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Re: Marcus trial
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2017, 08:04:53 PM »

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What is the likelihood of him being convicted? Jail time? And is an NBA suspension on the table? I think we need this guy's help at the 4, whether he's a felon or not.
right. what's an assault among friends? maybe our backup center won't have too many murder charges and he can get time off for good behavior. or maybe play with an ankle monitor a few minutes a night?

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I was brief in my post, but will clarify that I obviously don't condone criminal behavior.  And relatedly, the way domestic violence issues have been handled in the NFL (e.g., minimal repercussions) has been troubling.  I don't know enough about Marcus' case to have an opinion re: his guilt either way.

In general, I do think our frontcourt would struggle without Marcus this season.


The case is stronger against Marcus than Markieff. No idea how likely conviction is.

If he's guilty of a felony, it's a minimum 10 game suspension.

I think I read that the average sentence is around 2.5 years, but even with a conviction I'd expect probation.

That's very helpful, thanks Roy.  Hopefully the situation doesn't end badly.
The situation already ended badly with someone being assaulted.  Hopefully, justice is served and those guilty of the crime get convicted regardless of how it affects the team. 

Re: Marcus trial
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2017, 08:05:21 PM »

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20761820/marcus-morris-markieff-morris-aggravated-assault-trial-resumes-testimony-man-attacked

The Morris brothers were drafted back-to-back in the first round of the 2011 NBA draft.

The 6-foot-9 twins became teammates in 2013 when Marcus was traded to the Suns.

Hood stressed in court that he wasn't judging any of the defendants differently from each other.

Hood initially identified both Marcus and Markieff Morris as assailants, but he testified that he later changed his statement to police to say Markieff did not physically assault him but had been in the vicinity.

Defense attorneys pressed Hood on whether he had financial motives in the case, but Hood denied that was a factor.

Eckstein reviewed text messages that Hood had sent to multiple people indicating the Morris twins would have to pay him millions in financial damages for the case.

The Morris brothers face the possibility of prison time and discipline from the NBA, including a minimum 10-game suspension, if they are found guilty.

Marcus was traded to the Boston Celtics in July, and Markieff is now with the Washington Wizards.

The two-week trial also threatens to disrupt the start of their 2017 NBA season, with training camp set to begin for both players on Sept. 26.

Re: Marcus trial
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2017, 08:14:07 PM »

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If the Twins had few assets, this would be over.

I hope these two young men have learned a lesson from this. (aside from lawyers always go after the deepest pockets.)

Well yeah, they would have been tried already... Just like the other two attackers who are not involved in collegiate or professional sports.  They have already plead guilty and are awaiting sentencing. 

But again... this isn't "lawyers going after the deepest pockets" this is the state of Arizona prosecuting 5 men involved in a gang-beating where there were multiple eye witnesses to the events.

I believe the Morrises are arguing that if they didn't have money, they would never have been targeted with false accusations to begin with.  So it seems everything about the case does, in fact, have to do with money.

Again, this is a felony assault trial.  This is not one person accusing the Morris twins of damages in civil court.  This is a district attorney in Arizona deciding they have enough physical evidence, eye witnesses, and corroborating evidence to have a reasonable chance at a guilty verdict.  They're under no obligation to try a case that boils down to he said/she said, and it's unlikely they care about the twins financial status.   

Witnesses said the getaway car was a Rolls Royce Phantom... wouldn't the victim have gone after money from the owner of that car instead of the twins if they were innocent and he was just seeking an easy payday?

I get that it's a criminal trial.  But near as I can tell, the Prosecution contends that the Morrises orchestrated a surprise attack on the alleged victim in retaliation for a text that they didn't like over 3 years earlier.  Sure, it's possible, but that seems to be a very incomplete version of events at a minimum.  That the alleged victim is seeking 7 figures suggests that another motive may be at play, and it would be easier for him to win a civil trial after a successful criminal trial.

Re: Marcus trial
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2017, 08:48:48 PM »

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What is the likelihood of him being convicted? Jail time? And is an NBA suspension on the table? I think we need this guy's help at the 4, whether he's a felon or not.
right. what's an assault among friends? maybe our backup center won't have too many murder charges and he can get time off for good behavior. or maybe play with an ankle monitor a few minutes a night?

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I was brief in my post, but will clarify that I obviously don't condone criminal behavior.  And relatedly, the way domestic violence issues have been handled in the NFL (e.g., minimal repercussions) has been troubling.  I don't know enough about Marcus' case to have an opinion re: his guilt either way.

In general, I do think our frontcourt would struggle without Marcus this season.


The case is stronger against Marcus than Markieff. No idea how likely conviction is.

If he's guilty of a felony, it's a minimum 10 game suspension.

I think I read that the average sentence is around 2.5 years, but even with a conviction I'd expect probation.

That's very helpful, thanks Roy.  Hopefully the situation doesn't end badly.
The situation already ended badly with someone being assaulted.  Hopefully, justice is served and those guilty of the crime get convicted regardless of how it affects the team.

Disagree. I clearly believe athletes should be pardoned from criminal justice.
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Re: Marcus trial
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2017, 07:50:41 AM »

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Hood crying on stand that was a in the hood B-slap-Machiaveli would rank that as achieve mass

 The general theme of the Prince is the use of immoral acts for glory or survival
The acts of criminal virtue are best used in one swoop and are not necessary to use again and time heals these actions.
The way these boys saw it Hood was in their space including their mothers and they reacted
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It is  my opinion Hood is like a pimp praying on the dreams of kids and their parents.

How the justice system works or doesn't is up to the lawyers and the extent the system gets bent
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Re: Marcus trial
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2017, 08:05:51 AM »

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I don't believe that the Morris's are repeat offenders or sociopaths ,they are good teammates and have done considerable public service in the last two years.

I think Marcus is in reality a repeat offender. He had a prior assault that was eventually dismissed as part of a deferment agreement.

http://m.ljworld.com/news/2012/mar/02/second-victim-listed-altercation-involving-marcus-/?templates=mobile


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Re: Marcus trial
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2017, 08:49:13 AM »

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Here comes the judge----Sorry about that repeat offender part but he was 22 then-he got a ticket for that one got squashed
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