't worth much, but Kanter and Doggie Mcbuckets is realistically more than the Cavs would have hypothetically had in assets.

[Moranis]

You couldn't have just posted in the thread that already exists on this.  The one that is 5 lines down in this forum (so was even higher when you posted this).

[Sketch5]

So probably something like Irving, Love and fillers for PG13 and Melo....

I don't think that really makes them really that much better. I mean PG13 is an upgrade in some ways. Gives an other guy to guard KD, but Melo may be a worse defender than Love, but Love can rebound.

I bet they would have gone hard at Rondo after that. Wade would have had to come off the bench.

This is probably why Irving wanted the trade and was done with Lebron. This was in the works during the playoffs and Irving caught wind. And heres Lebron talking about giving the KID all his attention and the keys. Bull #$#$.

I don't think the Cavs were looking to trade Irving until he requested it.  If they knew earlier, they could have easily completed a trade around Irving for PG  I think they were looking to move Love for PG.  Irving, PG, Lebron would have been a strong contender.

There were several rumors that the Cavs were going after one of these guys at on point or an other, and Irving was part of that rumor. At the time is was speculation, but now it's sounding like it's true.

[Moranis]

So probably something like Irving, Love and fillers for PG13 and Melo....

I don't think that really makes them really that much better. I mean PG13 is an upgrade in some ways. Gives an other guy to guard KD, but Melo may be a worse defender than Love, but Love can rebound.

I bet they would have gone hard at Rondo after that. Wade would have had to come off the bench.

This is probably why Irving wanted the trade and was done with Lebron. This was in the works during the playoffs and Irving caught wind. And heres Lebron talking about giving the KID all his attention and the keys. Bull #$#$.

I don't think the Cavs were looking to trade Irving until he requested it.  If they knew earlier, they could have easily completed a trade around Irving for PG  I think they were looking to move Love for PG.  Irving, PG, Lebron would have been a strong contender.

There were several rumors that the Cavs were going after one of these guys at on point or an other, and Irving was part of that rumor. At the time is was speculation, but now it's sounding like it's true.

There is no way at all the Cavs were trading Irving and Love for George and Anthony.  The Cavs wouldn't even trade Irving for George straight up. 

[Roy H.]

So probably something like Irving, Love and fillers for PG13 and Melo....

I don't think that really makes them really that much better. I mean PG13 is an upgrade in some ways. Gives an other guy to guard KD, but Melo may be a worse defender than Love, but Love can rebound.

I bet they would have gone hard at Rondo after that. Wade would have had to come off the bench.

This is probably why Irving wanted the trade and was done with Lebron. This was in the works during the playoffs and Irving caught wind. And heres Lebron talking about giving the KID all his attention and the keys. Bull #$#$.

I don't think the Cavs were looking to trade Irving until he requested it.  If they knew earlier, they could have easily completed a trade around Irving for PG  I think they were looking to move Love for PG.  Irving, PG, Lebron would have been a strong contender.

So what do they move for melo in that scenario? They would have zero assets if Kyrie is off the table and Love had been traded. Granted Melo isn't worth much, but Kanter and Doggie Mcbuckets is realistically more than the Cavs would have hypothetically had in assets.

Keep in mind that Phil Jackson was still GM. He was willing to trade Carmelo for much less.

[Moranis]

So probably something like Irving, Love and fillers for PG13 and Melo....

I don't think that really makes them really that much better. I mean PG13 is an upgrade in some ways. Gives an other guy to guard KD, but Melo may be a worse defender than Love, but Love can rebound.

I bet they would have gone hard at Rondo after that. Wade would have had to come off the bench.

This is probably why Irving wanted the trade and was done with Lebron. This was in the works during the playoffs and Irving caught wind. And heres Lebron talking about giving the KID all his attention and the keys. Bull #$#$.

I don't think the Cavs were looking to trade Irving until he requested it.  If they knew earlier, they could have easily completed a trade around Irving for PG  I think they were looking to move Love for PG.  Irving, PG, Lebron would have been a strong contender.

So what do they move for melo in that scenario? They would have zero assets if Kyrie is off the table and Love had been traded. Granted Melo isn't worth much, but Kanter and Doggie Mcbuckets is realistically more than the Cavs would have hypothetically had in assets.

Keep in mind that Phil Jackson was still GM. He was willing to trade Carmelo for much less.

Yeah I imagine it wasn't much more than Shumpert and Frye, i.e. a pure salary dump.  maybe Felder and Tavares.  I also think it is might have been possible for the Knicks to move Noah for Smith (or something like that), which would have made some sense for the Cavs in that scenario since they are deep at wing, but would have had no back-up for Thompson.  But there is no way the Cavs were trading Irving.