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After today's trade, there are legitimately 7 teams that could really challenge the Nets for being the worst team in the league. Atlanta, Indiana, New York, Chicago, LAL, Sacramento, and Phoenix are all legit challengers to that "crown," and that's not even counting teams like the Magic that could very well be in competition for the last spot, too.

Somehow Danny saw the writing on the wall with this year's Nets pick. Let's just hope that the increased competition in the West will keep LA in that bottom five group.
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With the lottery reform potentially coming and now new york gutted, yeah. But kanter isn't Terrible

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I'm not sure how this trade effects the Lakers. Even before the Melo trade, OKC was going to be heavily favored to beat up LA. If anything this might hurt the LA pick we have because the Knicks are that much worse.

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Yes and it drastically increase our chance for getting KP cause now he is in losing hell forever

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After today's trade, there are legitimately 7 teams that could really challenge the Nets for being the worst team in the league. Atlanta, Indiana, New York, Chicago, LAL, Sacramento, and Phoenix are all legit challengers to that "crown," and that's not even counting teams like the Magic that could very well be in competition for the last spot, too.

Somehow Danny saw the writing on the wall with this year's Nets pick. Let's just hope that the increased competition in the West will keep LA in that bottom five group.
The Lakers look to me to be by far the best team out of all the teams listed.

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After today's trade, there are legitimately 7 teams that could really challenge the Nets for being the worst team in the league. Atlanta, Indiana, New York, Chicago, LAL, Sacramento, and Phoenix are all legit challengers to that "crown," and that's not even counting teams like the Magic that could very well be in competition for the last spot, too.

Somehow Danny saw the writing on the wall with this year's Nets pick. Let's just hope that the increased competition in the West will keep LA in that bottom five group.

The thing about playing in a harder division is that it doesn't actually decrease expected wins all that much. Every team plays everyone else twice, so 58/82 games are identical between all teams. This means that even playing in a tougher conference only makes maybe 2 wins difference all else being equal. We may have to hope for injury problems or lottery luck for the LA pick to convey.

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After today's trade, there are legitimately 7 teams that could really challenge the Nets for being the worst team in the league. Atlanta, Indiana, New York, Chicago, LAL, Sacramento, and Phoenix are all legit challengers to that "crown," and that's not even counting teams like the Magic that could very well be in competition for the last spot, too.

Somehow Danny saw the writing on the wall with this year's Nets pick. Let's just hope that the increased competition in the West will keep LA in that bottom five group.

The thing about playing in a harder division is that it doesn't actually decrease expected wins all that much. Every team plays everyone else twice, so 58/82 games are identical between all teams. This means that even playing in a tougher conference only makes maybe 2 wins difference all else being equal. We may have to hope for injury problems or lottery luck for the LA pick to convey.
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After today's trade, there are legitimately 7 teams that could really challenge the Nets for being the worst team in the league. Atlanta, Indiana, New York, Chicago, LAL, Sacramento, and Phoenix are all legit challengers to that "crown," and that's not even counting teams like the Magic that could very well be in competition for the last spot, too.

Somehow Danny saw the writing on the wall with this year's Nets pick. Let's just hope that the increased competition in the West will keep LA in that bottom five group.
The Lakers look to me to be by far the best team out of all the teams listed.

I wouldn't be shocked if the Suns or Sacramento finish above LAL. The suns should get a little better due to their young players getting older, Bledsoe still being great, and Jackson is great at all of the little things. He's kind of like a 6'8 hyper athletic smart at affecting the game.

Sac is extremely young, but some of their vets should provide some strong play.
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I'm not sure how this trade effects the Lakers. Even before the Melo trade, OKC was going to be heavily favored to beat up LA. If anything this might hurt the LA pick we have because the Knicks are that much worse.

What do the Lakers have to do with this? They were in that group regardless of the Melo trade.
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Not Really.

The problem here is that there's still a good chance Nets Pick conveys between 6-10 at worst, and in this upcoming, deep and LOADED draft (flush with big men), selecting in that range could still get you a star-caliber player.

But with LAL Pick, your only chance is if it conveys 2-5, and now you add NYK to the "tanking competition" and they could end up being worse than LAL. If this LAL pick does not convey, it will really suck for us, and the only 1st round pick we will have this upcoming season will likely be our own high-20 pick. Need this pick to convey for a possible Anthony Davis or Porzingis trade this summer too.

I predict Lakers will be 3rd worst in the league this upcoming season but now the Knicks could legitimately challenge them too. Teams like the Pacers, Hawks, are wild cards too in that department.

Man I wish Ainge fought for better protections from the LAL Pick (like convey if 2-7, not just 2-5...)
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I'm not sure how this trade effects the Lakers. Even before the Melo trade, OKC was going to be heavily favored to beat up LA. If anything this might hurt the LA pick we have because the Knicks are that much worse.

What do the Lakers have to do with this? They were in that group regardless of the Melo trade.
You are the one that brought up the LA pick.

After today's trade, there are legitimately 7 teams that could really challenge the Nets for being the worst team in the league. Atlanta, Indiana, New York, Chicago, LAL, Sacramento, and Phoenix are all legit challengers to that "crown," and that's not even counting teams like the Magic that could very well be in competition for the last spot, too.

Somehow Danny saw the writing on the wall with this year's Nets pick. Let's just hope that the increased competition in the West will keep LA in that bottom five group.

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When DA let the pick go, I felt he wasn't into draft gambling anymore. The Brooklyn pick last year got him who he wanted and kept himself relevant with the lakers pick. The protections show its either an amazing pick or nothing at all. Banking on Brooklyn losses THEN banking on the player not being a bust seems like a focus Danny really doesn't need to take on at this point. You can't worry about future prospects and AD coming  for too long  when you got a big 3 and two potential stars to worry about.
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I see the 2 worst teams as clearly the Bulls and the Nets. All the others the OP listed either have way better coaching and cultures, or simply better rosters. But the Nets and Bulls will be terrible.
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It was evident long before Ainge made the trade that the Knicks were going to trade Melo and suck. It is fortunate that they traded him to the WC where OKC will hurt the Lakers a bit, instead of the EC where Melo could have continued to damage the Nets and Knicks and Hawks , and allow the Lakers to look ok in comparison.

Anyway, IF the Lakers pick doesn't convey this summer, it becomes a Kings 2019 pick, and the Kings are still going to suck next year.

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Not Really.

The problem here is that there's still a good chance Nets Pick conveys between 6-10 at worst, and in this upcoming, deep and LOADED draft (flush with big men), selecting in that range could still get you a star-caliber player.

But with LAL Pick, your only chance is if it conveys 2-5, and now you add NYK to the "tanking competition" and they could end up being worse than LAL. If this LAL pick does not convey, it will really suck for us, and the only 1st round pick we will have this upcoming season will likely be our own high-20 pick. Need this pick to convey for a possible Anthony Davis or Porzingis trade this summer too.

I predict Lakers will be 3rd worst in the league this upcoming season but now the Knicks could legitimately challenge them too. Teams like the Pacers, Hawks, are wild cards too in that department.

Man I wish Ainge fought for better protections from the LAL Pick (like convey if 2-7, not just 2-5...)
No if it doesn't covey it becomes a kings pick which is even better