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Re: How to accept Kyrie's Wokeness
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2017, 03:42:31 PM »

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As long as his not hitting women or doing other illegal stuff then I could care less about this. Put the ball in the basket.
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Re: How to accept Kyrie's Wokeness
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2017, 03:49:22 PM »

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I actually like that he's a weirdo.  I hope he gets weirder.
TP to this.

But even if Kyrie is a little out-there,  I think more than anything he's a guy who just isn't comfortable in front of a camera talking to media people.

I've gone back and listened to some of Richard Jefferson and Channing Frye's podcast and Kyrie appears a bunch. The two episodes with him I've listened to, Kyrie is laid back, charming, and thoughtful. He's not stiff and and misusing ten cent words like he was on First Take or during his initial Celtic press conference.

Look, also, at the exchange he had with Brian Scalabrine right before an interview (where he asks if its ok to call Scal White Mamba). Kyrie seems cool to me. And after that, Scal has him in a comfortable place so when the camera starts rolling, Kyrie can sit and have a conversation and I think he came off well. But when he's having to stare down the barrel of a camera and talk to reporters, he looks really uncomfortable and tries too hard to be "professional" or something.

To me, that's a big piece of the puzzle when asking "Why would Kyrie leave a good situation?" I think the drama and media attention (both sports and entertainment) that Lebron James brings made him uncomfortable and he didn't want to deal with the circus anymore.

Boston will have its own media circus for Kyrie to deal with but it'll be local, not international.
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Re: How to accept Kyrie's Wokeness
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2017, 03:57:30 PM »

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What does woke actually mean? I only heard it used with respect to awareness of social issues.
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Re: How to accept Kyrie's Wokeness
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2017, 05:05:49 PM »

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What does woke actually mean? I only heard it used with respect to awareness of social issues.

That is what it means, being aware of social issues.   Though admittedly, I had to google it.

I could care less about Kyries wokeness as long as he plays well for our team.   

I think Wokeness depends on your perspective.   I judge people individually, which many Social Justice Warriors do not.   So it is not for me, for some I imagine,  it fills a void in their life. 
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Re: How to accept Kyrie's Wokeness
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2017, 05:28:44 PM »

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Dude thinks the earth is flat (might be trolling, but I can't tell) and recently stated that he doesn't have an ego. The guy is open to new ideas and has an interest in science and philosophy (Ie; uses internet) but he talks out of his ass as much as any other athlete. Everyone has an ego (I think he may have just misused the term, though). Kyrie is just a 25 year old, intelligent, hard working but pampered athlete. He's interesting and honest, but that doesn't mean he's correct about anything. I like him though- I'll be looking forward to every interview.
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Re: How to accept Kyrie's Wokeness
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2017, 05:32:35 PM »

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I actually like that he's a weirdo.  I hope he gets weirder.

It's been too long since we had a guy who gave totally off the wall interviews.  I've missed that since KG got traded.

I actually think he's a robot. The more I listen to him talk the more he says a lot of words without actually answering the question. Basically a politician. I bet he is a completely different person around people he actually trusts.

Re: How to accept Kyrie's Wokeness
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2017, 05:34:54 PM »

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I think a lot of it is that he's just playing public, namely the media, much like Rondo did.

I think a lot of it is calculated and not necessarily off the cuff.  He knows what he's doing (I think).

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Re: How to accept Kyrie's Wokeness
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2017, 05:38:10 PM »

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Dude thinks the earth is flat ...
I'm not sure.  He seems too intelligent to actually believe it.

In any case, I really don't care about the other stuff.  Let's see him on the court with the Celtics first.

Re: How to accept Kyrie's Wokeness
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2017, 08:25:44 PM »

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Re: How to accept Kyrie's Wokeness
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2017, 08:26:01 PM »

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Dude thinks the earth is flat ...
I'm not sure.  He seems too intelligent to actually believe it.

In any case, I really don't care about the other stuff.  Let's see him on the court with the Celtics first.

His media statements may be incoherent, but there's no way he actually believes the earth is flat. He was just trying to make some sort of deep statement. Incoherently.
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Re: How to accept Kyrie's Wokeness
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2017, 08:52:43 PM »

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Most of his perceived 'weirdness' stems from the fact that he takes extra time before he speaks. It' just his composure during interviews. I don't think he's uncomfortable at all. I think he's totally confident in his intellect and ability to respond to whatever someone might ask.

He also kind of sounds like therapist (psychology) when he talks. very soothing and calm, Which throws people off and does sound a little artificial when you hear it. But he can talk however he wants.

He's just willing to be the smartest person in the room if no one else is going to say anything smart.

Re: How to accept Kyrie's Wokeness
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2017, 08:55:11 PM »

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I actually like that he's a weirdo.  I hope he gets weirder.

It's been too long since we had a guy who gave totally off the wall interviews.  I've missed that since KG got traded.
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Re: How to accept Kyrie's Wokeness
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2017, 11:22:00 AM »

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I just listened to episode 7 of the Road Trippin' podcast, which is Richard Jefferson and Channing Frye's podcast. I think this is where all the flat-Earth stuff started.

And I gotta say... I don't think he was trolling. He seems to be legitimately think that the Earth is flat. He also seems to be convinced of some kind of conspiracy theory about Neil Armstrong never having actually walked on the moon and that there's a lot of shady business surrounding the JFK assassination.

So he's a conspiracy theory guy. He doesn't trust a lot of the information a lot of us assume is correct because we're told by some authority.

He also comes off to me as someone who generally cares about people, fwiw.
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Re: How to accept Kyrie's Wokeness
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2017, 11:30:15 AM »

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I just listened to episode 7 of the Road Trippin' podcast, which is Richard Jefferson and Channing Frye's podcast. I think this is where all the flat-Earth stuff started.

And I gotta say... I don't think he was trolling. He seems to be legitimately think that the Earth is flat. He also seems to be convinced of some kind of conspiracy theory about Neil Armstrong never having actually walked on the moon and that there's a lot of shady business surrounding the JFK assassination.

So he's a conspiracy theory guy. He doesn't trust a lot of the information a lot of us assume is correct because we're told by some authority.

He also comes off to me as someone who generally cares about people, fwiw.

I watched that video too, and I got to say...

He's an masterful troller.

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When Irving popped up on The Road Trippin’ podcast with Richard Jefferson and Channing Frye during the All-Star break, he broke social media with his belief of a flat Earth versus a round one. His stance went viral in a matter of moments, giving the 25-year-old more off-court attention than he’d gotten in the past.

It sounds like that was the whole point.

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That's why the whole 'flat Earth' thing happened. Kyrie said something dumb on a podcast, and suddenly everyone cared

Kyrie Irving's issue has always been the shadow of LBJ. Lebron eclipsed over everything Kyrie Irving did. Hell, even an reporter asked a numbingly dumb question, "how does Lebron fit the role of parental guidance, or being a father figure?"
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Re: How to accept Kyrie's Wokeness
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2017, 11:44:55 AM »

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I actually like that he's a weirdo.  I hope he gets weirder.

It's been too long since we had a guy who gave totally off the wall interviews.  I've missed that since KG got traded.

Yeah as long as it doesn't affect his play it's kinda neat to have the Jaden Smith of point guards. Definitely better than boring boilerplate answers for everything. Kinda like Rondo except the deadpan sarcasm sometimes isn't sarcasm.